Saint_clark Posted Sunday at 21:33 Posted Sunday at 21:33 32 minutes ago, Costa del Solent said: Yes, I said as much to matey sat next to me. ‘That looks like a goodbye, no?’ Would make sense. We've accepted relegation now, get some money in for him, possibly consider selling Dibling if he's not going to extend his contract and we can get a bit more now than in the summer, hold all the money back for summer transfer budget. 1
hypochondriac Posted Sunday at 22:19 Posted Sunday at 22:19 45 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Would make sense. We've accepted relegation now, get some money in for him, possibly consider selling Dibling if he's not going to extend his contract and we can get a bit more now than in the summer, hold all the money back for summer transfer budget. Yes please.
Lighthouse Posted Sunday at 22:29 Posted Sunday at 22:29 I make it 37 first team players we’ve got on the books right now. It’s a ridiculous number, personally I’d say we need to offload 15 before we bring in about 5 in summer.
woodsaint1 Posted Sunday at 22:32 Posted Sunday at 22:32 50 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Would make sense. We've accepted relegation now, get some money in for him, possibly consider selling Dibling if he's not going to extend his contract and we can get a bit more now than in the summer, hold all the money back for summer transfer budget. Think most fans would support that approach, problem is Juric will be pushing for the Board to back him in this window. Hes effectively interviewing the rest of this season for the job next season, and will be telling them that he cant show his worth unless he has a few players that suit his system/style of play
hypochondriac Posted Sunday at 23:26 Posted Sunday at 23:26 52 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I make it 37 first team players we’ve got on the books right now. It’s a ridiculous number, personally I’d say we need to offload 15 before we bring in about 5 in summer. Kwp Ramsdale Larios Aribo Sulemana Fraser Dibling Onuachu Taylor Fernandes ABK Lallana Ugochukwu I got to thirteen. You could add THB and maybe THB fo to get to fifteen.
Saint_clark Posted Sunday at 23:29 Posted Sunday at 23:29 55 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: Think most fans would support that approach, problem is Juric will be pushing for the Board to back him in this window. Hes effectively interviewing the rest of this season for the job next season, and will be telling them that he cant show his worth unless he has a few players that suit his system/style of play True, but if we appointed Juric in the summer we'd be happy with that so we should be sticking with him now regardless. There's already been some positive adjustments to the team/style of play and we'll probably see a few more before the end of the season. 2
Saint_clark Posted Sunday at 23:29 Posted Sunday at 23:29 (edited) 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I got to thirteen. You could add THB and maybe THB fo to get to fifteen. Hell, you could add THB, THB and THB and get to 18. Edited Sunday at 23:30 by Saint_clark 9
ApprenticeBillionaire Posted Sunday at 23:31 Posted Sunday at 23:31 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Kwp Ramsdale Larios Aribo Sulemana Fraser Dibling Onuachu Taylor Fernandes ABK Lallana Ugochukwu I got to thirteen. You could add THB and maybe THB fo to get to fifteen. Yes. Let's keep Ross Stewart hanging around just for fun.
Lighthouse Posted Monday at 00:01 Posted Monday at 00:01 35 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Kwp Ramsdale Larios Aribo Sulemana Fraser Dibling Onuachu Taylor Fernandes ABK Lallana Ugochukwu I got to thirteen. You could add THB and maybe THB fo to get to fifteen. Gronbaek may or may not stay and I’d like to see the back of Suga and Smallbone, should the chance arise. Stewart will be hard to shift but someone may take him on loan, especially if we still have Archer, BBD and Armstrong. Wouldn’t be upset to see Stephens p*ss off either but that’s probably wishful thinking. 3
hypochondriac Posted Monday at 08:08 Posted Monday at 08:08 8 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Gronbaek may or may not stay and I’d like to see the back of Suga and Smallbone, should the chance arise. Stewart will be hard to shift but someone may take him on loan, especially if we still have Archer, BBD and Armstrong. Wouldn’t be upset to see Stephens p*ss off either but that’s probably wishful thinking. True. Can't see us getting rid of Smallbone not that I'd be upset if we did.
badgerx16 Posted Monday at 08:24 Posted Monday at 08:24 8 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Wouldn’t be upset to see Stephens p*ss off either but that’s probably wishful thinking. That probably depends on where Russell Martin finds a new job. 4
beatlesaint Posted Monday at 09:34 Posted Monday at 09:34 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: That probably depends on where Russell Martin finds a new job. Thats a given. "Come here with me Jack, I'll make you captain, we can enjoy many more beautiful moments together, you are an exceptional human being" blah blah fkin blah!! 1 3
goodymatt Posted Monday at 14:33 Posted Monday at 14:33 I read we want €13m but would accept €10m. Might as well keep him until the summer at £2.5m! 2
Harry_SFC Posted Monday at 14:55 Posted Monday at 14:55 21 minutes ago, goodymatt said: I read we want €13m but would accept €10m. Might as well keep him until the summer at £2.5m! Yeah no way would we bother with that. £5 million would be fair enough IMO. 1
Saint Scott Posted Monday at 15:40 Posted Monday at 15:40 1 hour ago, goodymatt said: I read we want €13m but would accept €10m. Might as well keep him until the summer at £2.5m! Onuachu mark 2. These Turkish clubs low ball offers are ridiculous. Personally, I think KWP would be silly heading out there. Zaha had a torrid time 4
SNSUN Posted Monday at 16:01 Posted Monday at 16:01 I would have no problem with KWP leaving this window, one of the few players that could be leave with his head held high from our current squad. Makes sense for us to get some money for him, even if the other full back options aren't as good, it doesn't look like we'll be winning games anyway with or without him! I'll miss him though, probably my favourite player and he's been a good servant. 6
disconnect Posted Monday at 16:18 Posted Monday at 16:18 35 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Onuachu mark 2. These Turkish clubs low ball offers are ridiculous. Personally, I think KWP would be silly heading out there. Zaha had a torrid time LOL at Wilfred "Ego" Zaha going to Galatasaray and being very average, then being loaned to Lyon and only starting 1 game in half a season, and now at the mighty Charlotte FC...! 🤣 Fees to the Turkish leagues are so bad. No way we'd sell him for 3 million Euros now, and he knows he can do much better come the summer.
SaintNewForest Posted Monday at 17:31 Posted Monday at 17:31 17 hours ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said: Yes. Let's keep Ross Stewart hanging around just for fun. Well, we can't just get rid of him; no-one is likely to come in for him, and we have a contract to honour.
Turkish Posted Monday at 17:31 Posted Monday at 17:31 Just now, SaintNewForest said: Well, we can't just get rid of him; no-one is likely to come in for him, and we have a contract to honour. he has one year left at the end of this season right?
Matthew Le God Posted Monday at 17:47 Posted Monday at 17:47 15 minutes ago, Turkish said: he has one year left at the end of this season right? Correct 1
Fabrice29 Posted Monday at 17:49 Posted Monday at 17:49 1 hour ago, disconnect said: LOL at Wilfred "Ego" Zaha going to Galatasaray and being very average, then being loaned to Lyon and only starting 1 game in half a season, and now at the mighty Charlotte FC...! 🤣 Fees to the Turkish leagues are so bad. No way we'd sell him for 3 million Euros now, and he knows he can do much better come the summer. What does he knows he can do much better look like in your eyes out of interest? Galatasary have European and maybe CL football next year and a possible league win this year. Where would KWP end up in this country do we think and how does it compare? 1
Lee On Solent Saint Posted Monday at 18:04 Posted Monday at 18:04 11 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: What does he knows he can do much better look like in your eyes out of interest? Galatasary have European and maybe CL football next year and a possible league win this year. Where would KWP end up in this country do we think and how does it compare? All depends if he is prepared to move aboard I guess, I can't imagine them being able to pay the sort of wages he could get by staying in the PL.
Obstacle1 Posted Monday at 18:09 Posted Monday at 18:09 3 hours ago, goodymatt said: I read we want €13m but would accept €10m. Might as well keep him until the summer at £2.5m! Fucking hell that's cheap. 10m is still very good value for a player of his quality 2
Matthew Le God Posted Monday at 18:11 Posted Monday at 18:11 Just now, Obstacle1 said: Fucking hell that's cheap. 10m is still very good value for a player of his quality Hard to see any club seeing value in spending €10m on a player they can sign without paying a transfer fee for in the summer. 1
Fabrice29 Posted Monday at 18:20 Posted Monday at 18:20 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: All depends if he is prepared to move aboard I guess, I can't imagine them being able to pay the sort of wages he could get by staying in the PL. isn’t there some sort of tax perks out there? That will help but yes I agree if wages are your over riding desire then here probably is better, maybe slight hopes of an England recall too, but it’s slight and if Europe and/or winning something is a motivation then Galatasary would be tempting. Edited Monday at 18:21 by Fabrice29
Pamplemousse Posted Monday at 18:37 Posted Monday at 18:37 24 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Hard to see any club seeing value in spending €10m on a player they can sign without paying a transfer fee for in the summer. If a club is desperate, as teams often are in January, for a particular position, then they may feel it is worth it. Especially as many more teams will be in the running in the summer. 3
benjii Posted Monday at 18:40 Posted Monday at 18:40 Why do people want to sell Smallbone? He's a very effective Championship midfielder, will be on relatively low wages and won't attract interest from PL teams. He's exactly the sort of player we should keep. 11 5
Gloucester Saint Posted Monday at 19:01 Posted Monday at 19:01 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Correct Phew, thought it was two.
Gloucester Saint Posted Monday at 19:03 Posted Monday at 19:03 21 minutes ago, benjii said: Why do people want to sell Smallbone? He's a very effective Championship midfielder, will be on relatively low wages and won't attract interest from PL teams. He's exactly the sort of player we should keep. As long as he gets on the protein shakes and adds some bulk, I agree. In a midfield three he was excellent last season but far too lightweight in a two. 2
Dusic Posted Monday at 19:14 Posted Monday at 19:14 (edited) 34 minutes ago, benjii said: Why do people want to sell Smallbone? He's a very effective Championship midfielder, will be on relatively low wages and won't attract interest from PL teams. He's exactly the sort of player we should keep. Yeah I don't understand the hate for him at all. Was largely very good in a promotion winning side, including getting the key goal in the playoff semi final, plus an assist in the final. Our struggles this season have barely involved him. Seems like a good lad and one with an affinity to the club. Will be one we can rely on next season. Madness to be wanting rid of someone like him! Edited Monday at 19:16 by Dusic 12
Harry_SFC Posted Monday at 19:36 Posted Monday at 19:36 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Dusic said: Yeah I don't understand the hate for him at all. Was largely very good in a promotion winning side, including getting the key goal in the playoff semi final, plus an assist in the final. Our struggles this season have barely involved him. Seems like a good lad and one with an affinity to the club. Will be one we can rely on next season. Madness to be wanting rid of someone like him! He's a decent player on the ball but off it he is a complete liability. Just not mobile or strong enough. Edited Monday at 19:37 by Harry_SFC 4
Miltonaggro Posted Monday at 19:42 Posted Monday at 19:42 On 24/01/2025 at 17:24, Badger said: Wouldn't it be preferable if Red Bull just bought our club ? Christ, yes! 3
DT Posted Monday at 20:14 Posted Monday at 20:14 I’m glad the club is moving heaven and earth to add players in key positions to make us a good bet for coming up and at least to give it a go in the remaining Prem games to see us clear of Derby’s calamity. We’re not? Oh. That’s odd.
Rebel Posted Monday at 20:18 Posted Monday at 20:18 If your KWP you are going to wait for the summer transfer window - join another premier league club on a free, get a massive signing on bonus and much higher wages than you are on now. The time to sell him was 2 summer ago - or at least last summer j - but I think in both cases we wouldn't accept the low values other clubs put on him. The problem is at the premier league level he is just not good enough defensively - either positionally or physically. 1
Chez Posted Monday at 20:32 Posted Monday at 20:32 41 minutes ago, Dusic said: Yeah I don't understand the hate for him at all. Was largely very good in a promotion winning side, including getting the key goal in the playoff semi final, plus an assist in the final. Our struggles this season have barely involved him. Seems like a good lad and one with an affinity to the club. Will be one we can rely on next season. Madness to be wanting rid of someone like him! Likewise. The abuse he took on here after the United loss (and since) was too harsh IMO. He came on in that game and we went backwards, and of course we lost, but the defeat wasn't his fault. There is a lot of frustration on here, I understand that, but he's only played 283 minutes out of a possible 2070 due to injury. Our issues and measly 6 point tally are not all on him. That said, I'm not a big fan. He has a good touch and his weight of pass is excellent, but there are holes in his game. There are question marks how he fits into a midfield that isn't managed by RM. 1
Chez Posted Monday at 20:48 Posted Monday at 20:48 13 minutes ago, Rebel said: If your KWP you are going to wait for the summer transfer window - join another premier league club on a free, get a massive signing on bonus and much higher wages than you are on now. The time to sell him was 2 summer ago - or at least last summer j - but I think in both cases we wouldn't accept the low values other clubs put on him. The problem is at the premier league level he is just not good enough defensively - either positionally or physically. He was garbage in the relegation season and that must have had an impact on the size of the bids we got that summer. He's been much better this season, carrying over the great form he showed last season, but he lacks genuine pace and it gets exposed now and then at this level. Overall though he has been bloody great us and we will miss him when he departs. 3
Midfield_General Posted Monday at 21:08 Posted Monday at 21:08 21 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Kwp Ramsdale Larios Aribo Sulemana Fraser Dibling Onuachu Taylor Fernandes ABK Lallana Ugochukwu I got to thirteen. You could add THB and maybe THB fo to get to fifteen. KWP, Ramsdale, Dibling and Fernandes would be the only ones I'd be even slightly sorry to see go, and at this point I don't even care that much about them. Never felt less connected to the squad of players or the club in general. Fuck 'em all. Think it might time to hibernate until the summer, then maybe I'll wake up and it will all have been an unpleasant dream. 1
bugenhagen Posted Monday at 21:34 Posted Monday at 21:34 3 hours ago, Turkish said: he has one year left at the end of this season right? That can't be right... Hasn't he just been here for, like, two weeks?
hypochondriac Posted Monday at 21:52 Posted Monday at 21:52 43 minutes ago, Midfield_General said: KWP, Ramsdale, Dibling and Fernandes would be the only ones I'd be even slightly sorry to see go, and at this point I don't even care that much about them. Never felt less connected to the squad of players or the club in general. Fuck 'em all. Think it might time to hibernate until the summer, then maybe I'll wake up and it will all have been an unpleasant dream. I don't know. I'd say the last relegation I disliked the players slightly more other than JWP and KWP. A lot of them can't help being shit, I don't think they're not trying in the main. Some of them are just painfully limited and have been asked to play a brand of football that was never going to work in the prem. 4
Turkish Posted Monday at 21:59 Posted Monday at 21:59 24 minutes ago, bugenhagen said: That can't be right... Hasn't he just been here for, like, two weeks? No that’s when he’s going to be fit again 1
Lighthouse Posted Monday at 22:12 Posted Monday at 22:12 2 hours ago, Dusic said: Yeah I don't understand the hate for him at all. Was largely very good in a promotion winning side, including getting the key goal in the playoff semi final, plus an assist in the final. Our struggles this season have barely involved him. Seems like a good lad and one with an affinity to the club. Will be one we can rely on next season. Madness to be wanting rid of someone like him! Fair enough I guess. I think my memories of him last year are somewhat distorted by how abysmal he is in the PL.
HarvSFC Posted Monday at 23:06 Posted Monday at 23:06 I judge Smallbone on previous midfields. Not the Schneiderlin, Wanyama, Davis era. But, the Schneiderlin, Cork, Hammond and Chaplow one that got us the autos. They're all slightly different midfielders to Smallbone and in some areas they're weaker, while in others they're stronger. But, I don't think Smallbone gets a game in that midfield and that's what we need to be looking for again, rather than settling on what we already have. Next season we already have Downes and Charles, who I would prefer in our midfield. Smallbone will never make it at this level either, because he can't play on the turn and physically he is too frail. His best spell last season came in the play-offs and I thank him for that. But, McCarthy had a similarly good spell in the play-offs. 2
woodsaint1 Posted Tuesday at 00:36 Posted Tuesday at 00:36 4 hours ago, DT said: I’m glad the club is moving heaven and earth to add players in key positions to make us a good bet for coming up and at least to give it a go in the remaining Prem games to see us clear of Derby’s calamity. We’re not? Oh. That’s odd. Tbf the main leagues should just bin the January transfer window. It used to be exciting many years ago but now clubs are reluctant to sell unless they have a replacement lined up and prices are sky high compared to the summer window. You just end up blowing the heap on the likes of Tall Paul, Sully and Orsic. If there is somebody that Juric badly wants and its possible, then yes lets make the effort. Otherwise save the £ for the summer
benjii Posted Tuesday at 04:58 Posted Tuesday at 04:58 9 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: As long as he gets on the protein shakes and adds some bulk, I agree. In a midfield three he was excellent last season but far too lightweight in a two. Agreed. I suppose it does depend to some extent on how we approach matches. What we really, really need in the squad is a combative, defensive minded, midfielder with pace. 3
benjii Posted Tuesday at 05:01 Posted Tuesday at 05:01 5 hours ago, HarvSFC said: I judge Smallbone on previous midfields. Not the Schneiderlin, Wanyama, Davis era. But, the Schneiderlin, Cork, Hammond and Chaplow one that got us the autos. They're all slightly different midfielders to Smallbone and in some areas they're weaker, while in others they're stronger. But, I don't think Smallbone gets a game in that midfield and that's what we need to be looking for again, rather than settling on what we already have. Next season we already have Downes and Charles, who I would prefer in our midfield. Smallbone will never make it at this level either, because he can't play on the turn and physically he is too frail. His best spell last season came in the play-offs and I thank him for that. But, McCarthy had a similarly good spell in the play-offs. Downes, Charles, Smallbone plus a Fernandes replacement and a grizzly old hacker. Sorted!
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted Tuesday at 07:07 Posted Tuesday at 07:07 So if Spurs have held talks about Dibling, I wonder what price has been discussed. Bet it is a lot less than the £50m numbers touted on this site. There again, I did bet on us staying up and just cashed out for a 98% loss!
Weston Super Saint Posted Tuesday at 07:08 Posted Tuesday at 07:08 Just now, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said: So if Spurs have held talks about Dibling, I wonder what price has been discussed. Bet it is a lot less than the £50m numbers touted on this site. There again, I did bet on us staying up and just cashed out for a 98% loss! You are one optimistic person waiting this long to cash out! 2
Barsiem Posted Tuesday at 07:33 Posted Tuesday at 07:33 I'd be amazed if Dibling goes to Spurs, simply because Levy wouldn't be prepared to pay the fee we would demand for him. Feels like the story has been fed to the papers to put a bit of pressure on Saints, but for all SRs faults we know that doesn't work after the Lavia/Liverpool saga 18 months ago
gio1saints Posted Tuesday at 09:43 Posted Tuesday at 09:43 (edited) The buy him and loan him back to saints story looks like a planted by agent(s) story to me. Just as likely to be Man Utd or Arsenal or a PSG ( yes he may surprise and go to a giant club - he does have a bit of the zidane- like body to hold the ball and fluidly move..) Spurs have got a bit more on their minds than buying a£50m teenager then not using him this season I’d say. Can imagine the uproar - Would be a not very spurs fan friendly move in current climate no matter how good everyone knows Dibling is. I personally think he is ultimately going to be on a playing quality and transfer fee par with a certain English player recently went to Madrid and was/is very successful. Put him in the RM team and he would shine imo. Which means £50m would look cheap. * * Dortmund paid Birmingham c £30m for Bellingham in 2020-21 Real Madrid paid £113m to them for him in 2023. Current transfermkt estimated value aged 21: £180m! Was Bellingham a better teenager than Tyler? Edited Tuesday at 09:50 by gio1saints 1
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