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Osvaldorama

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43 minutes ago, madge said:

On talk sport this week I think it was darren bent who was saying that Martin comes across as very arrogant and stand off ish in his interviews. I Get the team worked hard but working hard hasn’t got us a point.. if the teams confidence has been lifted by that performance and we go and best Stoke and Everton, then it’s a start. But lose against Everton and it’s totally game over.


No chance we beat Everton. We can’t stop crosses. 
 

Simple cross onto DCL’s head a couple of times and they’ll win 2-0 or something. They’re much better than us under Dyche

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Football Special

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2 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:


No chance we beat Everton. We can’t stop crosses. 
 

Simple cross onto DCL’s head a couple of times and they’ll win 2-0 or something. They’re much better than us under Dyche

We have beaten them already this season 😉 

But agree with your score prediction 

We've got a big game before then though 

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It does feel like we are kind of marking time at the moment. I am not RMs biggest critic but I think everyone can see now that a change is going to be inevitable before too much longer and it feels like if we leave it another couple of games, it just makes it even harder for his successor to achieve anything this season.

Regrettably, I would make the change now, although obviously it does depend on getting a better and more experienced replacement in which is not a given by any means.

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Whitey Grandad

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50 minutes ago, Andrew Watson said:

Very lucky that Haaland was not at his best,he would have scored 5 on another day. At the end of the day it is another loss,but I am sure that some on here will see positives like that clown of a manager,you really could not make it up.

Being relieved that it was only one goal is like being glad that you’ve only been shot once when they could have emptied the whole magazine into you. The end result is the same.

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So very nice for Match of the Day to give us some tactical analysis and to be complimentary. Quite rare.

But to do so pushes an agenda that over-writes the fact that we could have lost by 4-5 if Haaland had not had an off-day.

They were right to highlight poor decision making in the final third as a deciding factor, because that is the flip side of the coin with Russball. We fundamentally cannot defend and cannot make chances. 

As a footballing entity, we are ineffective. 

The stats table they showed for Ipswich in the prior game, show that for us as well please...... Call them doomed, then praise us? Be consistent lads.

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Whitey Grandad

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4 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

So very nice for Match of the Day to give us some tactical analysis and to be complimentary. Quite rare.

But to do so pushes an agenda that over-writes the fact that we could have lost by 4-5 if Haaland had not had an off-day.

They were right to highlight poor decision making in the final third as a deciding factor, because that is the flip side of the coin with Russball. We fundamentally cannot defend and cannot make chances. 

As a footballing entity, we are ineffective. 

Indeed. Fair words butter no parsnips.

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warsash saint

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Just got back ... my thoughts.

  • Fans were great today - the numbers & despite not much to cheer, i thought we were in great voice
  • There are most tourists at City now then Utd!
  • Lallana needs to start - even if we get only 60 mins a game from him
  • Much maligned, I though Jack Stephens did not put a foot wrong today - in fact the whole back 5 put in a shift
  • Can't believe how big the whole Etihad complex is .. how anyone can complete with the money they are spunking over the place!
  • The British road network is fucked & not fit for purpose - miles of diversions for roadworks / the diversions full of roadworks🤬

 

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warsash saint

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5 hours ago, verlaine1979 said:

City had 22 shots on goal. We had 2 chances on the break, which weren't so much created as given up by a City team camped outside our penalty area. Can't see why anyone would be taking encouragement from that.

From arguably the best team in Europe!  Everyone expecting we concede 6 or 7.  Ramsdale has not had to make any worldies either.  Yeah i am pissed off we lost but was encouraged by the display 

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Some of the football was easy on the eye but in truth City didn't need to get out of first gear and it played out like a training game for them. 

I've seen us have plucky defeats and then follow them up with absolute horrorshows before. I have no doubt Everton will ease to a victory next weekend. 

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Lone ranger

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Why would you be praised or even admired for sticking to a principle if the factual evidence, the opinions of experienced experts and the constantly repeated views of a host of supporters agree that it’s the wrong principle. The Man City style of football is essentially boring but when executed by some of the greatest players in the world is fine because it brings top of the table results and the individual players skills are a joy to watch. When the Saints try to copy the style with players who are well meaning and doing their best but essentially of Championship standard we get beaten week after week, rarely look likely to score as opposed to creating a half-chance and have a kamikaze style of defending. Please could we just play simple direct football with commitment, maybe get a few wins and maybe even avoid relegation. Pep’s praise must surely be just kindness to a protege of his style who has failed to deliver a single win in the premier league. Is it too late to play with a view to winning a game?

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Saint_clark

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10 hours ago, trousers said:

I think it was more down to City having a below par day rather than us giving them a "hard game" TBH, but we don't have to agree on that viewpoint, of course.

Martin is showing his naivety again. Pep did him a favour by instructing his players to do the bare minimum to get through the game with champions league middle of last week and a tough EFL cup game against Tottenham again this week. He'll be over the moon that they got the three points and his players will have barely expended any energy to do so.

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Cabrone

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Meaningless game and result. Like putting a tiger up against a puppy. City just kept us at arms length and took the points.

Everton is what matters. We simply need to get moving or we are done for the season.

Play Onachu, Archer, Dibling, Lallana and Fernandez and at least give us a chance in that game.

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macca155

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I was fortunate to be busy yesterday, so was confined to quick checks on the score. I didn't have to invest emotionally energy into the game.

Watched MOTD and it just feels like we were being patronised by City.

Oh well done little Southampton, you gave us a such a hard game.

Well f**k off.

I take zero solace from that game. They couldn't even be arsed to give us a spanking. Nice easy game for them.

Whatever positives there were, and I accept there were a few, does not disguise the fact that we got beat..... again.

Bad mood.

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Proof is also in the pudding of what I've been saying all season. City have a 1-0 lead, does Pep Guardiola make five changes to completely disrupt his team. No, he makes two changes, Ilkay Gundogan in the 86th minute and John Stones in the 97th. The starting 11 that Guardiola picked were able to see out the victory and get the three points.

This fixture was also between midweek fixtures for City. Please learn and copy this one Russell Martin.

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Midfield_General

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1 hour ago, Cabrone said:

Play Onachu, Archer, Dibling, Lallana and Fernandez and at least give us a chance in that game.

Add in KWP, Sugawara, Downes and Ramsdale and I still maintain that there is  enough quality in that core to compete. I think we’re weak at centre half generally but if that core gets picked every week, properly coached and managed there is enough ability there to pick up some points against the weaker sides.

It’s how those resources are being deployed that’s the problem. But then we know that. 

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13 hours ago, Football Special said:

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Its November in a few days, I've been waiting since mid August to "have some fun and be all right" so when does it start ? All the platitudes from Pep and RM probably creaming himself at the "praise" will mean absolutely jack shit if we do not beat Everton and then Wolves. There wont be any hiding place if Everton roll us over next week. 

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3 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Its November in a few days, I've been waiting since mid August to "have some fun and be all right" so when does it start ? All the platitudes from Pep and RM probably creaming himself at the "praise" will mean absolutely jack shit if we do not beat Everton and then Wolves. There wont be any hiding place if Everton roll us over next week. 

There will - we'll be told to trust the process and so it will go on, and on, and on until Russ is removed. He means well and clearly believes in his flawed process but we need to let him impose his vanity project on another club because he's doing untold damage to ours'.

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6 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Martin is showing his naivety again. Pep did him a favour by instructing his players to do the bare minimum to get through the game with champions league middle of last week and a tough EFL cup game against Tottenham again this week. He'll be over the moon that they got the three points and his players will have barely expended any energy to do so.

That was my take too.  On the surface it was a plucky performance; an honourable defeat, complete with praise from Pep.   Scratch the surface though and it looked like Pep’s boys coasted to a win without getting out of third gear, even if our five-at-the-back defence dug in well most of the afternoon.

it reinforced my view that that Saints have enough quality to still have a slim hope of staying up if the players are unshackled from Martin’s style of play.   Fernandes, despite the one misplaced pass underlined what a gem we have on our hands. Dibling had moments in the first half but his substitution was justified -  at 18 he might need resting after so many high pressure games.    Harwood-Bellis and Downes were both impressive; Archer, operating on scraps, made several incisive runs and hit the woodwork with our one genuine chance.    KWP and Ramsdale were up to standard and Airibo once again showed strength, touch and control in his cameo.

Everton and Wolves await.  3 or 4 points a minimum pick up.  Surely RM is shown the door otherwise.
 

 

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Pamplemousse

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7 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Martin is showing his naivety again. Pep did him a favour by instructing his players to do the bare minimum to get through the game with champions league middle of last week and a tough EFL cup game against Tottenham again this week. He'll be over the moon that they got the three points and his players will have barely expended any energy to do so.

None of that is true. Pep said afterwards that they had to run a lot more than usual.

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Convict Colony

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Yeah am seeing some flippant comments without people looking into the details 

I thought we played well, could of scored 1 goal with better composure, thought everyone did well, city should of had a few more booked by another ref who is using their commonsense when it's the opposition fouling or the rules against us.

I've got a feeling we are getting closer to a win and then I would expect a few more to come after.

Major concern for me is goalscoring, really feel we need tall Paul in there somehow with archer working off him.

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5 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Yeah am seeing some flippant comments without people looking into the details 

I thought we played well, could of scored 1 goal with better composure, thought everyone did well, city should of had a few more booked by another ref who is using their commonsense when it's the opposition fouling or the rules against us.

I've got a feeling we are getting closer to a win and then I would expect a few more to come after.

Major concern for me is goalscoring, really feel we need tall Paul in there somehow with archer working off him.

On the flip side City could have score 4 or 5 with better composure - the sitters they missed were easier chances than ours'.

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15 minutes ago, saintant said:

On the flip side City could have score 4 or 5 with better composure - the sitters they missed were easier chances than ours'.

I can't believe than anyone on this site doesn't know what would have happen if Archer had scored. City would have simply gone through the gears to regain the lead just as the do with every other team. That's to be expected, you have to catch them on a very bad day to beat them.

Now in fairness, no matter that City took it easy, Saints could have equalised at the end and the momentum was with them. That's the way to do it, survive and then hit them when they don't have time to respond. In that regard RM and the players deserve some praise.

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tdmickey3

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Yesterday’s game is totally irrelevant, the previous game shitshows served up are the real barometer of just how deluded and out of depth Martin is.

Its frankly staggering how the club continue with this embarrassment 

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6 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Of course he did, he's going to praise any manager that tries to copy him.

Or maybe because it’s literally only Arsenal (and Inter if we’re doing all comps) who’ve gone to the Etihad and done better than us this season. Compared to Ipswich going there and being 3-0 down in 16 minutes, we have actually done alright.

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I find it really hard to read too much into games like yesterday, it's irrelevant if we toss it away against Leicester, Brentford, Ipswich, Forest etc. Means fuck all.

I don't care if we play well and Pep gushes or pundits gush, the reality is 0 points. We head into November on 1 point. Absolutley pitiful by even the most negative supporters expectations.

I take nothing from yesterday because it's always the way. 'Underdog does well against big side''.

When we got relegated we beat Man City at home, so how we perform in these games means fuck all - it's a glorified friendly.

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16 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Or maybe because it’s literally only Arsenal (and Inter if we’re doing all comps) who’ve gone to the Etihad and done better than us this season. Compared to Ipswich going there and being 3-0 down in 16 minutes, we have actually done alright.

1-0,3-0, 9-0, it’s still no points.Unfortunately we won’t be going to the Etihad or any of the other big stadiums next season…

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warsash saint

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I wonder if the chumps on here want to get some perspective?

Scenarios;

  • Saints lose by one goal - Martin is shit, tactics were shit, line up was shit, City had injuries, could not be arsed
  • Saints get trashed - Martin is shit, tactics were shit, line up was shit, City had injuries, could not be arsed
  • Saints win -  Martin is shit, tactics were shit, line up was shit, City had injuries, could not be arsed
  • Saints draw - Martin is shit, tactics were shit, line up was shit, City had injuries, could not be arsed

Conclusion- any result posters on here would have posted the same thing over & over & over & over & over again 💤

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