January Transfer Window 2025

[Roboze]

2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

TBH I’m actually alright with the business we’ve done. Welly looks a tidy player, Gronbaek is a risk free loan, we’ve sent the useless Cornet back, loaned BBD out for Championship game time and got a half decent cheque for Sam Amo. Nothing we did was really going to make a difference; we’ll beat Derby’s total fairly comfortably but still be solidly on the bottom of the table come May.

yeah but a striker, even reasonably decent off cast, might of given us fans something to cling on to, maybe pull off a great escape? but an all out surrender is pretty piss poor, but i guess its business now not a game anymore.

Edited Monday at 22:15 by Roboze

[OneMrsWallace]

Unsurprisingly shit transfer window, in a shit season. Not that I really give a shit given all the shit we've had to take. What a load of shit. Have I said shit enough? 

[benjii]

1 minute ago, OneMrsWallace said:

Unsurprisingly shit transfer window, in a shit season. Not that I really give a shit given all the shit we've had to take. What a load of shit. Have I said shit enough? 

I'll be home soon. 

Luv Greggg.

[VectisSaint]

22 minutes ago, WinglessWonder said:

Brilliant insight from the guy outside Staplewood on SS News just now, commenting that Bazunu hasn't played a single minute for the first team this season. 

No mention of the serious injury that has kept him out for the best part of a year.... 🙄

or indeed of the fact that he was not registered with the PL.

[CSA96]

Really struggle to be bothered by no deadline business today. My one concern was that the club would panic and spend more money rashly to try and appease people. This season is done. Sit on the money, make some hires, spend in the summer. We are down, have been for many weeks

Also let's be honest: anyone we signed would've been quite a way down our list of preferences for the position, and would only be coming here after holding out for as long as they possibly could to see if they can get anything better than playing for a team that's already relegated at the midway point

I'd rather see what we have with Welington and Grønbæk (perhaps it's nothing), bank the money and spend from a position of strength in the summer window when we are one of the most attractive offers in the league, plus have clarity on the manager and sporting director roles

I don't get the point in spending from a position of weakness right now, getting people that we are punting on for the sake of it - but don't really want - and then in six months time we're in the Championship anyway with even more **** to unload and more people sitting there on long-term contracts. We made that mistake in the 2022/23 season (more understandable as we were in touching distance and it was first full season of ownership). But that said, I am very happy to not see it repeating

I also don't think Juric will be here next season. Let's face it, if you are hiring a Sporting Director to come in and overhaul things, rebuild the squad and off-field operations then they aren't going to be tied to a rebuild and not be allowed to hire their own coach. So I'm pretty sure he sails off into the distance in the summer, with an extra year's money in his account, and is never seen in these parts ever again. Which was probably always the arrangement, with the insurance of 'if you do somehow get this thing clicking, then we'll keep you on and up your salary'

Roll on next season. Solak has moved Ankersen and Kraft to more peripheral roles now where they are not actively in the day-to-day, so let's just hope that Dragan picks a couple of good operators now and they can take things forward from the end of May

[FarehamSaintJames]

Wasn’t bothered by the window when it opened, haven’t been bothered all month. 

More than happy with some of our outgoings, could have happily seen more leave.

Anyone that expected us to buy a brand new team and spend £200m is delusional. 
Equally any player stupid enough to want to sign permanently given our position I’d be questioning their sanity.

[Lighthouse]

4 minutes ago, Roboze said:

yeah but a striker, even reasonably decent off cast, might of given us fans something to cling on to, maybe pull off a great escape? but an all out surrender is pretty piss poor, but i guess its business now not a game anymore.

What are you actually asking for there? A half-decent PL goal scorer who, for some unknown reason, another club is willing to loan out mid-season. We sure as hell aren’t getting one on a permanent deal because they’d probably cost over £30m and they’d never come here anyway, knowing we’re going down. Even if, by some miracle, we signed a striker who went on to score 10 PL goals for us, it still wouldn’t keep us up. We need 25-30 points from 14 games.

[benjii]

3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

What are you actually asking for there? A half-decent PL goal scorer who, for some unknown reason, another club is willing to loan out mid-season. We sure as hell aren’t getting one on a permanent deal because they’d probably cost over £30m and they’d never come here anyway, knowing we’re going down. Even if, by some miracle, we signed a striker who went on to score 10 PL goals for us, it still wouldn’t keep us up. We need 25-30 points from 14 games.

Au contraire! Another 23 points may be enough!

E, a-on-dit, peezy. 

[Roboze]

2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

What are you actually asking for there? A half-decent PL goal scorer who, for some unknown reason, another club is willing to loan out mid-season. We sure as hell aren’t getting one on a permanent deal because they’d probably cost over £30m and they’d never come here anyway, knowing we’re going down. Even if, by some miracle, we signed a striker who went on to score 10 PL goals for us, it still wouldn’t keep us up. We need 25-30 points from 14 games.

just dreaming really.... but Boro signing someone like Iheanacho, personally i would of been jumping at that! but probably why im not a manager, just a fan, as everyone here is.

[Dusic]

Biggest thing by far is to get the DoF position sorted and have some essence of a plan going into the summer. 

Really no excuse given they have been able to plan virtually a year ahead for next season!

[OneMrsWallace]

15 minutes ago, benjii said:

I'll be home soon. 

Luv Greggg.

I've changed the locks.

[EBS1980]

I’m surprised after ending the Cornet loan we didn’t then get another in - no idea who but given we are bottom I’m sure there are plenty who would be an improvement lol

also surprised their only backing of the manager was a loan deal. 
 

[Miltonaggro]

Still time lads, even with the window receding…

 

[Chez]

first team squad has 31 players still (not including Edozie, Edwards, Charles and BBD). Larios and Stewart both injured, so no way we could offload them, but nine senior players don't even make the squad every week. If Baz goes out on loan, that will be 8 twiddling their thumbs, but a shame we could not shift ABK and perhaps Taylor, Fraser... 

[Fabrice29]

22 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Really struggle to be bothered by no deadline business today. My one concern was that the club would panic and spend more money rashly to try and appease people. This season is done. Sit on the money, make some hires, spend in the summer. We are down, have been for many weeks

Also let's be honest: anyone we signed would've been quite a way down our list of preferences for the position, and would only be coming here after holding out for as long as they possibly could to see if they can get anything better than playing for a team that's already relegated at the midway point

I'd rather see what we have with Welington and Grønbæk (perhaps it's nothing), bank the money and spend from a position of strength in the summer window when we are one of the most attractive offers in the league, plus have clarity on the manager and sporting director roles

I don't get the point in spending from a position of weakness right now, getting people that we are punting on for the sake of it - but don't really want - and then in six months time we're in the Championship anyway with even more **** to unload and more people sitting there on long-term contracts. We made that mistake in the 2022/23 season (more understandable as we were in touching distance and it was first full season of ownership). But that said, I am very happy to not see it repeating

I also don't think Juric will be here next season. Let's face it, if you are hiring a Sporting Director to come in and overhaul things, rebuild the squad and off-field operations then they aren't going to be tied to a rebuild and not be allowed to hire their own coach. So I'm pretty sure he sails off into the distance in the summer, with an extra year's money in his account, and is never seen in these parts ever again. Which was probably always the arrangement, with the insurance of 'if you do somehow get this thing clicking, then we'll keep you on and up your salary'

Roll on next season. Solak has moved Ankersen and Kraft to more peripheral roles now where they are not actively in the day-to-day, so let's just hope that Dragan picks a couple of good operators now and they can take things forward from the end of May

Again, preparing for May when we are here in February with 3 months of football to go through is crazy and the apathy will only manifest itself on the pitch more and more. 

[Suhari]

What!? No deal sheets?

[Miltonaggro]

Bazunu loan to standard leige. 

[davefizzy14]

Good luck to Gavin Bazunu who has gone out on loan for the rest of the season. Just been confirmed 👍

[SuperSAINT]

 

[Fabrice29]

John Percy stating Armstrong might still leave for WBA on loan so we could end up even weaker in attack but at least we're preparing for next season  

Edited Monday at 22:54 by Fabrice29

[Matthew Le God]

 

 

[trousers]

I'm hearing Armstrong to WBA, but don't quote me on it

[Saint Scott]

 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

John Percy stating Armstrong might still leave for WBA on loan so we could end up even weaker in attack but at least we're preparing for next season  

Armstrong leaving makes us weaker? Seriously?

[Disco Stu]

Anyone heard anything about a potential Adam Armstrong departure?

[aintforever]

Can’t see the point in that.

[Roboze]

if its a loan till the end of the season, cant see a problem, hes not going to help us now, but the boy can score in the champs! so let him build some confidence

[Harry_SFC]

Couldn't care less about Armstrong going tbh.

[Appy]

Good move for Armstrong, keep him ticking over at the level he’s useful at for a few months, rather than his confidence continuing to take a battering here. 

[Fabrice29]

Just now, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Armstrong leaving makes us weaker? Seriously?

I think he's crap at this level thats quite obvious but if we're not replacing him then yes. He's the only one of our attack I have seen score goals for us on a regular basis.

[Chez]

3 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Can’t see the point in that.

if he isn't going to get a game here, someone else paying his wages is no bad thing, right? 

[Appy]

Just now, Fabrice29 said:

I think he's crap at this level thats quite obvious but if we're not replacing him then yes. He's the only one of our attack I have seen score goals for us on a regular basis.

In the Premier League he’s not scored on a regular basis from a massive sample size, it’s no loss at all. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Just now, Fabrice29 said:

I think he's crap at this level thats quite obvious but if we're not replacing him then yes. He's the only one of our attack I have seen score goals for us on a regular basis.

A regular basis last season you mean? In the Championship

[Colinjb]

I see nothing wrong with sending Arma back to a level he can compete at. Let him gain some momentum ahead of him being useful again next season.

[Fabrice29]

1 minute ago, Appy said:

Good move for Armstrong, keep him ticking over at the level he’s useful at for a few months, rather than his confidence continuing to take a battering here. 

Sorry but this attitude is bizarre, it kind of works for youngsters but telling Armstrong "sorry mate, not good enough at this level so we'll call you again next season" is only going to piss him off. If he's not good enough then lets be ruthless and not want him back next season too. I have no issue with him leaving but not replacing him and then calling him back next season seems stupid.

[RedArmy]

A bit of forward thinking from the club for once! 
 

Get Armstrong back banging in goals so he’s ready to hit the ground running next season. 

[Saint Scott]

 

[Chez]

What happened with Charlie Taylor? Did he ever decide against a move to Hull or Watford?

[ErwinK1961]

BBD - loaned out 

Edwards - loaned out

Downes - sulking, pining, linked with move away but staying for now

Cornet - loan cancelled

Archer - not playing, linked with move away but staying for now

Taylor - not playing, linked with move away but no one seemingly that interested 

Arma - new contract in summer, now being loaned out

Lallana - can barely play 10mins

Fraser - barely makes a squad

Sugawara - pretty crap

SAA - promising youngster sold

What a disaster. 

 

 

[Appy]

1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

Sorry but this attitude is bizarre, it kind of works for youngsters but telling Armstrong "sorry mate, not good enough at this level so we'll call you again next season" is only going to piss him off. If he's not good enough then lets be ruthless and not want him back next season too. I have no issue with him leaving but not replacing him and then calling him back next season seems stupid.

Replace someone who isn’t getting near our best side? Why? 
 

Couldn’t care less if it’s pissed him off, it’s professional football, don’t be so wet. 

[Saint_clark]

8 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Can’t see the point in that.

Bit of money, bit of savings on his wages, he bangs in goals for the rest of the season getting his confidence sky high ready for next season when we need him again in the championship. 

We'll also get a better price for him if he's been scoring for 18 months solid in the championship, if we go up next season and sell him on (Christ I hope we don't keep him again). 

[Chez]

1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

Sorry but this attitude is bizarre, it kind of works for youngsters but telling Armstrong "sorry mate, not good enough at this level so we'll call you again next season" is only going to piss him off. If he's not good enough then lets be ruthless and not want him back next season too. I have no issue with him leaving but not replacing him and then calling him back next season seems stupid.

Maybe we don't want him back next season too, but him departing depends on there being a buyer.

[Eric The Red]

3 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

BBD - loaned out 

Edwards - loaned out

Downes - sulking, pining, linked with move away but staying for now

Cornet - loan cancelled

Archer - not playing, linked with move away but staying for now

Taylor - not playing, linked with move away but no one seemingly that interested 

Arma - new contract in summer, now being loaned out

Lallana - can barely play 10mins

Fraser - barely makes a squad

Sugawara - pretty crap

SAA - promising youngster sold

What a disaster. 

 

 

No, the disaster is 9 points from 24 games is a disaster

[Fabrice29]

1 minute ago, Appy said:

Replace someone who isn’t getting near our best side? Why? 
 

Couldn’t care less if it’s pissed him off, it’s professional football, don’t be so wet. 

The players we have at the moment have proven they cant score goals at this level, in some cases over two seasons, so yeah I want them to be replaced, sorry to be so wet about that. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

The players we have at the moment have proven they cant score goals at this level, in some cases over two seasons, so yeah I want them to be replaced, sorry to be so wet about that. 

We are going down anyway, it really doesn't matter anymore

[Fabrice29]

1 minute ago, Chez said:

Maybe we don't want him back next season too, but him departing depends on there being a buyer.

Hopefully. A clean break from a lot of our players is needed, including him. There will be buyers and not least because Armstrong himself will push for it if he feels more valued elsewhere. He's had two cracks at the PL now, anyone suggesting we'll be able to motivate him this summer to fire us back up to the PL only for him to be replaced again feels deluded.

[ErwinK1961]

3 minutes ago, Eric The Red said:

No, the disaster is 9 points from 24 games is a disaster

Of course, and the recruitment has massively contributed to that.

[Fabrice29]

Just now, Lee On Solent Saint said:

We are going down anyway, it really doesn't matter anymore

Again, this is an insane thing to say mainly because it isn't true. There's 3 months of football to sit through yet and you will watching those as if they matter.

[HarvSFC]

I'm stuck in two minds. On the one hand, it was sensible not to go out panic spending after the clusterfuck of the January two years ago. On the other hand, the passivity of those at board level at the club this entire season has been a bit concerning. From Russell Martin getting more time than any other club would allow (After a 4th placed finish), only now getting in a serious director of football and still no set-piece coach, to today.

On the first point. It's probably for the best. Our alternatives to O'Riley, Delap, Carvalho and Clarke in the summer all turned out to be crap apart from Fernandes. But, then it also feels wrong to accept we're better off signing nobody, because SR would more than likely get it wrong again.

Juric clearly wanted another centre-back with Sylla, similarly to when Hasenhuttl wanted a striker, but we didn't have anybody else in mind after the Gakpo and Ramos deals fell through. It's also a bit strange that we have two remaining loan spots available, one of those being a Premier League loan and we haven't utilised them, especially as it was very clear that Cornet would be heading off this window.

On the departure front. I'm still a bit annoyed regarding the sale of SAA. He barely got a chance here, but when he did, he at least seemed to create something as opposed to our other players who can't do much with the ball apart from look for the safe square pass.

One of the very few positives of signing Brereton-Diaz and Archer in the summer was that it setup a proven Championship goalscoring front line. One of those has gone and doesn't look to be coming back, the other knows that Leeds want him after barely getting a look in recently and now Adam Armstrong looks to be heading out too. Hopefully he'll come back in the summer and it hasn't pissed him off, he'll fire us to promotion again and then we can sell him.

But, yeah. Just thinking about the summer. New contracts to Martin, McCarthy, Bednarek and Armstrong. Three of those are now contributing nothing here and the other should be our third choice centre-back, if we had any idea about recruiting players. And contracts to Lallana, Taylor, Edwards, Wood, Sugawara, BBD, Archer and Fraser, who are all also not contributing anything. Disgraceful and big changes still needed across the board.

Good, early signings needed in the summer to show the club did have a plan regarding the lack of activity this window.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Just now, Fabrice29 said:

Again, this is an insane thing to say mainly because it isn't true. There's 3 months of football to sit through yet and you will watching those as if they matter.

Um,no. I stopped thinking it mattered after your fuckin hero Martin wasn't sacked after the Bournemouth game.