Man City 1-0 Southampton - Match Thread

[OttawaSaint]

1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

It's where we were predicted to finish by everyone - papers, bookies, OPTA - and yet we have fans annoyed that we lost 1-0 at possibly the best team in the World.

Some of our fans are utter knob heads.

We're not annoyed at that. We're annoyed that we can hold City to just one goal but in the games that actually count we shipped easy goals to Brentford, Ipswich, Leicester and Forest. 

Is this that hard to understand?

[Convict Colony]

2 minutes ago, Andy Hill said:

Bottom and deserve to be. Picking Stephens must be a sackable offence.

i didnt see stephens do anything bad today, think its important to judge on each performance not just a whimsical narrative.

[OneMrsWallace]

2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Yeah, but we all expected to be relegated before the season started anyway - we were favourites. If that's your attitude I guess we may as well not play the remaining games.

Yes we lost as expected but the lack of ambition in the last 10 minutes was depressingly familiar. I would think RM needs a minimum of 4 points from the next two games to save himself. Unless the board have agreed to stick with him whatever happens this season. 

[HKsaint]

Let’s celebrate 

[saintant]

1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

It's where we were predicted to finish by everyone - papers, bookies, OPTA - and yet we have fans annoyed that we lost 1-0 at possibly the best team in the World.

Some of our fans are utter knob heads.

Yes, we were predicted to finish in the relegation spots but some of our fans expected more than one point at this stage after a reasonably easy run of games with some winnable ones. Doesn't make us knob heads, just means we have a different take on it to you which we are entitled to. 

[Farmer Saint]

1 minute ago, CB Fry said:

Tick that off your predictable response bingo card everyone.

1 point from 9 is shite. Playing Manchester City is a complete irrelevance.

[Oldandtired]

5 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Yeah, but we all expected to be relegated before the season started anyway - we were favourites. If that's your attitude I guess we may as well not play the remaining games.

Yes, but we all expected to at least give it a go, not become the pile of dogshit we have under this manager. I wouldn’t mind if we went for it tooth and nail but we have become the total southern softies of the league. No fight, no passion, no nothing except managerial crap by the bucketload.

[Colinjb]

3 minutes ago, Edmonton Saint said:

Martin -“  incredibly proud. We hurt them a bit , keep up this aggression and spirit we will be fine “

He truly does believe his own bullshit.

[Sunglasses Ron]

That Ipswich equaliser against us was so damaging, would be right in the mix had we held out. Even more so if you add in last week's last second goal.

So close, yet so far.

[Sheaf Saint]

Just now, OneMrsWallace said:

Yes we lost as expected but the lack of ambition in the last 10 minutes was depressingly familiar. I would think RM needs a minimum of 4 points from the next two games to save himself. Unless the board have agreed to stick with him whatever happens this season. 

Eh? We actually looked like we were trying to get an equaliser in injury time, and had the City defence pegged back more than we had managed in the whole game up til that point.

[Farmer Saint]

2 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

We're not annoyed at that. We're annoyed that we can hold City to just one goal but in the games that actually count we shipped easy goals to Brentford, Ipswich, Leicester and Forest. 

Is this that hard to understand?

Ah, ok, cool, cos there's been loads of comments about the fact that this is the worst result we could have etc.

Brentford and Forest we were shite, but it was early in the season. Ipswich was unlucky but shit defending from a corner, and Leicester we were down to 10 men and got arse-raped by the ref.

[Nemi]

11 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

As predicted, do reasonably well against a top club and get nothing, we'll be shite against the rubbish teams.

Exactly we’ll be awful against Everton next week

[Farmer Saint]

4 minutes ago, OneMrsWallace said:

Yes we lost as expected but the lack of ambition in the last 10 minutes was depressingly familiar. I would think RM needs a minimum of 4 points from the next two games to save himself. Unless the board have agreed to stick with him whatever happens this season. 

Don't disagree. I think he needs to go as he's alienated too many people, but it's a decent enough result.

[Lighthouse]

Just now, Colinjb said:

He truly does believe his own bullshit.

Heaven forbid he should say something positive and back his players. What do you want him to say, "We're sh*te, we'll probably lose the next game 6-0, this team's definitely getting relegated and I should be sacked!"

These are media trained interviews, I'm not sure why you're expecting him to say different.

[adrian lord]

20 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I bet you £10k they won't.

The OP was joking. 

[Farmer Saint]

Just now, adrian lord said:

The OP was joking. 

But it wasn't funny?

[aintforever]

Not getting humped feels like a win. COYR

[Saint_clark]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

I used to love those days, long balls to a huge lumbering striker, monkey chanting at the blacks, smoking mandatory for all over 7's, 2 day weeks and nonce's allowed to abuse whoever they wanted as they are just "the dirty bloke round the corner". Those were the days.

Now you're talking.

[Nordic Saint]

Just now, Sunglasses Ron said:

That Ipswich equaliser against us was so damaging, would be right in the mix had we held out. Even more so if you add in last week's last second goal.

So close, yet so far.

That Ipswich point is certainly not to be sneered at. It's the only one we've got from our opening 9 games, which means we can all breathe a huge sigh of relief as we're on course for 4 points at the end of the season rather than none. 

[lambtiss]

25 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

They were playing sides not remotely close to Man City in ability.

But we didn't show that backbone against either of Ipswich or Leicester, when it mattered as against today when it didn't 

[Saint Fan CaM]

Make no mistake, this is not brave football - it’s damage limitation football and that’s why it’s it’s so boring / predictable. And if the players are being brave, then the result is a bunch of injuries that will also hurt us - like Downes getting clattered today without any help from the Ref. Thats what Russ demands - draw the opposition onto you and release the ball last minute (but you might get clattered).

The fact we’re now bottom, with one point from ??? just shows the system is simply not working. And he’s had enough time to see if his experiment will work, so how much longer???

Bore off elsewhere Russ - I just don’t like what we do 80% of the time. How’s that stat for you?

Edited 26 October, 2024 by Saint Fan CaM

[badgerx16]

11 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

i didnt see stephens do anything bad today,......

I didn't see Stephens do anything today.

[Miltonaggro]

29 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Trust the process.

Mussolini 1940…

[Colinjb]

11 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Heaven forbid he should say something positive and back his players. What do you want him to say, "We're sh*te, we'll probably lose the next game 6-0, this team's definitely getting relegated and I should be sacked!"

These are media trained interviews, I'm not sure why you're expecting him to say different.

I have no issue with managers backing their players in difficult circumstances. I have a huge issue with him clearly disappearing up his own arse in the process.

There was nothing 'aggressive' about that. 

Edited 26 October, 2024 by Colinjb

[Midfield_General]

19 minutes ago, Edmonton Saint said:

Martin -  “ Incredibly proud. We hurt them a bit.  Keep up this aggression and spirit we will be fine “

[Mr X]

Apart from archer hitting the crossbar every time we half managed to get near their goal area it ended up straight back with Ramsgate within five seconds!.... Impressive! 

[LeBizzier69]

Good effort lads. I like Rusty, and I hope he can turn it around. 
Lallana made such a difference when playing out from the back. They looked much more comfortable with him involved. 

[sfc4prem]

1 minute ago, Midfield_General said:

I do like Russ's determined positivity and protection of his team.

If only we actually turn it around. Can't see it, though. We're soft and lackadaisical against opposition we need to be picking up points against.

[vectraman]

20 minutes ago, trousers said:

I think it was more down to City having a below par day rather than us giving them a "hard game" TBH, but we don't have to agree on that viewpoint, of course.

If Man City had to win by 5 goals today to win the league they would have done, no question. They weren’t bothered, played in Europe and again next week. We made it a nice stroll for them, and contributed virtually nothing to one of the most boring games ever seen. Possession football? I’ll pass on that…😉

[Lord Duckhunter]

17 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

 

Brentford and Forest we were shite, but it was early in the season. Ipswich was unlucky but shit defending from a corner, and Leicester we were down to 10 men and got arse-raped by the ref.

You seem to have forgotten Bournemouth, which was a complete & utter shit show, and Newcastle where we played against 10 men for an hour. Manchester Utd, aren’t great shakes this season either. 
 

So well done Lego head, we didn’t get smashed against Arsenal or  City. Deserves a new contract. 

Edited 26 October, 2024 by Lord Duckhunter

[saintant]

4 minutes ago, Mr X said:

Apart from archer hitting the crossbar every time we half managed to get near their goal area it ended up straight back with Ramsgate within five seconds!.... Impressive! 

That's bravery.

[Football Special]

15 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

I didn't see Stephens do anything today.

Didn't watch the game then 

[Farmer Saint]

8 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

You seem to have forgotten Bournemouth, which was a complete & utter shit show, and Newcastle where we played against 10 men for an hour. Manchester Utd, aren’t great shakes this season either. 
 

So well done Lego head, we didn’t get smashed against Arsenal or  City. Deserves a new contract. 

Bournemouth was a shitshow, yeah. As I've said multiple times he should go, but it doesn't mean we have to criticise for the sake of it - 1-0 at City is a good result for 90% of teams.

Edited 26 October, 2024 by Farmer Saint

[Micky]

29 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

It's where we were predicted to finish by everyone - papers, bookies, OPTA - and yet we have fans annoyed that we lost 1-0 at possibly the best team in the World.

Some of our fans are utter knob heads.

Not too sure of that to be quite honest.  People are pissed off at the culmination of the season up to now - drawing with Ipswich in the last minute, horrendous display away at Bournemouth, last week at home to Leicester - they are the games that are killing us.

Nobody is bothered about losing today at City - I never even looked at the score until half an hour ago - it was a given.

[saintant]

4 minutes ago, vectraman said:

If Man City had to win by 5 goals today to win the league they would have done, no question. They weren’t bothered, played in Europe and again next week. We made it a nice stroll for them, and contributed virtually nothing to one of the most boring games ever seen. Possession football? I’ll pass on that…😉

Agree - having scored an early goal they were able to stroll through the game comfortably and were confident we'd not go hunting an equaliser. Had we scored they'd have gone up 3 or 4 gears. We didn't hold out against a rampaging, gung-ho City, we weren't so good defensively that they had no answers - we played a less than brave game and held a side that knew they needed to expend very little energy to take the points.  Let's not kid ourselves.

[Harry_SFC]

Bernardo Silva and Pep both complimenting Russell Martin. Exactly what he wanted out of this game. Bet he's absolutely buzzing with that.

[Football Special]

Taking today's game in isolation I thought it was a decent performance,  Archer and Tall Paul should have done better with good chances,  Armstrong also should have drilled his chance low. 

Awful defending for the goal , keeper should have done better. 

 

[Lighthouse]

Just now, Harry_SFC said:

Bernardo Silva and Pep both complimenting Russell Martin. Exactly what he wanted out of this game. Bet he's absolutely buzzing with that.

People do come up with some bizarre personas for people they've never met. 

[Farmer Saint]

1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said:

Bernardo Silva and Pep both complimenting Russell Martin. Exactly what he wanted out of this game. Bet he's absolutely buzzing with that.

TBF, their opinion is probably more valued than the freaks we have on this forum.

[badgerx16]

3 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Didn't watch the game then 

Watched from kickoff to final whistle.

[BallBoy]

This is so much like our relegation season. We have respectable performances against the top teams but still lose. Then we conspire to throw away points to the teams around us. Net result: no wins.

[Farmer Saint]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

People do come up with some bizarre personas for people they've never met. 

But, but, but he's a vegan with a beard...

[Saint Matty 76]

Bernardo and Pep are just happy we played perfectly into their hands and would rather teams did that as opposed to making it tough for them

Not difficult

[Harry_SFC]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

People do come up with some bizarre personas for people they've never met. 

Just going by how he comes across in his interviews etc 👍

[OttawaSaint]

2 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Bernardo Silva and Pep both complimenting Russell Martin. Exactly what he wanted out of this game. Bet he's absolutely buzzing with that.

Easy to do when they have the 3pts. Fergie used to pull the same shit. 

[vectraman]

2 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Bernardo Silva and Pep both complimenting Russell Martin. Exactly what he wanted out of this game. Bet he's absolutely buzzing with that.

I wonder if Pep told Russell how brave and courageous his Saints team had been…🤦‍♂️

Just to give that ego a nice belly rub. 

[badgerx16]

2 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Taking today's game in isolation I thought it was a decent performance,  Archer and Tall Paul should have done better with good chances,  Armstrong also should have drilled his chance low. 

Awful defending for the goal , keeper should have done better. 

 

If City had felt the need they would have switched out of second gear.

[Harry_SFC]

3 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

TBF, their opinion is probably more valued than the freaks we have on this forum.

Yes because the style isn't too dissimilar to their own. Of course they will compliment it as it was a relatively easy day for them. Doesn't mean it works for every team though, does it? 

Edited 26 October, 2024 by Harry_SFC

[derry]

That display was entirely predictable, pack the box and stop the opposition. In that respect it went well. We managed 43% possession which was nearly twice as much as I thought we would get even though most of it was close to our goal. The pluses, Fernandes played well. Archer hitting the bar, he did well there. All the players put in a shift. That free kick at the end needed a ball into the box aimed at Onuachu. Armstrong worked hard and was a threat. I don't see any reason why we couldn't put out a decent team to play defend hard and counterattack ditching the own half possession. It won't happen under Martin.

 

[saintant]

Just now, badgerx16 said:

If City had felt the need they would have switched out of second gear.

But as we played most of the game in reverse gear they didn't need to.