Man City 1-0 Southampton - Match Thread

[Teamsaint1]

Probably did what they could today. Stay in the game, at. 1-0 there is always a chance.

But the next two games are the real thing. Time for excuses runs out very soon. 

[Suhari]

31 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Not getting humped feels like a win. COYR

That's what she said.

[david in sweden]

29 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

That Ipswich equaliser against us was so damaging, would be right in the mix had we held out.

Even more so if you add in last week's last second goal.

So close, yet so far.

there have been a few games that were equally unlucky in different ways. 

We know that the squad falls short of Prem. quality, but RM was only able to play the same start side in the first two games.

Losing 0-1 to Forest, and also against Leicester at the death are typical examples of bad luck getting worse. 

[saintant]

1 minute ago, david in sweden said:

there have been a few games that were equally unlucky in different ways. 

We know that the squad falls short of Prem. quality, but RM was only able to play the same start side in the first two games.

Losing 0-1 to Forest, and also against Leicester at the death are typical examples of bad luck getting worse. 

In no way were we unlucky to lose against Forest. When quoting our own bad luck in games you also have to factor in the bad luck of our opponents.

[trousers]

18 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

TBF, their opinion is probably more valued than the freaks we have on this forum.

Self-deprecation will get you nowhere on here, sir. I should know....

Edited 26 October, 2024 by trousers

[Farmer Saint]

7 minutes ago, Suhari said:

That's what she said.

 

[Wade Garrett]

59 minutes ago, OneMrsWallace said:

Yes we lost as expected but the lack of ambition in the last 10 minutes was depressingly familiar. I would think RM needs a minimum of 4 points from the next two games to save himself. Unless the board have agreed to stick with him whatever happens this season. 

The board are pretty close to missing the boat.

They will deserve relegation.

[verlaine1979]

City had 22 shots on goal. We had 2 chances on the break, which weren't so much created as given up by a City team camped outside our penalty area. Can't see why anyone would be taking encouragement from that.

[Football Special]

31 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

If City had felt the need they would have switched out of second gear.

Right you are, why didn't they do that and put the game out of sight then? Tall Pauls header goes in at the end and no time left for second gears 

[badgerx16]

3 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Right you are, why didn't they do that and put the game out of sight then? Tall Pauls header goes in at the end and no time left for second gears 

Alternatively, why didn't we try something more positive before the final 5 minutes ? Our game plan was to pack our defence, nothing more. City's midfield will have had harder games on the training ground, and the biggest chance of our scoring was their keeper losing concentration through boredom.

Edited 26 October, 2024 by badgerx16

[The Kraken]

2 minutes ago, verlaine1979 said:

City had 22 shots on goal. We had 2 chances on the break, which weren't so much created as given up by a City team camped outside our penalty area. Can't see why anyone would be taking encouragement from that.

Yep. And in any other day Haaland could’ve had a hattrick.

Certainly not going to criticise Martin after that, Man City away is a hiding to nothing. But also nothing to get excited about today either. I don’t see ‘only’ losing by one goal to be any sort of positive.

[trousers]

13 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Right you are, why didn't they do that and put the game out of sight then? Tall Pauls header goes in at the end and no time left for second gears 

It's a reasonable question, but I don't think anyone could have watched that game and concluded anything other than at no point did Man City bust a gut and could've done more if they'd wanted to. We'll probably never know for sure why they chose not to.

Edited 26 October, 2024 by trousers

[Football Special]

29 minutes ago, Teamsaint1 said:

Probably did what they could today. Stay in the game, at. 1-0 there is always a chance.

But the next two games are the real thing. Time for excuses runs out very soon. 

I think we're down regardless but yeah lose those two and it speeds up the final nail 

[Football Special]

2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Alternatively, why didn't we try something more positive before the final 5 minutes ? Our game plan was to pack our defence, nothing more. City's midfield will have had harder games on the training ground, and the biggest chance of our scoring was their keeper losing concentration through boredom.

Clearly they were trying to stay in the game on the off chance one of our forwards could take a half chance. Archer, Onuacho and Armstrong all had opportunities 

[Osvaldorama]

All a bit fucking pointless really, isn’t it?

 

Relegated in October is a new low. Even for us. 

[Thripp87]

Scenes after yet another defeat are pathetic. We go around acting as if we are fortunate to be in the league and on the same pitch as city. We’ve been in the prem about 25 years. We’re not Luton town ffs.

Russell is literally creaming himself post match. Someone needs to tell him we lost, again. 

[badgerx16]

2 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Clearly they were trying to stay in the game on the off chance one of our forwards could take a half chance. Archer, Onuacho and Armstrong all had opportunities 

And there is the problem, we don't have strikers capable of delivering that type of performance. None of them is clinical enough.

[InvictaSaint]

From BBC Solent interview:

AB: “maybe a week when you can start the week without headlines about you keeping your job.” 
RM: “I don’t know, we got beat so…with people who lack understanding or knowledge of the club and what we’re trying to do or build…then I’m sure they will l come out and enjoy themselves but I don’t focus on it.”

Why does RM have to sound so arrogant and dismissive of anyone who dares criticise him? No wins and 1 point from 27 pal. What is it you’re building that we mere mortals cannot fathom?? 

 

[Midfield_General]

In another season - one where we're doing alright - that would feel like a pretty decent result. Didn't fold after going a goal down early, defended pretty well (aside from the goal which was poor), carved out one or two chances and hit the bar, rattled them a little bit in the last 10 minutes, and by keeping it to 1-0 stayed in with a puncher's chance right to the end. There are plenty of teams who'd take a one goal defeat from City away if it was offered. 

When you're where we are though, unfortunately it doesn't really mean much. Even if you go in fearing the worst and expecting a drubbing that doesn't come, a respectable defeat is still just another defeat and another week with no more points on the board. Honestly, they didn't really need to get out of second gear and regardless of how many pretty little little triangles we managed in meaningless areas, they just pinned us back or held us at arm's length to get the three points without expending too much energy. 

If it felt like the positives from that respectable defeat were something that we'd learn from and build on, then maybe it would feel more significant. But unless we use this to work towards a settled team, and get wins from Everton and/or Wolves, it doesn't mean anything. 

I want to take some encouragement from it, but really all I feel is relief that that fixture is out of the way and we haven't been pumped by 6 or 7, which I thought was on the cards when they scored from their first attack of the match. 

Edited 26 October, 2024 by Midfield_General

[badgerx16]

3 minutes ago, InvictaSaint said:

From BBC Solent interview:

AB: “maybe a week when you can start the week without headlines about you keeping your job.” 
RM: “I don’t know, we got beat so…with people who lack understanding or knowledge of the club and what we’re trying to do or build…then I’m sure they will l come out and enjoy themselves but I don’t focus on it.”

Why does RM have to sound so arrogant and dismissive of anyone who dares criticise him? No wins and 1 point from 27 pal. What is it you’re building that we mere mortals cannot fathom?? 

 

He is reinventing football, but nobody else has yet realised.

[trousers]

3 minutes ago, InvictaSaint said:

From BBC Solent interview:

AB: “maybe a week when you can start the week without headlines about you keeping your job.” 
RM: “I don’t know, we got beat so…with people who lack understanding or knowledge of the club and what we’re trying to do or build…then I’m sure they will l come out and enjoy themselves but I don’t focus on it.”

Why does RM have to sound so arrogant and dismissive of anyone who dares criticise him? No wins and 1 point from 27 pal. What is it you’re building that we mere mortals cannot fathom?? 

 

"I don't focus on it"

Says the bloke who makes a barbed comment on it in every interview....

[Wade Garrett]

6 minutes ago, InvictaSaint said:

From BBC Solent interview:

AB: “maybe a week when you can start the week without headlines about you keeping your job.” 
RM: “I don’t know, we got beat so…with people who lack understanding or knowledge of the club and what we’re trying to do or build…then I’m sure they will l come out and enjoy themselves but I don’t focus on it.”

Why does RM have to sound so arrogant and dismissive of anyone who dares criticise him? No wins and 1 point from 27 pal. What is it you’re building that we mere mortals cannot fathom?? 

 

It’s because he’s a fucking arrogant cunt.

 

[Lighthouse]

2 minutes ago, trousers said:

"I don't focus on it"

Says the bloke who makes a barbed comment on it in every interview....

I think if people were coming up to me saying, "hey, don’t you think you ought to be sacked?" Every week, I’d probably get a bit fed up and sarky about it too.

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, Midfield_General said:

Username checks out ✔️ 

[saintant]

1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

I think if people were coming up to me saying, "hey, don’t you think you ought to be sacked?" Every week, I’d probably get a bit fed up and sarky about it too.

He's a very well paid football manager who knows how it works - with one point from twenty seven the press, pundits and fans are rightly going to question his position. If he doesn't like that he either needs to improve results or find another job. 

[Midfield_General]

6 minutes ago, trousers said:

"I don't focus on it"

Says the bloke who makes a barbed comment on it in every interview....

Reminds me of that bit from I, Partridge when he's talking about whether it bothers him when people shout A-Ha at him in the street.

"I don't mind. It's fine. It doesn't bother me at all. Honestly, I couldn't give a fucking shit."  

[Lee On Solent Saint]

11 minutes ago, InvictaSaint said:

From BBC Solent interview:

AB: “maybe a week when you can start the week without headlines about you keeping your job.” 
RM: “I don’t know, we got beat so…with people who lack understanding or knowledge of the club and what we’re trying to do or build…then I’m sure they will l come out and enjoy themselves but I don’t focus on it.”

Why does RM have to sound so arrogant and dismissive of anyone who dares criticise him? No wins and 1 point from 27 pal. What is it you’re building that we mere mortals cannot fathom?? 

 

I have understanding and knowledge of my club, and the club now is a pale reflection of the club I fell in love with. Just fuck off Martin, had enough of you spouting off your bullshit after every game.

[Oldandtired]

Please somebody enlighten me. What exactly Are we trying to do or build here? Because I am absolutely budgerigared if I know.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

Don't disagree. I think he needs to go as he's alienated too many people, but it's a decent enough result.

It's zero points. As results go it's as bad as it gets.

[Vancouver Saint]

Played well today. Clearly out-classed and lucky it wasn't more...but fair dues, did try to play football within our limits and played as a team.

STILL the end result is the same - another loss and zero points. 

Think RM is a decent bloke but his main attribute seems to be finding innovative ways to lose games of football and still keep his job.

Can't go on forever.

 

[derry]

Patently Martin doesn't get what football is about. Fans cheer wildly and the players celebrate when their team scores whereas I've never seen fans and players celebrating after twenty passes that threaten nobody and end up with the keeper having never got in the opponents half. Maybe it's him that should be looking at another occupation. Until they give points for passes i'm passing on this garbage.😊

[Whitey Grandad]

17 minutes ago, InvictaSaint said:

From BBC Solent interview:

AB: “maybe a week when you can start the week without headlines about you keeping your job.” 
RM: “I don’t know, we got beat so…with people who lack understanding or knowledge of the club and what we’re trying to do or build…then I’m sure they will l come out and enjoy themselves but I don’t focus on it.”

Why does RM have to sound so arrogant and dismissive of anyone who dares criticise him? No wins and 1 point from 27 pal. What is it you’re building that we mere mortals cannot fathom?? 

 

Well I don't lack understanding or knowledge and I can see that he's way out of his depth. 

[pingpong]

We are one of the best teams in the league.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/clyg5e7yj02o

 

[Whitey Grandad]

2 minutes ago, pingpong said:

We are one of the best teams in the league.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/clyg5e7yj02o

 

Best to play against. 

[saintant]

1 minute ago, pingpong said:

We are one of the best teams in the league.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/clyg5e7yj02o

 

One of the dafter things Pep has come out with. He knows full well it is nonsense.

[Baz Fl]

We were told to take encouragement when we beat City at our place and then went back to losing games against everyone around us. Not so interested in heroic defeats but really hoping to win a game in this league, 22 currently 

[jamesfp1]

Felt like a point tbh

[LGTL]

45 minutes ago, Thripp87 said:

Scenes after yet another defeat are pathetic. We go around acting as if we are fortunate to be in the league and on the same pitch as city. We’ve been in the prem about 25 years. We’re not Luton town ffs.

Russell is literally creaming himself post match. Someone needs to tell him we lost, again. 

Agree with you. We’ve been in this league a very long time over the years. The way some of our fans and manager go on, it’s like we’re oh so lucky to be here. They forget that the point is actually to win football matches. 

[coalman]

41 minutes ago, trousers said:

"I don't focus on it"

Says the bloke who makes a barbed comment on it in every interview....

Is that the sound of someone leaving the fence? 😉

[Oldandtired]

2 minutes ago, jamesfp1 said:

Felt like a point tbh

But it wasn't. I bet to Russ it felt like three... but again it wasn't, it was a big fat zilch.

[Midfield_General]

27 minutes ago, pingpong said:

We are one of the best teams in the league.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/clyg5e7yj02o

 

He can fuck off 'n all. Patronising twat. 

[madge]

57 minutes ago, InvictaSaint said:

From BBC Solent interview:

AB: “maybe a week when you can start the week without headlines about you keeping your job.” 
RM: “I don’t know, we got beat so…with people who lack understanding or knowledge of the club and what we’re trying to do or build…then I’m sure they will l come out and enjoy themselves but I don’t focus on it.”

Why does RM have to sound so arrogant and dismissive of anyone who dares criticise him? No wins and 1 point from 27 pal. What is it you’re building that we mere mortals cannot fathom?? 

 

On talk sport this week I think it was darren bent who was saying that Martin comes across as very arrogant and stand off ish in his interviews. I Get the team worked hard but working hard hasn’t got us a point.. if the teams confidence has been lifted by that performance and we go and best Stoke and Everton, then it’s a start. But lose against Everton and it’s totally game over.

[trousers]

57 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I think if people were coming up to me saying, "hey, don’t you think you ought to be sacked?" Every week, I’d probably get a bit fed up and sarky about it too.

Yes, fair point, but why blatantly lie about it by saying he's not focused on it, when he obviously is? 

Edited 26 October, 2024 by trousers

[trousers]

54 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Reminds me of that bit from I, Partridge when he's talking about whether it bothers him when people shout A-Ha at him in the street.

"I don't mind. It's fine. It doesn't bother me at all. Honestly, I couldn't give a fucking shit."  

Indeed 😂

[Football Special]

Good away support today , got behind the team, hats off to the 3000+ who travelled - recognised the effort put in by the side at the end 

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/K6YtQbxEYMacodDE/

[Miltonaggro]

Lest we forget..

 

[kitch]

Weird take for some, but my thought is that it's actually worse now than if we'd been spanked 5-0. Nobody expected us to come away with anything, so to have come away having given them a 'game' (an honourable defeat) leaves RM with a bit more credit in the bank, despite the fact that yet again we've come away with nil point. 

In the short term, an encouraging result albeit against a slightly-misfiring Citeh. In the long term, a stay of execution and our path for the season remains unchanged. Somehow only Wolves are currently worse than us, and they'll pull the trigger on GoN before we do with RM.

 

[Toussaint]

1 hour ago, saintant said:

He's a very well paid football manager who knows how it works - with one point from twenty seven the press, pundits and fans are rightly going to question his position. If he doesn't like that he either needs to improve results or find another job. 

He won’t need to find another job, he will never need to work again after winning tile Rasmus lottery.

[Harry_SFC]

5 minutes ago, kitch said:

Weird take for some, but my thought is that it's actually worse now than if we'd been spanked 5-0. Nobody expected us to come away with anything, so to have come away having given them a 'game' (an honourable defeat) leaves RM with a bit more credit in the bank, despite the fact that yet again we've come away with nil point. 

In the short term, an encouraging result albeit against a slightly-misfiring Citeh. In the long term, a stay of execution and our path for the season remains unchanged. Somehow only Wolves are currently worse than us, and they'll pull the trigger on GoN before we do with RM.

 

Wolves are above us and despite being in the bottom three don't look that bad. They've played Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Newcastle, Brighton and Villa already. 

Edited 26 October, 2024 by Harry_SFC

[kitch]

11 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Wolves are above us and despite being in the bottom three don't look that bad. They've played Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Newcastle, Brighton and Villa already. 

Ah nuts, did they squeeze a point today? They were behind when I last looked.