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Badger

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  On 30/09/2024 at 20:50, Saint86 said:

They should sack him after this shit fest and just go and get potter. Relegation will cost far more. 

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  On 30/09/2024 at 20:57, DrunkenSaint said:

Go all out for Potter and hope he can turn a bunch of championship players into something that is better than what Martin can muster up then let him have a massive say who to bring in next season like he did at Brighton.

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Get real !! 

Do you seriously think Potter, or anyone else half decent would be interested in this shit show ?

If we get someone of Potter’s reputation or standing then my pricks a kipper. 

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Nordic Saint

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  On 15/09/2024 at 19:13, Kaiser Soze said:

So who do you want to save us?

 

I’d love Potter but would settle for Moyes. Would steady the ship and probably keep us up.

 

What’s fat Sam doing these days?

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No proven Premier League manager is going to want our inevitable relegation as another black mark on his CV. The only way we'll get anyone who's any good is to recruit a manager from another league: someone who sees this as his one shot at the big time (with a bigger salary than he's ever earned before). I'd go for Kjetil Knutsen or Frank Schmidt.

Making The Case For Kjetil Knutsen To Be Celtic’s Next Manager (thecelticstar.com)

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Dr. Kucho

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  On 01/10/2024 at 10:06, Nordic Saint said:

No proven Premier League manager is going to want our inevitable relegation as another black mark on his CV. The only way we'll get anyone who's any good is to recruit a manager from another league: someone who sees this as his one shot at the big time (with a bigger salary than he's ever earned before). I'd go for Kjetil Knutsen or Frank Schmidt.

Making The Case For Kjetil Knutsen To Be Celtic’s Next Manager (thecelticstar.com)

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Knutsen turned down Ajax this summer, don’t know why he would sign for us now? Unless we pay him ridiculous wages. 

Nordic Saint

Nordic Saint

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  On 01/10/2024 at 10:19, Dr. Kucho said:

Knutsen turned down Ajax this summer, don’t know why he would sign for us now? Unless we pay him ridiculous wages. 

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You're probably right. He's happy where he is. The same applies to that other one club manager, Frank Schmidt. Both worth asking though, just in case.

Micky

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The first question you have to ask honestly is 'Who'd want it, what proven manager would want it'? Not many, I'd venture. 

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Kenilworthy

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  On 01/10/2024 at 10:24, Micky said:

The first question you have to ask honestly is 'Who'd want it, what proven manager would want it'? Not many, I'd venture. 

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The thing about managers is that they have a ridiculous belief in their own abilities. If we made the change now they would have 31 games (after Arsenal) and a transfer window to do it in. And the rewards for pulling it off would be enormous in terms of opening up opportunities with top 10 clubs

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Barsiem

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  On 01/10/2024 at 12:04, Channons Windmill said:

I’m (for the first time ever) ITK on this one - as it stands today, it won’t be Potter… he has his heart set on other bigger jobs

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What could be bigger than coming home to the Saints??

Tbf he's right to be aiming a smidge higher

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Lord Duckhunter

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Has anyone called for a Lallana/Adkins double act yet? 
 

It’s got so bad I wouldn’t turn down Wokegate, not that he’d come. Moyes won’t either, or Potter. 
 

Not knowing who we should get doesn’t mean we shouldn’t get rid. It’s not my job to pick the next manager, but it is fucking someone’s. Other clubs manage to upgrade their manager why do some of our fan base think it’s impossible, just because they can’t think of anyone better. There’s a lot better out there than this nloke, that’s one thing I’m absolutely convinced about. 

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Whitey Grandad

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  On 01/10/2024 at 12:21, Lord Duckhunter said:

Has anyone called for a Lallana/Adkins double act yet? 
 

It’s got so bad I wouldn’t turn down Wokegate, not that he’d come. Moyes won’t either, or Potter. 
 

Not knowing who we should get doesn’t mean we shouldn’t get rid. It’s not my job to pick the next manager, but it is fucking someone’s. Other clubs manage to upgrade their manager why do some of our fan base think it’s impossible, just because they can’t think of anyone better. There’s a lot better out there than this nloke, that’s one thing I’m absolutely convinced about. 

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Would having no manager be worse?

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Sergei Gotsmanov

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I think we can take a glimmer of hope from the fact that a few seasons ago, Bournemouth were dead and buried, with their manager Scott Parker saying they were not good enough (as I remember it) only for O Neil to come in and keep them up.

One thing for sure is that if we do get a new manager and he keeps us up then they will make a film about it.........

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Dark Munster

Dark Munster

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After de Boer was sacked after losing the first four matches Palace brought in Roy, who guided them to 11th.

I wouldn't complain if he was brought in on a rolling contract, if he was available.

Oh wait, he is.

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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I'm excited if we do bin Martin to see what a slightly more direct manager could do with the likes of Amo Ameyew, Sulemana, Fraser and eventually Edozie. Allowing that lot to actually run and dribble with the ball would a significant new dimension to our game and hopefully give us more of a goal threat - not that that would be hard! 

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pimpin4rizeal

pimpin4rizeal

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  On 30/09/2024 at 21:44, Wiggles31 said:

Don’t want Potter. Bored of the passing to death style. High press is far more entertaining. 

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Don’t see the hype in potter either ., Swansea was no better then Rm..did well at Brighton but so has everyone and Chelsea he had their lowest points total ..

My first choice would be throw everything at getting Brendan .. absolutely quality manager who’s done great pretty much everywhere  much more proven then hipster crap like potter and yes he probably would leave Celtic for us If we threw enough money at him same like the Celtic players leave for the premiership ..

after him moyes also super proven these two are exactly the types we should be looking at 

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CB Fry

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  On 01/10/2024 at 18:32, pimpin4rizeal said:

Don’t see the hype in potter either ., Swansea was no better then Rm..did well at Brighton but so has everyone and Chelsea he had their lowest points total ..

My first choice would be throw everything at getting Brendan .. absolutely quality manager who’s done great pretty much anywhere much more proven then hipster crap like potter and yes he probably would leave Celtic for us If we threw enough money at him same like the Celtic players leave for the premiership ..

after him moyes also super proven these two are exactly the types we should be looking at 

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Rodgers is not going to walk out on Celtic again. Not yet, anyway. And not for us.

Moyes feels perfectly realistic if we wanted him. 

Lord Duckhunter

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  On 01/10/2024 at 18:40, CB Fry said:

 

Moyes feels perfectly realistic if we wanted him. 

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I hope you’re right, but during his podcast with Simon Jordan he admitted he never should have gone to Sunderland and regretted it. Different time in his career but he said they were a basket case that were always going down. I imagine he’ll be holding out for Everton or Scotland. 

Badger

Badger

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  On 01/10/2024 at 14:40, Convict Colony said:

some decent coaches here currently freee, maybe Edin Terzic

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Some good names there no doubt. But why would any be interested in a relegation shit show ?

Many would be good options if even lower mid table and looking to push on, but suitability to the scrap ahead is a different matter. 

Badger

Badger

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  On 01/10/2024 at 14:40, Convict Colony said:

some decent coaches here currently freee, maybe Edin Terzic

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Does Xavi speak English, or will we need a translator to tell us why he didn’t want to be a shelf stacker or PE teacher in Catalonia ? 

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Cabrone

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I've always liked Moyes, a proven decent manager who knows his way around the prem.

I don't know if he could get us out of this but I'm sure we'd be a hell of a lot more competitive than we are right now. This team is better than the current performances IMO.

Plus I think we'd have a fair chance of landing him.

If they are going to change the manager I hope they don't delay - right now would be fine by me. No-one is expecting us to get anything out of Arse so the new guy could at least have a chance of taking a look at what he's got with no expectations.

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Disco Stu

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  On 01/10/2024 at 20:00, Chewy said:

Just gonna throw Danny Rohls name out there 

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Recently signed a new contract with a £5m sell-out clause (plus another £5m for his backroom staff). Given we'll have to spend a small fortune just to sack Martin because we stupidly gave him a new contract, I don't think Rohl is likely unfortunately.

Disco Stu

Disco Stu

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  On 01/10/2024 at 19:39, Badger said:

Does Xavi speak English, or will we need a translator to tell us why he didn’t want to be a shelf stacker or PE teacher in Catalonia ? 

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Yes he speaks English. I was rather hoping he'd take the England job.

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Osvaldorama

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Problem is, SR’s previous bad decisions have absolutely fucked us. 
From the outside looking in, we look fucking mental. (We do from the inside, too). 
 

We would never be able to attract a Hasenhuttl type appointment with these utter charlatans running the club. 

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Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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  On 01/10/2024 at 20:25, Disco Stu said:

Recently signed a new contract with a £5m sell-out clause (plus another £5m for his backroom staff). Given we'll have to spend a small fortune just to sack Martin because we stupidly gave him a new contract, I don't think Rohl is likely unfortunately.

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Source?

You, or I, have no idea what is in his contract.  He may have a performance clause meaning we can get rid if certain triggers aren't achieved.

Farmer Saint

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I think the biggest issue we have is attracting a Manager to lead us - apart from Championship Managers and random unknown foreigners I don't think anyone will be particularly interested. We don't have the lustre that we did prior to Ralph arriving in players or stature, and being given this team, with no money to spend due to PSR and an almost nailed on relegation is not one that Moyes and certainly Potter would want to take in. West Brom are also pushing for promotion this season, so I can't see Corberan wanting to leave that project either (they won't suffer from PSR issues next season due to being in the Championship for the past 3 years, and a new(ish) American owner. 

Chewy

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  On 02/10/2024 at 08:30, Ted Bates Statue said:

Worth a shout. I think he will go far, but probably not with us. Didn't he leave here under a cloud?

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Not as far as I recall, just felt he’d done his time as Ralph’s number 2. In hindsight I think he was right!

Obviously he’s tactically aligned to a type of football most of us enjoyed, knows the club, some of the staff and some of the players. On the face of it his stats at Sheff We’d aren’t overly impressive but in the context of a relegation battle, an unhappy supporter base (fed up with their owner) and a lack of funds he’s done an excellent job there. He’s even got a tune out of Shea Charles (motm in a win v Corberans table-topping West Brom).

Unfortunately I wasn’t aware of @Disco Stu news that he’d recently extended his contract there … but managers shelf lives are even shorter than players’ so that in itself doesn’t mean it can’t happen. 
It probably won’t, of course, but he looks more appealing to me than many of the other names I’ve seen.

 

Wade Garrett

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  On 02/10/2024 at 07:05, Farmer Saint said:

I think the biggest issue we have is attracting a Manager to lead us - apart from Championship Managers and random unknown foreigners I don't think anyone will be particularly interested. We don't have the lustre that we did prior to Ralph arriving in players or stature, and being given this team, with no money to spend due to PSR and an almost nailed on relegation is not one that Moyes and certainly Potter would want to take in. West Brom are also pushing for promotion this season, so I can't see Corberan wanting to leave that project either (they won't suffer from PSR issues next season due to being in the Championship for the past 3 years, and a new(ish) American owner. 

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Bournemouth didn’t have any problems in similar circumstances when they got Iraola.

 

St Louis

St Louis

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  On 01/10/2024 at 14:44, Kenilworthy said:

We could do a lot worse than having Lallana as caretaker player manager

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What's his philosophy and style? What makes you think that a current player with zero coaching or management experience, might be a good idea to guide a Premier League team? Honestly this forum drives me mad sometimes. Weve had a poor start to the season and suddenly EVERYONE on earth is better than our current manager and would be winning these games, whether that be Adkins, Lallana or the dinner lady 🤦‍♂️

Wiggles31

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We would be able to attract more than a Championship manager. We are a BPL club which in its own right attracts a lot of candidates. We have been extremely lucky that we are not cut off in the league. Hence why SR need to act now. If we are cut adrift then I agree it is much harder to attract managers of more calibre. 

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Sunglasses Ron

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I see Potter as the Ramsdale of manager options.

He's pretty high profile, who would seem a bit of coup, but definitely a possibility (albeit not necessarily going to come in and fix everything overnight).

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  On 02/10/2024 at 10:34, Sunglasses Ron said:

I see Potter as the Ramsdale of manager options.

He's pretty high profile, who would seem a bit of coup, but definitely a possibility (albeit not necessarily going to come in and fix everything overnight).

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Ramsdale hasn't fixed anything (i.e. got us winning) but has made our scorelines only 3 against rather than 5 or 6 against which they would've been with any of our other keepers in goal! I guess if that had happened, we might have a new manager now! 

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austsaint

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  On 02/10/2024 at 10:34, Sunglasses Ron said:

I see Potter as the Ramsdale of manager options.

He's pretty high profile, who would seem a bit of coup, but definitely a possibility (albeit not necessarily going to come in and fix everything overnight).

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Not a bad time for a manager of Potter’s profile to take over.  The Club’s at a low ebb and favourite to be relegated.  Plenty of time to steady the ship and build some coherence, yet he wouldn’t be expected to work miracles.   If we were relegated, he might fancy a project similar to Marco Silva with Fulham a few years back and bring Saints back to the Prem with an overhauled squad and a style and strategy which works.

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