January Transfer Window 2025

[Saint86]

1 hour ago, stevy777_x said:

Makes me sick thinking of the quality of a striker we could have brought in had we combined transfer fee and wages from BBD and Archer.

Agreed!!!

Attacking players where i consider we've wasted money (for what we've got) and that we've signed during the time period where we have been linked to Delap...

Mara (shocking buy),
Onuachu (i actually think there is a player in there for us),
BBD (cheaper but you get what you pay for),
Archer (might come good eventually but hasn't yet),
Sulemana (extortionate amount of money for what he's returned)
Ross Stewart (shocking buy),
Orsic - see BBD,
cornet (wages - pointless loan),

Delap has 6 goals... isn't that at least as many as the above have all contributed as well?

Note - it doesn't have to be delap that we signed... any reasonable striker would have sufficed!!!! 

Edited 26 November, 2024 by Saint86

[Badger]

2 hours ago, stevy777_x said:

Makes me sick thinking of the quality of a striker we could have brought in had we combined transfer fee and wages from BBD and Archer.

Staggering how inept we are when it comes to recruitment. How, why has it become so chronic ?

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, Saint86 said:

Agreed!!!

Attacking players where i consider we've wasted money (for what we've got) and that we've signed during the time period where we have been linked to Delap...

Mara (shocking buy),
Onuachu (i actually think there is a player in there for us),
BBD (cheaper but you get what you pay for),
Archer (might come good eventually but hasn't yet),
Sulemana (extortionate amount of money for what he's returned)
Ross Stewart (shocking buy),
Orsic - see BBD,
cornet (wages - pointless loan),

Delap has 6 goals... isn't that at least as many as the above have all contributed as well?

Note - it doesn't have to be delap that we signed... any reasonable striker would have sufficed!!!! 

A lot of people on here were laughing about Ipswich signing Delap...

[egg]

1 hour ago, Saint86 said:

Agreed!!!

Attacking players where i consider we've wasted money (for what we've got) and that we've signed during the time period where we have been linked to Delap...

Mara (shocking buy),
Onuachu (i actually think there is a player in there for us),
BBD (cheaper but you get what you pay for),
Archer (might come good eventually but hasn't yet),
Sulemana (extortionate amount of money for what he's returned)
Ross Stewart (shocking buy),
Orsic - see BBD,
cornet (wages - pointless loan),

Delap has 6 goals... isn't that at least as many as the above have all contributed as well?

Note - it doesn't have to be delap that we signed... any reasonable striker would have sufficed!!!! 

I can't believe that many of us who watched Delap struggle in the championship thought him to be the answer. Based on this season's performances, sure, we missed out, but I'm not having it that people who watched him last season were getting excited. 

[Badger]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

I can't believe that many of us who watched Delap struggle in the championship thought him to be the answer. Based on this season's performances, sure, we missed out, but I'm not having it that people who watched him last season were getting excited. 

Looked pretty average last season. 

[Farmer Saint]

10 minutes ago, Badger said:

Staggering how inept we are when it comes to recruitment. How, why has it become so chronic ?

It's because most strikers now are not traditional strikers, they are system players. We're just not able to identify the correct players for our system.

If we continue to play as we generally do, we need a striker who is great with his back to goal, to hold up the ball and lay it off. We bought Archer, who plays off the last man for when we break at pace (hardly ever), and BBD who is meant to be an inside forward but is playing a bit too wide to make up for a lack of full back overlap when we play a back 4. BBD is also shit.

 

[hypochondriac]

39 minutes ago, Badger said:

Looked pretty average last season. 

I all the accounts I looked at at the time hull fans loved him and thought he'd be more than good enough for the prem. 

[Suhari]

2 hours ago, Saint86 said:

Agreed!!!

Attacking players where i consider we've wasted money (for what we've got) and that we've signed during the time period where we have been linked to Delap...

Mara (shocking buy),
Onuachu (i actually think there is a player in there for us),
BBD (cheaper but you get what you pay for),
Archer (might come good eventually but hasn't yet),
Sulemana (extortionate amount of money for what he's returned)
Ross Stewart (shocking buy),
Orsic - see BBD,
cornet (wages - pointless loan),

Delap has 6 goals... isn't that at least as many as the above have all contributed as well?

Note - it doesn't have to be delap that we signed... any reasonable striker would have sufficed!!!! 

We haven't made great signings, true. But then, has RM ever managed to play to any of these guys strengths?

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, Suhari said:

We haven't made great signings, true. But then, has RM ever managed to play to any of these guys strengths?

Fernandes, Lallana, Sugawara, THB, Downes have been alright signings to various degrees. It's the kay signings in attacking positions that have been our main downfall. 

[obelisk]

2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

A lot of people on here were laughing about Ipswich signing Delap...

Perhaps he's getting better service.

[ErwinK1961]

3 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

A lot of people on here were laughing about Ipswich signing Delap...

After the Lazio friendly, I mused that BBD would be a better signing than Delap.. 

[HarvSFC]

Terminate the loans of Ugochukwu and Cornet in January and get some actual loans that benefit the starting eleven. Probably easier to agree a termination with Chelsea, as they should be wanting him to get more minutes than what he has been. West Ham probably just grateful to have Cornet off the wage bill, and like with Holgate last January will need another club to come in for him for any movement.

Evan Ferguson's available, apparently.

[Hatch]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c154jn0gd0eo

 

Hopefully a very generous Saints supporter with the lucky ticket

[notnowcato]

9 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

Terminate the loans of Ugochukwu and Cornet in January and get some actual loans that benefit the starting eleven. Probably easier to agree a termination with Chelsea, as they should be wanting him to get more minutes than what he has been. West Ham probably just grateful to have Cornet off the wage bill, and like with Holgate last January will need another club to come in for him for any movement.

Evan Ferguson's available, apparently.

Ferguson probably is available for a loan, I think Enciso is getting minutes in the 21s so a loan move could be on the cards as well. 
Our current loanees are not having any impact. More so Cornet, if we can return him to open up a spot then we have to do that. 
Lesley I was hopeful for but from what I’ve seen he doesn’t offer much more than Shea. It would be tempting to return Lesley and bring Shea back, no idea if the agreements would allow such a thing to happen. 

[Convict Colony]

Who is going to want to join this shit show unless we win a few games before January.

Also where the fuck is sulemana ?

[Farmer Saint]

2 hours ago, notnowcato said:

Ferguson probably is available for a loan, I think Enciso is getting minutes in the 21s so a loan move could be on the cards as well. 
Our current loanees are not having any impact. More so Cornet, if we can return him to open up a spot then we have to do that. 
Lesley I was hopeful for but from what I’ve seen he doesn’t offer much more than Shea. It would be tempting to return Lesley and bring Shea back, no idea if the agreements would allow such a thing to happen. 

I don't think we'd get Ferguson tbh, feels too good a player for us - we're not allowed nice things.

Edited 27 November, 2024 by Farmer Saint

[Master Bates]

1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

Who is going to want to join this shit show unless we win a few games before January.

Also where the fuck is sulemana ?

Think he was on the bench v Liverpool 

[Wade Garrett]

On 26/11/2024 at 13:58, Farmer Saint said:

A lot of people on here were laughing about Ipswich signing Delap...

He’s proved me wrong.

[Turkish]

On 26/11/2024 at 11:10, stevy777_x said:

Makes me sick thinking of the quality of a striker we could have brought in had we combined transfer fee and wages from BBD and Archer.

dont get too sick, we'd have spunked it one someone shite we've never heard of like we did when we spent big before and all the saps on here would definitely know all about him and know how great he is. Remember how Guido Carillo averaged a goal every other game, honestly he did.

[Harry_SFC]

9 hours ago, notnowcato said:

Ferguson probably is available for a loan, I think Enciso is getting minutes in the 21s so a loan move could be on the cards as well. 
Our current loanees are not having any impact. More so Cornet, if we can return him to open up a spot then we have to do that. 
Lesley I was hopeful for but from what I’ve seen he doesn’t offer much more than Shea. It would be tempting to return Lesley and bring Shea back, no idea if the agreements would allow such a thing to happen. 

Both Enciso and Ferguson would improve the starting 11. I doubt Charles has got a recall clause tbh. 

Edited 27 November, 2024 by Harry_SFC

[Wade Garrett]

No fucking point getting new players in if we still have the same manager.

[sambosa75]

I think there’s a player in Archer.  He’s fed off scraps for the main part.  If we got the ball into the forwards more often, and quicker, he’d be on the end of a lot more chances.  He’s got a good finish on him, bar penalties.

[SambaMaverick]

11 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

No fucking point getting new players in if we still have the same manager.

And no point spending any more money when we'll be 15+ points adrift in January.

[tdmickey3]

13 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

No fucking point getting new players in if we still have the same manager.

And he would say, "he`s still learning the process" while not playing him until March

[Tommy Mulgrew]

Striker alert:

Several Premier League teams are fighting over Fábio Silva

Fabio Silva, loaned to UD Las Palmas, could return to the Premier League as Wolves analyze his future.

The young forward Fabio Silva, owned by Wolves and currently on loan at UD Las Palmas, is attracting interest from Premier League teams due to his outstanding performance this season. Bournemouth, Southampton, and Brentford have joined the race to sign the Portuguese attacker, who has made a strong impression this season.

At just 22 years old, Silva has established himself as a key figure for the Canary Islands team, standing out for his mobility, goal-scoring instinct, and ability to pose a threat in the opponent's area. His performance has not only helped Las Palmas compete at the highest level but has also increased his value as one of the most interesting prospects in European football.

Bournemouth sees Fabio Silva as an opportunity to strengthen their attack, while Southampton, currently undergoing a rebuilding phase, is searching for a forward who can lead their offense in the long term. On the other hand, Brentford, known for investing in young talents, is considering the Portuguese as a potential replacement in their frontline.

Wolves have doubts about his future.

Despite the growing interest from these clubs, Wolves still have the final say on Silva's future. His contract with the English club ties him until 2026, giving Wolves a strong position in the negotiations. However, the excellent performance at UD Las Palmas could raise his market value, complicating the competition among interested clubs.

The upcoming summer transfer window will be crucial in determining Fabio Silva's future. If the offers materialize, the young forward could return to England with a leading role at one of the teams vying for his services.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

43 minutes ago, Tommy Mulgrew said:

Striker alert:

 

Several Premier League teams are fighting over Fábio Silva

Fabio Silva, loaned to UD Las Palmas, could return to the Premier League as Wolves analyze his future.

The young forward Fabio Silva, owned by Wolves and currently on loan at UD Las Palmas, is attracting interest from Premier League teams due to his outstanding performance this season. Bournemouth, Southampton, and Brentford have joined the race to sign the Portuguese attacker, who has made a strong impression this season.

At just 22 years old, Silva has established himself as a key figure for the Canary Islands team, standing out for his mobility, goal-scoring instinct, and ability to pose a threat in the opponent's area. His performance has not only helped Las Palmas compete at the highest level but has also increased his value as one of the most interesting prospects in European football.

Bournemouth sees Fabio Silva as an opportunity to strengthen their attack, while Southampton, currently undergoing a rebuilding phase, is searching for a forward who can lead their offense in the long term. On the other hand, Brentford, known for investing in young talents, is considering the Portuguese as a potential replacement in their frontline.

Wolves have doubts about his future.

Despite the growing interest from these clubs, Wolves still have the final say on Silva's future. His contract with the English club ties him until 2026, giving Wolves a strong position in the negotiations. However, the excellent performance at UD Las Palmas could raise his market value, complicating the competition among interested clubs.

The upcoming summer transfer window will be crucial in determining Fabio Silva's future. If the offers materialize, the young forward could return to England with a leading role at one of the teams vying for his services.

Never mind his finishing or his ability in the opponent's box. Can he track back to provide an extra man in midfield for some sideways transitions? 🙂

[Wade Garrett]

54 minutes ago, Tommy Mulgrew said:

Striker alert:

 

Several Premier League teams are fighting over Fábio Silva

Fabio Silva, loaned to UD Las Palmas, could return to the Premier League as Wolves analyze his future.

The young forward Fabio Silva, owned by Wolves and currently on loan at UD Las Palmas, is attracting interest from Premier League teams due to his outstanding performance this season. Bournemouth, Southampton, and Brentford have joined the race to sign the Portuguese attacker, who has made a strong impression this season.

At just 22 years old, Silva has established himself as a key figure for the Canary Islands team, standing out for his mobility, goal-scoring instinct, and ability to pose a threat in the opponent's area. His performance has not only helped Las Palmas compete at the highest level but has also increased his value as one of the most interesting prospects in European football.

Bournemouth sees Fabio Silva as an opportunity to strengthen their attack, while Southampton, currently undergoing a rebuilding phase, is searching for a forward who can lead their offense in the long term. On the other hand, Brentford, known for investing in young talents, is considering the Portuguese as a potential replacement in their frontline.

Wolves have doubts about his future.

Despite the growing interest from these clubs, Wolves still have the final say on Silva's future. His contract with the English club ties him until 2026, giving Wolves a strong position in the negotiations. However, the excellent performance at UD Las Palmas could raise his market value, complicating the competition among interested clubs.

The upcoming summer transfer window will be crucial in determining Fabio Silva's future. If the offers materialize, the young forward could return to England with a leading role at one of the teams vying for his services.

Sounds about right with our scouting team.  He was complete dogshit at Wolves.

[Farmer Saint]

1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

Sounds about right with our scouting team.  He was complete dogshit at Wolves.

And at Rangers - this is bollocks, it's only cos he scored at the weekend against Barca.

Edited 2 December, 2024 by Farmer Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

56 minutes ago, Tommy Mulgrew said:

Striker alert:

 

Several Premier League teams are fighting over Fábio Silva

Fabio Silva, loaned to UD Las Palmas, could return to the Premier League as Wolves analyze his future.

The young forward Fabio Silva, owned by Wolves and currently on loan at UD Las Palmas, is attracting interest from Premier League teams due to his outstanding performance this season. Bournemouth, Southampton, and Brentford have joined the race to sign the Portuguese attacker, who has made a strong impression this season.

At just 22 years old, Silva has established himself as a key figure for the Canary Islands team, standing out for his mobility, goal-scoring instinct, and ability to pose a threat in the opponent's area. His performance has not only helped Las Palmas compete at the highest level but has also increased his value as one of the most interesting prospects in European football.

Bournemouth sees Fabio Silva as an opportunity to strengthen their attack, while Southampton, currently undergoing a rebuilding phase, is searching for a forward who can lead their offense in the long term. On the other hand, Brentford, known for investing in young talents, is considering the Portuguese as a potential replacement in their frontline.

Wolves have doubts about his future.

Despite the growing interest from these clubs, Wolves still have the final say on Silva's future. His contract with the English club ties him until 2026, giving Wolves a strong position in the negotiations. However, the excellent performance at UD Las Palmas could raise his market value, complicating the competition among interested clubs.

The upcoming summer transfer window will be crucial in determining Fabio Silva's future. If the offers materialize, the young forward could return to England with a leading role at one of the teams vying for his services.

I smell agent although Rasmus is stupid and gullible enough.

[Mr Nimbus]

On 28/11/2024 at 06:31, sambosa75 said:

I think there’s a player in Archer.  He’s fed off scraps for the main part.  If we got the ball into the forwards more often, and quicker, he’d be on the end of a lot more chances.  He’s got a good finish on him, bar penalties.

I'd agree with this. It's tiny margins (as there are with all strikers other than the elite.)

[Turkish]

Mark Bowen on signing Vestergaard

also a reminder that Hughes was sacked after getting 7 points from the first 10 games 

 

 

[Convict Colony]

I'm not even sure money grabbing agents and mercenary players are desperate enough to join this shit show.

 

[S-Clarke]

20 hours ago, Turkish said:

Mark Bowen on signing Vestergaard

also a reminder that Hughes was sacked after getting 7 points from the first 10 games 

 

 

Scary. Reed and Wilson were running the show at that point.

Wasn't Gao our owner at that point? I can't imagine him giving a comprehensive scouting report on Vestergaard or had even heard of him.

What a mess this club has been post Koeman. We just lurch from disaster to disaster.

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Scary. Reed and Wilson were running the show at that point.

Wasn't Gao our owner at that point? I can't imagine him giving a comprehensive scouting report on Vestergaard or had even heard of him.

What a mess this club has been post Koeman. We just lurch from disaster to disaster.

Yeah Goa came in summer of 2017 so had been here a year by then, he might have meant Kruger who was probably too busy with his five pledges to worry about potential signings. Didn't we spunk over £20m on Verstergaard too? A player Reed and WIlson wanted but the manager and coach said was shit, jesus wept.

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

Yeah Goa came in summer of 2017 so had been here a year by then, he might have meant Kruger who was probably too busy with his five pledges to worry about potential signings. Didn't we spunk over £20m on Verstergaard too? A player Reed and WIlson wanted but the manager and coach said was shit, jesus wept.

I think it was up to £22m. Elyounoussi was £18m.

The couple of signings that turned out decent from that piss up was Stu Armstrong and Danny Ings, and I bet you they were instigated by the managers recommendations more so than Reed and co.

[Gloucester Saint]

21 hours ago, Turkish said:

Mark Bowen on signing Vestergaard

also a reminder that Hughes was sacked after getting 7 points from the first 10 games 

 

 

Wow. just wow. Knew Reed was a wrong un but feel sorry for Hughes and Bowen there and glad he’s spoken out.

Ronald wouldn’t have played Vestergaard, in fact with his standing in the game Reed wouldn’t have dared to sign him behind his back. 

The board level at SFC has and continues to be absolutely rotten at the club post-2016. Amateurs playing at something they know nothing about. 

This is why Saints manager always need to be big names, to keep the board on their toes and energise the supporters. It’s astonishing how many are drinking the Lego Kool Aid at the moment and accepting abject failure.

Edited 6 December, 2024 by Gloucester Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

54 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Yeah Goa came in summer of 2017 so had been here a year by then, he might have meant Kruger who was probably too busy with his five pledges to worry about potential signings. Didn't we spunk over £20m on Verstergaard too? A player Reed and WIlson wanted but the manager and coach said was shit, jesus wept.

Even Freddie Kreuger wouldn’t have approved that ✍️. His nails would have messed up the doors on the Exec corridor though. Apt though, as post-2017 the club has been a nightmare on Britannia Rd for all of us fans.

Edited 6 December, 2024 by Gloucester Saint

[CB Fry]

21 hours ago, Turkish said:

Mark Bowen on signing Vestergaard

also a reminder that Hughes was sacked after getting 7 points from the first 10 games 

 

 

One of the Martinettes on here (can't remember which one) absolutely adamant that Martin is better than Mark Hughes.

Nope. Not on any level, not on any metric, not on any planet.

Even Mark Hughes at his shittest (which was with us) he is better than Russell Martin.

[Turkish]

28 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

One of the Martinettes on here (can't remember which one) absolutely adamant that Martin is better than Mark Hughes.

Nope. Not on any level, not on any metric, not on any planet.

Even Mark Hughes at his shittest (which was with us) he is better than Russell Martin.

Aren’t you forgetting the metrics of possession, so much love for the players, bravery and philosophy?

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

One of the Martinettes on here (can't remember which one) absolutely adamant that Martin is better than Mark Hughes.

Nope. Not on any level, not on any metric, not on any planet.

Even Mark Hughes at his shittest (which was with us) he is better than Russell Martin.

Clearly, that's why after leaving us he went on to manage...[checks internet]...League 2 Bradford City. And then got sacked. After 8 months.

Hmmm.

He was good once, but that was a long time before he joined Saints.

Edited 6 December, 2024 by Farmer Saint

[coalman]

40 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Clearly, that's why after leaving us he went on to manage...[checks internet]...League 2 Bradford City. And then got sacked. After 8 months.

Hmmm.

He was good once, but that was a long time before he joined Saints.

We should probably wait until Martin leaves us before making that comparison. Though in Mark Hughes' defence (which are words I never thought I'd utter) he did avoid relegation which seems like more than our current manager is going to be capable of. I would be very happy to be proven wrong there.

[Farmer Saint]

28 minutes ago, coalman said:

We should probably wait until Martin leaves us before making that comparison. Though in Mark Hughes' defence (which are words I never thought I'd utter) he did avoid relegation which seems like more than our current manager is going to be capable of. I would be very happy to be proven wrong there.

Very different teams though - he had Tadic, Davis, Romeu, JWP, Hojberg, Bertrand, Gabbiadini, Soares, Lemina, Yoshida, Austin, Boufal, who would probably all get into this side...sadly.

Edited 6 December, 2024 by Farmer Saint

[Ted Bates Statue]

3 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

This is why Saints manager always need to be big names, to keep the board on their toes and energise the supporters. It’s astonishing how many are drinking the Lego Kool Aid at the moment and accepting abject failure.

I think you've got a point there, although it's a bit chicken and egg now that we are a yo-yo club. If we could appoint Moyes we would have done so already.

The other thing is we had someone since Mark Hughes who was a fairly big name in terms of his CV. it was Ralph Hasenhuttl and he managed to get Vestergaard playing to a level whereby we were able to recover about 75% of his transfer fee. And meanwhile Hughes went sliding down the EFL in an attempt to demonstrate he wasn't completely washed-up.

I think it's really damning how Leicester signed some of our rejects in Vestergaard, Bertrand and Puel (harshly treated by us, but that's another conversation) and those defenders in particular were derided as some of their worst ever signings. Should have been a major warning as to how far behind our first XI really was.

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Very different teams though - he had Tadic, Davis, Romeu, JWP, Hojberg, Bertrand, Gabbiadini, Soares, Lemina, Yoshida, Austin, Boufal, who would probably all get into this side...sadly.

No probably about it, they would. Austin’s legs had gone by that point, and Lemina’s behaviour horrific, but otherwise that list of players really does illustrate the extent of decline since Ronald left. 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Clearly, that's why after leaving us he went on to manage...[checks internet]...League 2 Bradford City. And then got sacked. After 8 months.

Hmmm.

He was good once, but that was a long time before he joined Saints.

Oh Hughes was on his way down and Bowen got frustrated with the lack of drive. But Les pulling stunts like that won’t have helped. Bloke who has scored the winner in European finals knows a bit more about the game than the former boss of Bishops Storford.

As you say, was a good manager once. Martin so far has wallowed in mid-table with Mk and Swansea, conceding 60-70 goals a season. Happens to enjoy the same vape flavour or have the same barber as Rasmus so gets the SFC gig. Thanks for Wembley but still conceded 60+ goals along the way and as for the defending this season…

Mark Hughes the player and manager is just a distant dream to Russell. Russell will be managing and spouting the same empty crap in League 2 soon enough.

[Turkish]

4 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Clearly, that's why after leaving us he went on to manage...[checks internet]...League 2 Bradford City. And then got sacked. After 8 months.

Hmmm.

He was good once, but that was a long time before he joined Saints.

Interesting comment on Hughes sacking at Bradford. Sound familiar?

On 4 October 2023, Hughes was sacked as manager with Bradford sitting 18th in League Two.^[186] It was felt by the Bradford City players that Hughes was trying to shoehorn Premier League tactics into the League Two side, and this ultimately contributed to the lack of success in his second season

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Oh Hughes was on his way down and Bowen got frustrated with the lack of drive. But Les pulling stunts like that won’t have helped. Bloke who has scored the winner in European finals knows a bit more about the game than the former boss of Bishops Storford.

As you say, was a good manager once. Martin so far has wallowed in mid-table with Mk and Swansea, conceding 60-70 goals a season. Happens to enjoy the same vape flavour or have the same barber as Rasmus so gets the SFC gig. Thanks for Wembley but still conceded 60+ goals along the way and as for the defending this season…

Mark Hughes the player and manager is just a distant dream to Russell. Russell will be managing and spouting the same empty crap in League 2 soon enough.

Indeed. Mark Hughes at his shittest (which is what he was with us) is still infinitely better than Russell Martin.

When Russell Martin has taken 4 seperate clubs into the top 10 of the Premier League the fan club can come back to me. 

[LGTL]

Russ can only dream of being anywhere near as successful as Hughes. They’re in different stratospheres. I think some doughnuts are forgetting we have 5 points from 14 games 😂😂

[Ted Bates Statue]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Interesting comment on Hughes sacking at Bradford. Sound familiar?

On 4 October 2023, Hughes was sacked as manager with Bradford sitting 18th in League Two.^[186] It was felt by the Bradford City players that Hughes was trying to shoehorn Premier League tactics into the League Two side, and this ultimately contributed to the lack of success in his second season

I hadn't looked into the circumstances into his departure much, beyond a glance at the table. When I first read the above, my first thought went "what kind of PL tactics could they have been? Kick ball in opposition goal, stop ball from going into own goal" and then it occurred to me that you might be alluding to parallels with our present-day situation that I hadn't yet considered.

Some good quotes below this article which support the wikipedia comment: https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportlatest/23970537.mark-hughes-breaks-silence-bradford-city-sacking/

"I liked Hughes he is a gent but the way he had us playing nearly sent me to sleep"

"Terrible to watch week after week playing with 1 striker up front and the defence playing keep ball passing from one to another in their own half"

"The nonsensical change to three at the back, which simply confused virtually every player... meant his sacking was, reluctantly, deserved"

 

...I think I get it now.

Edited 6 December, 2024 by Ted Bates Statue

[Saint Scott]