Toussaint Posted January 13 Posted January 13 On 13/01/2025 at 20:29, Chez said: Maybe long term we can really benefit from the multi club system? Expand Eventually we will be the lowest ranked of the three and will be grateful for any table scraps the other two throw us.
Göztepe Posted January 13 Posted January 13 On 13/01/2025 at 19:02, disconnect said: Bu gerçek mi?! Tüm bu oyuncular, Goztepe için 5 oyuncu alıp birinin iyi sonuç vermesi umuduyla almaktansa, sadece 20 milyon sterlinlik bir orta saha oyuncusu veya forvet alsaydık daha iyi olurdu... Bir kulüpten kaç tanesine izin veriliyor? Sanırım Lis transferi bir hediyeydi (teşekkürler!) ve sonra Matzuki ve Juan kiralık olarak geldi ve Victor Hugo satın alma opsiyonumuz ama onlar için mi oynuyor? Bunun nedeni diğerleri için çalışma izni alamamamız mı? Muhtemelen Kayı Sanda bu konuda sorun yaşamaz. Expand 5 players came to Göztepe, it did not cost 20 million euros, it is thought to be around 3-4 million euros. We have the purchase option for the total transfer of Juan and Matsuki and Victor Hugo, unless the purchase option is used in this transfer, Sport Rebuplic It doesn't cost anything.
Chez Posted January 13 Posted January 13 On 13/01/2025 at 22:17, Toussaint said: Eventually we will be the lowest ranked of the three and will be grateful for any table scraps the other two throw us. Expand you could be right, and things look bleak now, but it can turn around. We could get promoted next season, get more right than wrong in a couple of windows and a few youngsters make it...which helps us survive the drop the season after, just. Then we make some exciting transfers, plus one or two of the farmed out guys that shine help add some real depth. Survival is a formality as we hold our own. The club now has something to offer helping us get some top quality in. We beat the half decent teams and give the top sides a run for their money...we even push for Europe and this yo yo period starts to disappear into the rear view mirror, except for the one or two astute signings made over the last year or so like Sanda and Takaota. OK, so maybe I had one two many wines with my dinner tonight, but it seems like five minutes ago that I was watching Forest games in the third tier with my brother in law and look at them now. 3
Tommy Mulgrew Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Saints look to field an entire team of left backs before the season ends. https://www.givemesport.com/west-ham-and-southampton-eyeing-move-to-sign-20-yo-star/
Saint86 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 13/01/2025 at 11:48, goodymatt said: £7m for KWP is a steal, even with only 6 months left. Expand I wouldn't think their is a cat in hells chance KWP will make such a risky move this window. If he's leaving saints, it will not be to a club with a very high chance of getting relegated imo. 1
Saint86 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 13/01/2025 at 20:11, bugenhagen said: Alcaraz signed on the 11th, and made his debut on the 14th. Thats what happens when we sign a player who is good enough to improve the starting 11. I guess we will just have to wait and see, but my money goes on more waiting than seeing 😉 Expand 😴😴😴Players work their way back to fitness by playing limited minutes in the reserves - this is pretty standard and has always been this way. Automatically equating "a player coming back from injury playing 45min in the reserves", to, "he's shit and isn't good enough for the first team" is just a ludicrous take. He may well not be good enough for the prem - who of us knows at the moment? But that will ultimately be irrespective of whether he's coming back from injury and needs some easy minutes to get his fitness back up - lets judge him when/if he plays?!?! 2
disconnect Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 13/01/2025 at 22:57, Göztepe said: 5 players came to Göztepe, it did not cost 20 million euros, it is thought to be around 3-4 million euros. We have the purchase option for the total transfer of Juan and Matsuki and Victor Hugo, unless the purchase option is used in this transfer, Sport Rebuplic It doesn't cost anything. Expand Yes, they're low cost players, but there's much more that goes into the cost of a transfer, including their signing on fees, salary (which I bet Saints are subsidising some of), the actual cost of negotiating the transfer and agents fees etc, which could've been put into a single better player to help Saints now. This probably includes other signings like Edwards, Wood, Taylor, Cornet and Fraser - we probably would've been as strong with signing only one of those and putting the rest of the fees to a single standout player of the quality of Fernandes.
Dan Johnson Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 14/01/2025 at 08:21, Football Special said: Expand Next seasons star player and next seasons manager in 1 picture... 1
Gloucester Saint Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Plymouth have dropped Conor Hazard, their first choice and who had kept clean sheets including their cup win at Brentford. Wonder if Bazanu is going there on loan? 1
Turkish Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Chris Wood scored again last night. £15m same price as Adams and Armstrong cheaper than the African Ian Ormandroyd. 13 goals already this season, 14 last. He’s scored at least 10 goal every season he’s made 20 or more premier league appearances. Yes some of the genius on here sneered that he wasn’t good enough to be a saints player. Also proof you don’t need to spend big money to get decent players. 12
SW5 SAINT Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Seeming as we are likely to be in the Championship next season, I don’t why we not interested in signing Tom Cannon. He would be a popular addition to the squad…..
spyinthesky Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 09:32, SW5 SAINT said: Seeming as we are likely to be in the Championship next season, I don’t why we not interested in signing Tom Cannon. He would be a popular addition to the squad….. Expand and could help shoot us back into the Prem provided he is not to loose in his distribution😆
Saint86 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) On 15/01/2025 at 07:39, Turkish said: Chris Wood scored again last night. £15m same price as Adams and Armstrong cheaper than the African Ian Ormandroyd. 13 goals already this season, 14 last. He’s scored at least 10 goal every season he’s made 20 or more premier league appearances. Yes some of the genius on here sneered that he wasn’t good enough to be a saints player. Also proof you don’t need to spend big money to get decent players. Expand In fairness, its also about styles of play. He was never a "Martin" style signing. But agree otherwise - he is showing that there is still a place for good old fashioned centre forwards, and i personally love to see it. Reminds me of the way Lambert was unfancied by a lot of teams but became a real fan favourite at saints and was an absolute weapon for us and was integral to our system. Edit - thinking about it, was fairly astute by Cortese at the time that he picked Poch as the manager, someone who favoured the use of high energy attacking players (for the press) focussed around a target man centre forward who could hold the ball up and link play. He suited the players we had very well for a relatively unknown manager, and obviously went on to execute that with even better players at Spurs. Sports Republic could learn a thing or 2 about footballing styles, and matching it up with suitable manager and player recruitment. Edited January 15 by Saint86 6
Turkish Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) On 15/01/2025 at 09:54, Saint86 said: In fairness, its also about styles of play. He was never a "Martin" style signing. But agree otherwise - he is showing that there is still a place for good old fashioned centre forwards, and i personally love to see it. Reminds me of the way Lambert was unfancied by a lot of teams but became a real fan favourite at saints and was an absolute weapon for us and was integral to our system. Expand We were unlikely to get him, in our last relegation he went to Newcastle for £25m in the January window, no way we he have come here instead. Then when we were in the championship he went on loan to Forest then made his move for £15m in the summer. My point wasn't about Chris Wood, it was more that there are proven goal scorers out there available at a good price. Even at £25m he'd have been half the price of Onakouchu Adams and Armstrong and has scored more goals in the last two seasons than all 3 of them have ever scored at Premier league level. We dont have to be clever, we dont have to always buy cheap. One Chris Wood or 3 duds costing twice as much? It's a no brainer. The way people sneered that he was shit was hilarious when he's always been a decent goalscorer at every level he's played at. Edited January 15 by Turkish 6
Turkish Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 09:32, SW5 SAINT said: Seeming as we are likely to be in the Championship next season, I don’t why we not interested in signing Tom Cannon. He would be a popular addition to the squad….. Expand he should be able to fire us up the league.
SouSaint Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 10:02, Turkish said: We were unlikely to get him, in our last relegation he went to Newcastle for £25m in the January window, no way we he have come here instead. Then when we were in the championship he went on loan to Forest then made his move for £15m in the summer. My point wasn't about Chris Wood, it was more that there are proven goal scorers out there available at a good price. Even at £25m he'd have been half the price of Onakouchu Adams and Armstrong and has scored more goals in the last two seasons than all 3 of them have ever scored at Premier league level. We dont have to be clever, we dont have to always buy cheap. One Chris Wood or 3 duds costing twice as much? It's a no brainer. The way people sneered that he was shit was hilarious when he's always been a decent goalscorer at every level he's played at. Expand You're a year out there Turkish, Chris Wood moved to Forest in our relegation season during the same window where we paid a ridiculous sum for Tall Paul.
SaintLondon Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Would be nice to see some rumours, I don't really care whether we sign anyone or not, as we all know the season is a write off but with the football results being so drab, it would be nice to have something to be a little excited about. That said, I had a dream we won the next two games, if it happens I'll let you know my thoughts on the lottery numbers.
Badger Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 07:39, Turkish said: Chris Wood scored again last night. £15m same price as Adams and Armstrong cheaper than the African Ian Ormandroyd. 13 goals already this season, 14 last. He’s scored at least 10 goal every season he’s made 20 or more premier league appearances. Yes some of the genius on here sneered that he wasn’t good enough to be a saints player. Also proof you don’t need to spend big money to get decent players. Expand Another good example of where our scouting and recruitment policy has let us down. A good proven goal scorer, available at an affordable price, and within our budget (although wages may be different of course), but it appears that like the Huddersfield chairman when considering Lambert we decided there was 'no resale' value and moved on. Some of the best teams we've had in my lifetime have mixed old heads and younger players. A couple of years ago Thomas Delaney the Danish international was linked, I think he was 31 at the time. Seemed an ideal option to some of us on here, experienced, and proven, playing defensive MF which we needed. The more 'modern man' on here sneered at the suggestion of signing 'experienced ' players for 'leadership', and mirrors Saints approach. To me, signing someone like Delaney, or Wood would help the younger players flourish, rather than throwing them together to sink in the EPL. I doubt Steve Williams would have become the player he did, without Alan Ball guiding him in his early days. But that of course is just an observation from a Mark One Eyeball, rather than from a bastard spreadsheet or algorithm. 5
Miltonaggro Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) On 15/01/2025 at 10:02, Turkish said: We were unlikely to get him, in our last relegation he went to Newcastle for £25m in the January window, no way we he have come here instead. Then when we were in the championship he went on loan to Forest then made his move for £15m in the summer. My point wasn't about Chris Wood, it was more that there are proven goal scorers out there available at a good price. Even at £25m he'd have been half the price of Onakouchu Adams and Armstrong and has scored more goals in the last two seasons than all 3 of them have ever scored at Premier league level. We dont have to be clever, we dont have to always buy cheap. One Chris Wood or 3 duds costing twice as much? It's a no brainer. The way people sneered that he was shit was hilarious when he's always been a decent goalscorer at every level he's played at. Expand You would think Juric would feel the same in terms of making a few surgical cuts and treatments to stabilise the underperforming body. He's played and managed at a high level and must know what it takes. Edited January 15 by Miltonaggro
Miltonaggro Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 13:59, Miltonaggro said: You would think Juric would feel the same in terms of making a few surgical cuts and treatments to stabilise the underperforming body. He's played and managed at a high level and must know what it takes. Expand
Saint86 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) On 15/01/2025 at 10:02, Turkish said: One Chris Wood or 3 duds costing twice as much? It's a no brainer. The way people sneered that he was shit was hilarious when he's always been a decent goalscorer at every level he's played at. Expand I fully agree with you (I imagine the overwhelming majority do at this point). It doesn't have to be Chris Wood, but there are/were proven players that could/would've suit(ed) whatever system we've been after. But sadly rather than buying quality, we've spent over 200million scatter gunning on fluff for the squad in the hope that we'd uncover gems or get players for the future (with not enough thought on the here and now). We've also switched styles quite extremely over that period. Edited January 15 by Saint86 2
Chez Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 07:39, Turkish said: Also proof you don’t need to spend big money to get decent players. Expand If we were still in touch and let's say Onuachu had departed on January 1st, would there be a similar forward you'd go for this time around? There's not too many forewards that are surplus to requirement strikers in the Prem these days. Looking at strikers that haven't played a lot this season: there is the likes of Ings, Wilson, Edouard, Daka, Ferguson, Awoniyi.... 1
Patrick Bateman Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 14:14, Chez said: If we were still in touch and let's say Onuachu had departed on January 1st, would there be a similar forward you'd go for this time around? There's not too many forewards that are surplus to requirement strikers in the Prem these days. Looking at strikers that haven't played a lot this season: there is the likes of Ings, Wilson, Edouard, Daka, Ferguson, Awoniyi.... Expand Now there's a good shout ... although I suspect he'll be happier on the bench for the exciting team in 2nd, rather than the dishwasher team in 20th ...
leesaint88 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 14:15, Patrick Bateman said: Now there's a good shout ... although I suspect he'll be happier on the bench for the exciting team in 2nd, rather than the dishwasher team in 20th ... Expand He's been heavily linked with West Ham.
Chez Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 14:15, Patrick Bateman said: Now there's a good shout ... although I suspect he'll be happier on the bench for the exciting team in 2nd, rather than the dishwasher team in 20th ... Expand Yeah, I mentioned him on this thread earlier. Possibly a guy we could try to sign in the summer, and due to his injury problems, Forrest might consider allowing to leave, although dropping down to the championship almost certainly won't figure in his near future plans. The championship is a hard sell to any current Prem player. Getting Brooks last year was a great bit of business (some signings have worked out) IMO and getting similar quality/creativity again in forward areas will be essential (especially if Dibling departs) if we are to create chances for the likes of Armstrong and Archer. 1
Chez Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 14:25, leesaint88 said: He's been heavily linked with West Ham. Expand Interesting that (the reports say) he actually wants away. Can't see Forrest allowing him to depart unless they can bring someone else in.
Midfield_General Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 09:32, SW5 SAINT said: Seeming as we are likely to be in the Championship next season, I don’t why we not interested in signing Tom Cannon. He would be a popular addition to the squad….. Expand Cannon? Balls.
Wade Garrett Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 09:32, SW5 SAINT said: Seeming as we are likely to be in the Championship next season, I don’t why we not interested in signing Tom Cannon. He would be a popular addition to the squad….. Expand He’s been fucking shit since Bobby Ball died. That bloke carried him for years. Not for me I’m afraid. 7
Badger Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 14:28, Chez said: Yeah, I mentioned him on this thread earlier. Possibly a guy we could try to sign in the summer, and due to his injury problems, Forrest might consider allowing to leave, although dropping down to the championship almost certainly won't figure in his near future plans. The championship is a hard sell to any current Prem player. Getting Brooks last year was a great bit of business (some signings have worked out) IMO and getting similar quality/creativity again in forward areas will be essential (especially if Dibling departs) if we are to create chances for the likes of Armstrong and Archer. Expand Sounds our sort of player... Agree with you about Brooks by the way.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted January 15 Posted January 15 From AS Marca on X: SPECIAL NEWS - BOMB OF THE YEAR: Fenerbahçe are about to transfer super striker Romulo € from Göztepe for 9.5M + Bartuğ Elmaz (Loan). ✅ In addition to this, Bright Osayi Samuel will also be given to Southampton club for free. #SaintsFC
leesaint88 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 16:41, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: In addition to this, Bright Osayi Samuel will also be given to Southampton club for free. #SaintsFC Expand Pretty sure he was at QPR for a bit? He's a bit meh, but has European experience at Fener.
ErwinK1961 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 16:56, leesaint88 said: Pretty sure he was at QPR for a bit? He's a bit meh, but has European experience at Fener. Expand Didn’t he also right hook a fan who ran on the pitch?
SuperSAINT Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 16:56, leesaint88 said: Pretty sure he was at QPR for a bit? He's a bit meh, but has European experience at Fener. Expand Saints Transfer Window Bingo with him getting linked.
HarvSFC Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 14:28, Chez said: Getting Brooks last year was a great bit of business (some signings have worked out) Expand The worrying thing is, is that a lot of our successful signings last year can be attributed to Wilcox/Martin, and they're no longer here. Shows the need to get a good footballing person in, who knows the Championship. Manning - Not so good last season, better this one, a Martin signing. Charles - Still got potential. Wilcox signing from the City academy. Downes - Key last season, Martin signing. Fraser - Did a job as a squad player last season, ex-roommate of Martin, his signing. Harwood-Bellis - Wilcox signing from the City academy. Brooks - Wilcox worked with him within City's academy and Brooks mentioned him in his signing interview. All of these players barring Charles, who had the least influence last season also had Championship experience. On 15/01/2025 at 16:41, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: From AS Marca on X: SPECIAL NEWS - BOMB OF THE YEAR: Fenerbahçe are about to transfer super striker Romulo € from Göztepe for 9.5M + Bartuğ Elmaz (Loan). ✅ In addition to this, Bright Osayi Samuel will also be given to Southampton club for free. #SaintsFC Expand All speculation, unsure if true, but we'd be better off getting Romulu rather than another right-back. Goztepe are 4th and still chasing a Europa League spot. It would be a bit worrying if SR are willing to sell their top scorer for less than £10m mid-season with a lot still to play for. 1
lambtiss Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 16:41, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: From AS Marca on X: SPECIAL NEWS - BOMB OF THE YEAR: Fenerbahçe are about to transfer super striker Romulo € from Göztepe for 9.5M + Bartuğ Elmaz (Loan). ✅ In addition to this, Bright Osayi Samuel will also be given to Southampton club for free. #SaintsFC Expand Why aren't we getting Romulu if he is good enough for Fenerbahce and he is at a sister club? 3
SaintLondon Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 19:02, lambtiss said: Why aren't we getting Romulu if he is good enough for Fenerbahce and he is at a sister club? Expand Goztepe don't own him, he's on loan with an option to buy so not sure that puts us in any advantageous position. 1
Turkish Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 15/01/2025 at 16:56, leesaint88 said: Pretty sure he was at QPR for a bit? He's a bit meh, but has European experience at Fener. Expand yep 100 odd apperances for them in the championship. 12 apperances for NIgeria this season, sounds perfect for the championship!
woodsaint1 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Lemina being disruptive again. Guy is clearly an idiot 1 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted January 16 Posted January 16 On 16/01/2025 at 00:22, SaintsFan86 said: Shea Charles has been recalled. Expand I don't see why he should get to enjoy a season, when the rest of us aren't. 🙂 The last game I recall him having under Martin's system was tidy if not pressured. Hopefully, he'll make a difference in a midfield crying out for help under Juric. 1 4
CSA96 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 On 16/01/2025 at 00:22, SaintsFan86 said: Shea Charles has been recalled. Expand Blurted out by the SWFC owner at a fan forum which is somehow still going at half past midnight! Good morning Owls fans 1 1
Saint86 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) On 16/01/2025 at 00:22, SaintsFan86 said: Shea Charles has been recalled. Expand https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/336175-chansiri-declares-war-on-southampton/#comments Pretty f'kn hard to damage us more than SR have this season 😄. I wonder if this is somehow related to future moves for Rohl? Also, what a thing to say about Shea Charles... (if indeed he did say it). Edited January 16 by Saint86
CSA96 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 On 16/01/2025 at 01:34, Saint86 said: https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/336175-chansiri-declares-war-on-southampton/#comments Pretty f'kn hard to damage us more than SR have this season 😄. I wonder if this is somehow related to future moves for Rohl? Also, what a thing to say about Shea Charles... (if indeed he did say it). Expand Undoubtedly it will be. Nice to know it’s Sheffield Wednesday we’ll be lawyering up with next summer, after doing Swansea last season
It's There Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) I’m pleased he’s been recalled. He’s our player and we had the right to do it. He may well strengthen the team and provide a better platform for us to attack. Juric will have been following his loan with interest. Edited January 16 by It's There Predictive txt 3
egg Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Poor decision imo. He's better off playing up there than sitting on our bench or getting cameo's here and there. It'd only make sense of big Les was going back, but that'd make no sense. 3
Toussaint Posted January 16 Posted January 16 On 15/01/2025 at 23:16, woodsaint1 said: Lemina being disruptive again. Guy is clearly an idiot Expand Or maybe has issues
Scummer Posted January 16 Posted January 16 On 16/01/2025 at 07:15, egg said: Poor decision imo. He's better off playing up there than sitting on our bench or getting cameo's here and there. It'd only make sense of big Les was going back, but that'd make no sense. Expand Downes spends half the season injured, a midfield duo including Aribo just gets walked straight through. Charles has to be a better option than that. 4
Toussaint Posted January 16 Posted January 16 On 16/01/2025 at 07:15, egg said: Poor decision imo. He's better off playing up there than sitting on our bench or getting cameo's here and there. It'd only make sense of big Les was going back, but that'd make no sense. Expand I don’t see why he’d be restricted to cameos, he’s way better than some of our other midfield options. He’s our player, we are horrendously light in midfield, makes absolute sense to me. 4
Nolan Posted January 16 Posted January 16 On 16/01/2025 at 07:15, egg said: Poor decision imo. He's better off playing up there than sitting on our bench or getting cameo's here and there. It'd only make sense of big Les was going back, but that'd make no sense. Expand disagree. If he fits the Juric play style better than Downes, then he needs to be in the defensive midfield pairing with Ugochukwu.
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