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Just now, Disco Stu said:

Game lost in the first 30 minutes. Unforgivable. We look so poorly coached.

And THAT is exactly the essence of it all. Forget the possession football propaganda…we have a poor coaching team end of.  The team set-up for this game absolutely nails that fact completely. Go now Russ.

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I think that's going to be it for our favourite vegan tbh. First half was absolutely dire. Looks like hes lost, no idea what line up or tactics to pick, totally scattergun and all over the place. Feel for him, but I just can't see how he can continue. Getting worse if anything. 

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1 minute ago, beatlesaint said:

You’ve got a fkin weird sense of humour at the expense of your fellow fans

Come on, flip the situations and we'd be pissing ourselves laughing. It's not like they're stranded in Newcastle, it's half an hour down the road.

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2 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said:

A lot better in the second half but the first half performance what cost us tonight. Such a poor first half.

I can hear RM say it now, “we had some really beautiful moments in the second half…..”

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How do you even analyse that? I thought, out of hope rather than anything, we may get a result tonight.

We look absolutley light years away from Bournemouth, not even in the same universe. For us to say that it equates to absolutley disgraceful management of this club for many years. Bournemouth, with their stadium, size and resources should not be a universe better than us - but here we are. No match to their quality.

Onto the next one? Whatever.

I don't even bother reading much into that 2nd half, I know the narrative from the club will be that we 'fought' in the 2nd half and that we were better etc etc etc - but bullshit to that, it was better because Bournemouth stepped off it slightly as the game was done and dusted. Not even a contest, so I don't want to hear any bollocks about us being better in the 2nd half.

The fact is that we've been absolutley trounced by Bournemouth, fair and square - light years better than us, it's not even close.

I don't know where we go from here, but it looks pretty inevitable that we are embarking on the worst season we're ever going to experience in our lives. How we recover from this season will be the story.

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The only players with any credit tonight are Ramsdale and Aribo. 
Everyone else fell apart. Ugochukwu was pathetic for the 3rd, it summed up how the team threw the towel in. So low on quality it’s embarrassing.

This squad’s only hope seems to be a Moyes type who goes back to basics. Trying to be clever and quirky with this championship standard outfit is madness.

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Made that very easy for Bmuff especially in the first half when we did not compete physically. We improved with the subs but it's straw clutching really. Tyler was ineffective today - looked to be trying to do too much but he'll learn. We need to start being drilled in the basics ie free-kicks, throw-ins, corners because we just continually switch off. Not sure where we go from here but still think we are better than we're being coached to play. Lallana again looked class.

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Got an early goal back in the 2nd half and from that moment on hardly laid a glove on them as we reverted to the RM style of passing it around without creating much. There is one thing consistent about RM teams - they concede a helluva lot of goals.

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For all the talk about our signings in the summer, most were head scratching:

Archer - never done it at Villa or Sheff Utd and looked very poor for Saints so far

Fraser - was a great squad player last season but nowhere near Prem quality

BBD - looks absolutely bloody terrible
Lesley - tried to replicate the Lavia signing but he is a fraction of the player Lavia was.  Nowhere near Prem quality yet
THB - yet to show he is a Prem player yet but plenty of time on his side
Downes - yet to show he is a Prem player
Cornet - why? He makes BBD look like Pele
Taylor - solid but not great

Which really means Ramsdale, Fernandes (who looks like a real prospect) and Lallana as looking like they are Prem quality. 

And then we have Stewart, AA and Tall Paul as our lethal, score for fun strikers if we ever decide to play with strikers.



 

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6 minutes ago, Suhari said:

Last train back cancelled too.

Not a good night.

 

5 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Have to admit that's pretty funny that they announced that over the tannoy. 

However, the previous services are running late, so every cloud...

 

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Just got back in after an evening out. Caught the last half an hour. Any reason why Lallana didn't start? If he can only play half a game, it should always be the first half, not the arse end of a game when a result is already beyond reach. The only truly premier league quality outfield player we have and he spends 75% of the game on the bench...

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Just now, trousers said:

Just got back in after an evening out. Caught the last half an hour. Any reason why Lallana didn't start? If he can only play half a game, it should always be the first half, not the arse end of a game when a result is already beyond reach. The only truly premier league quality outfield player we have and he spends 75% of the game on the bench...

You're fortunate you didn't have to watch the first half an hour. 

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And that was lil' ol' Bournemouth.  Absolutely schooled all over the park, goalkeeper apart not one of our players would get into their team, that's how far off premiership quality we are. We looked absolutely lost and on the odd occasion we got over the half way line we went backwards, we didn't even try to go sideways, it's in our DNA to retreat to our own 18 yard line.  Saying that, we were crap, we lost 3 - 1 but we were actually better than I thought we would be, how that works I have no idea but there is it's. 

This is going to be a major embarrassment of a season unless something drastic happens soon, anybody like to hazard a guess of where the next point is coming from, realistically?

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It does frustrate me how patient we are when we are losing the game. I would like to see us take the handbrake off and at least try and steal some undeserved points. Look at how Bournemouth didn’t even have a shot on target against Everton until the 88th minute but ended up winning the game from 2 behind. It’s all good and well having a style/principle and sticking to it, but you can’t get anything from a game passing it around your own half when losing. It’s crazy!

I echo the sentiments of other posters that tonight shows how far we have fallen. Bournemouth far superior to us tonight after a decent enough start from us and once again that first goal kills our mentality. So many goals conceded from set plays now, a few from passing it out the back. We are so fragile and predictable.

It’s frustrating as I do feel this squad can perform better but our lack of goal threat and intensity in our play mean few chances and not taking them. Starting to consider if Martin can turn this around or not, really wanted it work.

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Just now, Micky said:

And that was lil' ol' Bournemouth.  Absolutely schooled all over the park, goalkeeper apart not one of our players would get into their team, that's how far off premiership quality we are. We looked absolutely lost and on the odd occasion we got over the half way line we went backwards, we didn't even try to go sideways, it's in our DNA to retreat to our own 18 yard line.  Saying that, we were crap, we lost 3 - 1 but we were actually better than I thought we would be, how that works I have no idea but there is it's. 

This is going to be a major embarrassment of a season unless something drastic happens soon, anybody like to hazard a guess of where the next point is coming from, realistically?

I think he'll go after this but there is a part of me that's morbidly curious to see what Arsenal would do to this team. 

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3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Yep. That's the reality of the situation, Bournemouth can (somehow!) spend £37million and we're scrabbling around buying relegation cast offs. 

PSR. Basically stops relegation by default. We were just unlucky enough to go down as it came in. 

Clubs that get relegated get wrecked by the turmoil it causes, then get promoted and can't spend the same as the worst surviving prem club. And clubs coming up from lower leagues (that avoid that mess) don't have the infastructure to really threaten because it takes years of funding to establish squad depth, commercial revenues, and quality training / academy setups. 

PSR is one foot into the world of removing relegation. 

 

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that's another depressing night... bringing back memories from 2 years ago. Kinda liked the championship nights a lot more.

Hard not to be angry and negative... RM is living dangerously...

Feel sorry for away supporters... hope the club pays for their taxies home.

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3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

How do you even analyse that? I thought, out of hope rather than anything, we may get a result tonight.

We look absolutley light years away from Bournemouth, not even in the same universe. For us to say that it equates to absolutley disgraceful management of this club for many years. Bournemouth, with their stadium, size and resources should not be a universe better than us - but here we are. No match to their quality.

Onto the next one? Whatever.

I don't even bother reading much into that 2nd half, I know the narrative from the club will be that we 'fought' in the 2nd half and that we were better etc etc etc - but bullshit to that, it was better because Bournemouth stepped off it slightly as the game was done and dusted. Not even a contest, so I don't want to hear any bollocks about us being better in the 2nd half.

The fact is that we've been absolutley trounced by Bournemouth, fair and square - light years better than us, it's not even close.

I don't know where we go from here, but it looks pretty inevitable that we are embarking on the worst season we're ever going to experience in our lives. How we recover from this season will be the story.

Agree entirely, when you see the set up of most teams there is a definite 'shape'.

Tonight, my first 'viewing' this season, showed how completely ill prepared we are for Premier League football. 

Potter would need to be down to his last ten million before considering any offers.

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Positive post:

- GD only ended up -2

- it would’ve looked far worse on TV than my seat in row C of that shit tip of a stadium 

- they were only trolling us with the train cancellation tannoy, they’re all on apart from the 23:15 which nobody stayed long enough to need 

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2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

I think he'll go after this but there is a part of me that's morbidly curious to see what Arsenal would do to this team. 

That is fucking morbid. Bet you were glued to the screen when Leicester and United dicked us 9-0. You fucking masochist, you.

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Not putting a striker on the pitch was the first mistake. The second was putting Cornet on the right when he’s been at his best on the left and expecting him to provide cover to Suga (he didn’t). The third was expecting Dibling to provide 95% of all creativity through the middle  - an 18 year old in his 2nd/3rd game in the Prem. Fourth was expecting the team to beat their press by playing over our midfield.

Just watching the Martin presser - he’s saying he’s hurt for the first half performance. So he’s blaming the players. Fuckwit.

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15 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

Final train back to Southampton cancelled getting the biggest cheer of the game. Hopefully, we can leave Russell in Bournemouth.

nah hes driving the bus..................

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2 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

PSR. Basically stops relegation by default. We were just unlucky enough to go down as it came in. 

Clubs that get relegated get wrecked by the turmoil it causes, then get promoted and can't spend the same as the worst surviving prem club. And clubs coming up from lower leagues (that avoid that mess) don't have the infastructure to really threaten because it takes years of funding to establish squad depth, commercial revenues, and quality training / academy setups. 

PSR is one foot into the world of removing relegation. 

 

Hope the PL enjoy having non entity clubs like Brentford and Bournemouth for eternity, then. Their fans are fucking dire.

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