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leesaint88

leesaint88

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43 minutes ago, Chez said:

I thought Juric might have waited until after this cup game to see what Edwards was like, but maybe he saw enough on the training pitch. Martin obviously didnt think he was ready. Hopefully he does well in the championship and then we can reap the rewards next summer - although there will still be lots of other CBs under contract.

Personally, I've not been as impressed with Wood as others so far. Some of the issues he had at Swansea seem to be there in terms of poor decision making when he has the ball - by that I mean putting teamates in deep shit with the wrong pass. Perhaps he needs more time to settle in and gain confidence - which may help him make better choices. That doesn't mean he won't be a good signing for us over the long term, but he makes me nervous. He does have the physical attributes, but I dont see any of our CBs as powerful dominating players. We saw how Awoniyo bullied ABK two seasons ago and I wonder how we will fair against him and Chris Wood in a week or two. 

If I was ABKs agent, I'd be trying to find him a new home too. 

Cup game or not, I don't think Edwards is really ready for top flight football at the moment. As you've said, a decent second half of the season with QPR will do him the world of good (as with Charles too).

I might have to go back on my words here a little about Woods, maybe it's more along the lines he's surprised me a fair bit as the feedback from Swansea fans wasn't exactly positive when it came to his all round game. He is another player who is still young and I think if he can improve on some of his play then he'll be a really good asset for us.

I can't see him even playing in that Forest game, he might get a run out against Swansea at the weekend but I think he'll be off soon enough and I don't blame him. Hopefully Bednarek takes the advice coming out of the Polish press and decides to move to France or Italy. 

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OneMrsWallace

OneMrsWallace

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4 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

Cup game or not, I don't think Edwards is really ready for top flight football at the moment. As you've said, a decent second half of the season with QPR will do him the world of good (as with Charles too).

I might have to go back on my words here a little about Woods, maybe it's more along the lines he's surprised me a fair bit as the feedback from Swansea fans wasn't exactly positive when it came to his all round game. He is another player who is still young and I think if he can improve on some of his play then he'll be a really good asset for us.

I can't see him even playing in that Forest game, he might get a run out against Swansea at the weekend but I think he'll be off soon enough and I don't blame him. Hopefully Bednarek takes the advice coming out of the Polish press and decides to move to France or Italy. 

I appreciate it wasn't the point you were making but these posts really highlight how we've ended up with a squad of largely Championship players in the PL. Disastrous for this season but maybe signs of hope for next. 

macca155

macca155

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Not sure where to write this, but I guess here will do.

If ever there was a classic example of the malaise at our club, it is the Ronnie Edwards debacle.

Despite looking decent pre season, he was frozen out, then loaned out.

Now I read he had a great debut for QPR ...... as a bloody defensive midfielder. The one position his 'actual' team have really struggled with all season.

I knpw its a lower level but did no one think to try that.

Absolute arse

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Suhari

Suhari

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4 minutes ago, macca155 said:

Not sure where to write this, but I guess here will do.

If ever there was a classic example of the malaise at our club, it is the Ronnie Edwards debacle.

Despite looking decent pre season, he was frozen out, then loaned out.

Now I read he had a great debut for QPR ...... as a bloody defensive midfielder. The one position his 'actual' team have really struggled with all season.

I knpw its a lower level but did no one think to try that.

Absolute arse

Ronnie Edwards is an anagram of Jack Stephens! Who knew?

Hope he gets some time as a CB and comes back able to help us next season. Strange signing since we didn't play him.

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Osvaldorama

Osvaldorama

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Yeah… weird as when he played he looked good and even better than Wood. Don’t really understand the management of him tbh. 
 

I assume the club have just given up considering the lack of rumours? 
 

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woodsaint1

woodsaint1

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Just now, Osvaldorama said:

Yeah… weird as when he played he looked good and even better than Wood. Don’t really understand the management of him tbh. 
 

I assume the club have just given up considering the lack of rumours? 
 

They only met on Tuesday to discuss targets. It will probably be next Tuesday before somebody picks up the phone to another club.

In all seriousness, I would be surprised if we had any incomings. Would be content with a window where we sold Sulemana, Onuachu, KWP, Taylor and loaned out BBD

Chez

Chez

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4 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

Blast from the summer for @Chez our mate Banza is banging in the goals for Trabzonspor got 11 so far this season, big Paul in total got 15 last season.

Interesting he went there in the end.

Yeah, 11 in 15 league games. Really not sure if goals in the Turkish league means a lot.
He went on loan. I think Trabzonspor paid a €2m loan fee for the pleasure.

Not sure he's good enough/physical enough to play on his own up front in the Prem, but he couldn't have been much worse than BBD, Archer, Armstrong and Onuachu. Maybe we offload Onuachu to Trabzonspor next summer and bring Banza here? The Championship might be a hard sell, but we have to try to find a striker that can make the leap from Championship to Prem. If not him, then someone else. Maybe break the bank getting Awoniyi from Forest? Yeah, that ain't happening either.

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Sparkkyy

Sparkkyy

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On 09/01/2025 at 15:10, Matthew Le God said:

Saints will get a financial benefit from this as a former academy player...

 

Chump change 

Gingeletiss

Gingeletiss

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13 minutes ago, Chez said:

Yeah, 11 in 15 league games. Really not sure if goals in the Turkish league means a lot.
He went on loan. I think Trabzonspor paid a €2m loan fee for the pleasure.

Not sure he's good enough/physical enough to play on his own up front in the Prem, but he couldn't have been much worse than BBD, Archer, Armstrong and Onuachu. Maybe we offload Onuachu to Trabzonspor next summer and bring Banza here? The Championship might be a hard sell, but we have to try to find a striker that can make the leap from Championship to Prem. If not him, then someone else. Maybe break the bank getting Awoniyi from Forest? Yeah, that ain't happening either.

Could do with someone like Ballard!!!!!!! Oh yes, he is back, and has scored already tonight. Make that 2.

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Chez

Chez

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5 minutes ago, Sparkkyy said:

Chump change 

£2m would pay for a Banza season loan that might give us some firepower up front. Champ change.

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Chez

Chez

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10 minutes ago, Gingeletiss said:

Could do with someone like Ballard!!!!!!! Oh yes, he is back, and has scored already tonight.

Still hopeful he can develop into a top player. The Blackpool loan didn't seem to go well terribly well if judged on goals, so not sure how far off he is being good enough for the Championship next year.

SaintNewForest

SaintNewForest

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11 minutes ago, Gingeletiss said:

Could do with someone like Ballard!!!!!!! Oh yes, he is back, and has scored already tonight. Make that 2.

Desperately want him to succeed here; give him 6 months in the u21s with occasional first team forays and get him in the squad full time next season

Sounded like he wasn't utilised to his best at Blackpool under Bruce (shock, I knew that loan would go south once Critchley was out)

Sparkkyy

Sparkkyy

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2 minutes ago, Chez said:

£2m would pay for a Banza season loan that might give us some firepower up front. Champ change.

If you’re planning on spending it this window it might as well be chump change.

Chez

Chez

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Just now, Sparkkyy said:

If you’re planning on spending it this window it might as well be chump change.

No. As I have said previously, I don't see any point in bringing anyone in this window. We are just too far adrift. £2m goes a lot further in the championship.

IFHP

IFHP

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8 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said:

Genoa want Sulemana.

Fuck me I didn’t think they’d be another club whose recruitment team is as bad as ours. 

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HarvSFC

HarvSFC

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18 hours ago, OneMrsWallace said:

I appreciate it wasn't the point you were making but these posts really highlight how we've ended up with a squad of largely Championship players in the PL. Disastrous for this season but maybe signs of hope for next. 

Championship signings can work, but like with many signings we've made, it's all about who you go for. Crystal Palace and West Ham have recruited from the second division well with Bowen, Olise, Eze and Wharton to name a few. Ipswich also signed a Championship super team. The top scorer in Szmodics, two that we were linked with, but reportedly outbid on in Delap and Clarke and then one of the centre-backs in the team of the year in Greaves, while we were going for Swansea and Peterborough centre-backs. Now signing Philogene also, who also looked decent in the Championship. If Ipswich go down, they're the best setup to go back up.

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OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

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15 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Crystal Palace and West Ham have recruited from the second division well with Bowen, Olise, Eze and Wharton to name a few

Yes, keep saying there are good players in lower leagues which we should be looking for now with a view to bringing them on in the summer.

Agree with Woodsaint, this is a window to sell. If Juric reckons there's 17/18 players he is interested in, there's a lot of players we need to find a new home. 

Chez

Chez

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1 hour ago, HarvSFC said:

Championship signings can work, but like with many signings we've made, it's all about who you go for. Crystal Palace and West Ham have recruited from the second division well with Bowen, Olise, Eze and Wharton to name a few. Ipswich also signed a Championship super team. The top scorer in Szmodics, two that we were linked with, but reportedly outbid on in Delap and Clarke and then one of the centre-backs in the team of the year in Greaves, while we were going for Swansea and Peterborough centre-backs. Now signing Philogene also, who also looked decent in the Championship. If Ipswich go down, they're the best setup to go back up.

Delap, Sara and Asprilla were possibly the championship guys to go for, but it's really hard to know if they will work out and perhaps just as importantly, almost immediately make an impact. Not sure Eze and Olise were amazing straight away for Palace.  Downes was tremendous for us last season. We really had to bring him back. 

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Chez

Chez

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1 hour ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

If Juric reckons there's 17/18 players he is interested in,

is that something he has said?

OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

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2 hours ago, Chez said:

is that something he has said?

"For us [the FA Cup] is really important. We need the joy of playing good games. For us in this moment everything is important. I don’t want to rest [players]. I have 17, 18 players, maybe more, who are competitive. I just want to win the game and then after the game I’ll think about Manchester [United] and Tottenham."

Quoted this from the Southampton website. Got the impression he's going to put out a full strength team tomorrow.

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egg

egg

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8 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

"For us [the FA Cup] is really important. We need the joy of playing good games. For us in this moment everything is important. I don’t want to rest [players]. I have 17, 18 players, maybe more, who are competitive. I just want to win the game and then after the game I’ll think about Manchester [United] and Tottenham."

Quoted this from the Southampton website. Got the impression he's going to put out a full strength team tomorrow.

Good. We need to play to win, and I want to see these players earn their keep. 

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Chez

Chez

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23 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

"For us [the FA Cup] is really important. We need the joy of playing good games. For us in this moment everything is important. I don’t want to rest [players]. I have 17, 18 players, maybe more, who are competitive. I just want to win the game and then after the game I’ll think about Manchester [United] and Tottenham."

Quoted this from the Southampton website. Got the impression he's going to put out a full strength team tomorrow.

Cheers. I misunderstood and thought it meant he wanted to sign 17 or 18 players! 

I hope he does play his best side. We need to give it our best shot. I know everything is shit right now, but a favourable draw and a few wins could see us in the later rounds and then you can dream of repeating what Wigan did. When the skates were in the Prem and won cup games I hated it and was always worried the might get to Wembley. 

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saintant

saintant

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10 minutes ago, Chez said:

Cheers. I misunderstood and thought it meant he wanted to sign 17 or 18 players! 

I hope he does play his best side. We need to give it our best shot. I know everything is shit right now, but a favourable draw and a few wins could see us in the later rounds and then you can dream of repeating what Wigan did. When the skates were in the Prem and won cup games I hated it and was always worried the might get to Wembley. 

I think he needs to sign 17 or 18 players.

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Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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18 minutes ago, saintant said:

I think he needs to sign 17 or 18 players.

Saints don't really need to sign anyone for a Championship promotion challenging campaign. That is already the level the squad is at.

Sparkkyy

Sparkkyy

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33 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Saints don't really need to sign anyone for a Championship promotion challenging campaign. That is already the level the squad is at.

Luton fans would probably disagree with that logic

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Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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32 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Saints don't really need to sign anyone for a Championship promotion challenging campaign. That is already the level the squad is at.

Dont agree with that we need a defensive midfielder look what happened when Downes got injured or missed games. We do have Shea but it’s a long season and we need better than we have now in squad for that position.

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Chez

Chez

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4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Saints don't really need to sign anyone for a Championship promotion challenging campaign. That is already the level the squad is at.

Perhaps, but unless we sign some flair players in attack, this side might struggle for goals in the championship. 

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lambtiss

lambtiss

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56 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Saints don't really need to sign anyone for a Championship promotion challenging campaign. That is already the level the squad is at.

I think you may have missed the joke here 

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saintant

saintant

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2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

Saints don't really need to sign anyone for a Championship promotion challenging campaign. That is already the level the squad is at.

We'll see.

Fitzhugh Fella

Fitzhugh Fella

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21 hours ago, SaintNewForest said:

Desperately want him to succeed here; give him 6 months in the u21s with occasional first team forays and get him in the squad full time next season

Sounded like he wasn't utilised to his best at Blackpool under Bruce (shock, I knew that loan would go south once Critchley was out)

Had a nasty shoulder injury and struggled after that. Bruce said the injury affected his form

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Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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2 hours ago, Chez said:

Perhaps, but unless we sign some flair players in attack, this side might struggle for goals in the championship. 

They are out of their depth in the Premier League but Armstrong, Brereton Díaz, Archer and even Stewart (in a small sample) have all been prolific in the Championship.

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Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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2 hours ago, Give it to Ron said:

Dont agree with that we need a defensive midfielder look what happened when Downes got injured or missed games. We do have Shea but it’s a long season and we need better than we have now in squad for that position.

In Downes and Charles you've just listed two dms. Both are good enough for what we need to get out of the Championship. Ronnie Edwards can also play there and did so in the Championship this week. How many players per position are you saying we need?

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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2 hours ago, Sparkkyy said:

Luton fans would probably disagree with that logic

We have a better squad than Luton, it might not appear that way but Martin's tactics destroyed any hope of staying up and now we are a lost cause due to being so far adrift a d devoid of confidence. 

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johnnyboy

johnnyboy

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2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

In what positions are we too week for a Championship promotion challenging campaign. 

Don’t you ever get bored with this level of whataboutery,🙄🙄

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SotonianWill

SotonianWill

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2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Why?

Based on the mood around the club after finishing on the lowest points tally ever recorded. Quality is important but so too is morale; if losing continues to be our habit, I don't see why we wouldn't fall away, even in a worse league. 

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johnnyboy

johnnyboy

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1 minute ago, Toadhall Saint said:

How long have you been on here? 😂

Good point ! Crack on Matthew , nobody is bored of it all !!

saintant

saintant

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19 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

In what positions are we too week for a Championship promotion challenging campaign. 

Well, we won't know until next season will we?

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