Saints 1-1 Ipswich - Match Thread

[stknowle]

Anyone got a working stream?

[obelisk]

Ramsdale earning his corn with saves but dodgy with his passing.

[AlexLaw76]

Streams anyone? The one I have is stuttering all the time

[CB Fry]

That's where the Ramsdale money is going.

[OttawaSaint]

We're getting comprehensively outplayed at home vs Ipswich. Winning 1-0 but Arsenal, Liverpool, Man C are going to destroy us if we play like this. 

[Saint NL]

Half time.

Made hard work of that. We need a second goal from somewhere 

[verlaine1979]

We still look utterly shit. Under the cosh for 40ish minutes and simply riding our luck. No control at all.

[hypochondriac]

Thought we were second best for most of that half and Ipswich could have had a few but I'll take it. So important to go in at half time one ahead. 

[skintsaint]

We playing shite but winning. Will take that. Will feel like a long 2nd half if we carry on playing this way.

[Edmonton Saint]

I just don’t get Martin’s obsession with this system which clearly is very limited. If you watch Man City which is the most successful side in England recently, they go long quite frequently. They mix it up. This suicidal passing in defence is not a long term strategy for success and it seems Martin is too blinkered to adapt.

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

Thought we were second best for most of that half and Ipswich could have had a few but I'll take it. So important to go in at half time one ahead. 

Agree. Could do with Lesley on but Lallana having an excellent game and Fernandes having good moments on the occasions we actually move the ball quicker. Does Martin risk us still being ahead at the hour mark when Adam fades? We need to go a bit more direct today, had some joy over the top. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Really not sure how we are winning this. No control in midfield at all. Downes can't do it all on his own. 

[Greedyfly]

The goal is hiding what is actually still a poor performance. 1 shot on target (thankfully falling to Dibling) and a shit ton of unnecessary wastage and errors from the back. 

[Convict Colony]

the amount of ball give aways in that half was atrocious.

Lots of culprits but noticed taylor flashing up the most for me.

Ipswich should consider themselves unlucky, sweet ball from lallana.

 

[CB Fry]

Relegated teams do win some games.

I hope we can close this out but we're still pretty shit, at home, against a fellow promoted side.

[sfc4prem]

Just now, Greedyfly said:

The goal is hiding what is actually still a poor performance. 1 shot on target (thankfully falling to Dibling) and a shit ton of unnecessary wastage and errors from the back. 

I disagree. Pretty decent. Not great, not poor.

We need to take a few more risks up front: Fraser in particular. I'd sub him off if I'm honest.

[SouSaint]

We've been second best. McKenna will tactically outclass Martin for a 3rd time in the second half. 

[saintant]

4 minutes ago, verlaine1979 said:

We still look utterly shit. Under the cosh for 40ish minutes and simply riding our luck. No control at all.

Should have started Big Les as we are so weak in midfield. It's a no brainer.

[Saint NL]

Somehow we had more possession, but we didn't control the game at all.

A couple of good saves and some poor finishing mean we go in ahead, but we need some change in game plan at half time. 

 

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Agree. Could do with Lesley on but Lallana having an excellent game and Fernandes having good moments on the occasions we actually move the ball quicker. Does Martin risk us still being ahead at the hour mark when Adam fades? We need to go a bit more direct today, had some joy over the top. 

I thought Ramsdale goal kicks worked well mixing them up last week. Inexplicable why we have decided to mostly play short this week when we didn't do it previously. Makes no sense and a better team would have punished us already. 

[Greedyfly]

3 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

I disagree. Pretty decent. Not great, not poor.

We need to take a few more risks up front: Fraser in particular. I'd sub him off if I'm honest.

We have one shot on target, at home, to Ipswich. That's pretty decent is it? They have 4. 

 

I'm not impressed at all. 

 

Agree with the Fraser assessment though, I never think he should start to be fair, good sub option. 

Edited 21 September, 2024 by Greedyfly

[Saint Billy]

Even a goal has not helped the confidence. We look so nervous and apart from Dibbling no one is prepared to take a player on and the ball just keeps going backwards and sideways.

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, sfc4prem said:

I disagree. Pretty decent. Not great, not poor.

We need to take a few more risks up front: Fraser in particular. I'd sub him off if I'm honest.

And get the ball there quickly, more often, mix it up more. Ipswich are watching for the predictable triggers at the back for starting the pointless passing triangles and picking it off. They aren’t any better defensively but are more pragmatic and varied in their patterns of play.

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

Lallana will get tired. When do we bring Les on?

Agree Fraser has had better games. Like Archer's tenacity up front.

Can't get a good stream. That bestsolaris one didn't work so watching pawastreams with no commentary

 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

I thought Ramsdale goal kicks worked well mixing them up last week. Inexplicable why we have decided to mostly play short this week when we didn't do it previously. Makes no sense and a better team would have punished us already. 

Yeah, I don’t get the tactic at all. As you say makes no logical sense.

[NewYorkSaint]

What a half !  A symmetry to way both sides playing. High press, aggressive midfield war... we've taken turns to dominate. I see plenty of signs that Martin is allowing more variety. There have been plenty of longer balls when the pressure tightens. 

Beautiful to see Lallana showing his worth for us once again. Worldie pass for the goal. 

If we can pull this off, it's going to be a much happier week ahead. And I think we can pull this off. Archer to score our second, from a Fernandez pass. Their pace is exciting....

[hypochondriac]

I very much doubt it's going to stay 1-0 but if it is at full time I would take that 100%. The worry is that one of these Ipswich chances is going to get buried and I can't see us creating much. My dearest wish is for Archer to get a goal. 

[Andy Hill]

2 minutes ago, SouSaint said:

Well that was pretty shocking apart from the goal. Ipswich won’t be so wasteful in the 2nd half.

 

[Farmer Saint]

10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Win or not…. I hope we replace Martin soon

Why don't you change your avatar to something like #martinout - it may take off, you never know. 

#Martino

[egg]

1 minute ago, saintant said:

Should have started Big Les as we are so weak in midfield. It's a no brainer.

In place of who? You take Lallana or Ferndandes out, we don't score that goal - Lesley wouldn't have taken up Fernandes position in the box to feed Lallana, and nobody other than Lallana is playing that ball into Dibling. 

[saintant]

Very important that we improve second half and get a win as the table will look so much better and we have tougher games coming up. Worried that Their manager has more nous than Russ but we'll see.

[sfc4prem]

3 minutes ago, Greedyfly said:

We have one shot on target, at home, to Ipswich. That's pretty decent is it? They have 4. 

 

I'm not impressed at all. 

 

Agree with the Fraser assessment though, I never think he should start to be fair, good sub option. 

I mean, Archer's chance is as close as you can get to on target!

[egg]

https://www.nbcsports.com/watch/soccer/premier-league/tyler-dibling-drills-southampton-in-front-of-ipswich-town

The goal.

Not sure if it'll work without a Vpn set to the states. 

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Why don't you change your avatar to something like #martinout - it may take off, you never know. 

#Martino

yeah, might do....

[Saint NL]

this image tells a story.

[saintant]

Just now, egg said:

In place of who? You take Lallana or Ferndandes out, we don't score that goal - Lesley wouldn't have taken up Fernandes position in the box to feed Lallana, and nobody other than Lallana is playing that ball into Dibling. 

Would have played 4231 with Downes and Big Les as the pivots. Lallana, Fernandes and Dibling as the three and Diaz or Stewart through the middle. We are getting over run because Downes is getting no help and will struggle to hold out in the second half.

[OttawaSaint]

5 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

Lallana will get tired. When do we bring Les on?

 

Right after it's been obvious for 10 minutes and they've equalised.

[pingpong]

Assuming var would have got their offsides, weve had the best chances of the match.  We've had less possession which should please some of the moaners on here, and we're winning. What's not to like?

They've had two dominating spells, we've had two dominating spells.

 

All to play for second half, and we have the edge...

 

[Farmer Saint]

4 minutes ago, egg said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/watch/soccer/premier-league/tyler-dibling-drills-southampton-in-front-of-ipswich-town

The goal.

Not sure if it'll work without a Vpn set to the states. 

Good finish. 

[egg]

Just now, saintant said:

Would have played 4231 with Downes and Big Les as the pivots. Lallana, Fernandes and Dibling as the three and Diaz or Stewart through the middle. We are getting over run because Downes is getting no help and will struggle to hold out in the second half.

So Lallana or Fernandes down the left? Neither of them are tracking back and covering. You're solving one problem and creating more. 

[OttawaSaint]

I think we have enough to stay up. But Martin and his shitty system need to go for that to happen.

[Saint NL]

We play it long to archer who can only head back to an Ipswich player. That's happened so many times and we keep doing it

[egg]

Just now, Farmer Saint said:

Good finish. 

Yep. Beautiful take as well, and the ball in from Lallana was lovely. Honourable mention to Archer for his part too. 

[saintant]

Just now, egg said:

So Lallana or Fernandes down the left? Neither of them are tracking back and covering. You're solving one problem and creating more. 

It's just my take on how we should line up. Not suggesting it's not got limitations but think it would give us a better balance.

[obelisk]

Saints inviting the press, move backwards on to the top of their own penalty area and then give it away.

[OttawaSaint]

Che Archer...fukkk!

[Saint NL]

Archer needs to score there, good build up but he has to finish that 

[Greedyfly]

6 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

I mean, Archer's chance is as close as you can get to on target!

But crucially, not. So, really, not great and hasn't started well this half either. 

 

Archer another miss. 🙄

[Farmer Saint]

Our success rate with strikers is absolute shit. We should have had 3, and that is not on Martin. 

[Mr X]

Jesus archer couldn't score if there was no goalie 😂