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Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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37 minutes ago, Nolan said:

International break is best time to change as a new manager will have time to work with the squad. 

With the greatest of respect, that didn't exactly work out well last time, did it 😉

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Turkish

Turkish

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14 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

And herein lies the issue - I've not heard one name of someone who is a realistic upgrade yet on this thread. 

We've got a manager who has never won a premier league match, so if they've got that on their CV that's a start.

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Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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25 minutes ago, Turkish said:

We've got a manager who has never won a premier league match, so if they've got that on their CV that's a start.

He’s already taken longer than Jones to win his first premier league game (jones won his 5th) & if we don’t win tonight will be threatening the Welshman’s 3 points from a possible 24. When you take into account Jones only had a couple of days prep prior to his first game, whereas the Lego lad had the whole summer, his record is a bit disappointing to say the least. 

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Disco Stu

Disco Stu

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1 hour ago, Nolan said:

Potter would be a sensible option as there's the Lallana links.

Potter would be great but he reportedly turned down Ajax last summer because they couldn't agree terms. I doubt we'll be matching what Ajax were. We'll go cheapo option again. Corberan or Eustace don't exactly inspire confidence but they'll be the most likely. I'd prefer Danny Rohl if we went down that route but apparently he has a £5m sell-out clause which would probably put us off.

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Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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14 hours ago, Badger said:

Is there no limit to the muppetry in managing SFC ?

Jones, giving Selles the job after a single game, the signings in Jan 23, now this. 

Can I add playing 2 strikers 60 yards apart and no-one within 20 yards down the middle . Just ridiculous tactics and trying to re-invent football.

He is not alone Gary Neville had it spot on about Wolves and O’Neill

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Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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5 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Not sure about that - there is every chance he can't. I think we need someone who's not as much as a risk (and an actual upgrade on Martin). 

Would you agree Moyes is an upgrade?

Won a Euro trophy recently too.

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saintant

saintant

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2 hours ago, Midfield_General said:

Agree 100%. The basics for any promoted side should be to build from the back and make yourself hard to score against and horrible to play against. Grind out some draws or nick a few 1-0s and then build from there. We're the absolute opposite of that. 

We're also actually quite well-stocked to play on the counter. Dibling, Archer and Cornet are all quick and can play off the shoulder. Lallana and Fernandes are both very capable of picking a pass from midfield and giving them something to run onto. We could be effective playing that way. 

Unfortunately for us Russ thinks he can reinvent the wheel.

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notnowcato

notnowcato

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

He’s already taken longer than Jones to win his first premier league game (jones won his 5th) & if we don’t win tonight will be threatening the Welshman’s 3 points from a possible 24. When you take into account Jones only had a couple of days prep prior to his first game, whereas the Lego lad had the whole summer, his record is a bit disappointing to say the least. 

Yeah, cos they are like for like scenarios. 

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Lee On Solent Saint

Lee On Solent Saint

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25 minutes ago, Andy Hill said:

RM is toast - if not tomorrow then very soon. But I do have some sympathy for him in that we have not managed to sign a striker that is capable of scoring.

I don’t. If what Farmer Saint said was correct that he had control over transfers, he is more of a twat than I thought. RM not Farmer I should point out.

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Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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5 hours ago, OldNick said:

Did you watch the Villa game at Ipswich yesterday. It was  last minute corner and Villa had no-one on the edge of the box, the same as us it came out and it was shanked. Just our luck on the day, although I feel it should be a given having someone in the D

No, I haven’t watched in yet. I’m in Canada at the moment on a road trip from Calgary to Vancouver. I have a ticket to watch the Whitecaps on Saturday though.

I’ll try and watch it once I get back. I agree with you though.

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SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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42 minutes ago, Andy Hill said:

RM is toast - if not tomorrow then very soon. But I do have some sympathy for him in that we have not managed to sign a striker that is capable of scoring.

Ditto Ralph. 

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OldNick

OldNick

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1 hour ago, Give it to Ron said:

Would you agree Moyes is an upgrade?

Won a Euro trophy recently too.

Do you think SR are going to rip up their project this soon? RM infuriates me where he is determined not to play ABK and Tall Paul as I believe ar=t certain times hey could be important in gaining us points. He said he is sticking to his principles and wont play a big forward and long balls at the end of games when a goal is needed. Sadly even Pep does so when he has to.

RM I will always be grateful to as he gave me one of my greatest football experiences with the win at Wembley. I want him to succeed but his stubbornness may make him fail

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Mr X

Mr X

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3 hours ago, Bobsmith said:

Should he be sacked if he loses tonight? Yes. Will he be sacked? Probably not. 

How much say does dragan have? Is he just going to keep throwing cash at a clueless sports republic? 

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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3 hours ago, Give it to Ron said:

Would you agree Moyes is an upgrade?

Won a Euro trophy recently too.

Yeah, would prefer him to Potter tbh. It's whether he'd be interested in us. The only problem is usually his teams are very large/agricultural. We don't have those type of players so not sure how he'd manage with that. 

danjosaint

danjosaint

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3 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

Potter would be great but he reportedly turned down Ajax last summer because they couldn't agree terms. I doubt we'll be matching what Ajax were.

He turned them down as he was still on his huge chelsea salary, as of today I believe that ended and chelsea have stopped paying him, hence why he's suddenly appeared 

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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1 hour ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

I don’t. If what Farmer Saint said was correct that he had control over transfers, he is more of a twat than I thought. RM not Farmer I should point out.

I never said that, that was Manji. I never heard that - it would be very strange that a Manager who would have been sacked had he lost the Playoff Final would be given full control of transfers just because he did. 

OldNick

OldNick

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15 minutes ago, Mr X said:

How much say does dragan have? Is he just going to keep throwing cash at a clueless sports republic? 

I haven't read the finances but are we 100% sure that he is paying out of his own pocket and not loaded it onto the club?

Lee On Solent Saint

Lee On Solent Saint

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6 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I never said that, that was Manji. I never heard that - it would be very strange that a Manager who would have been sacked had he lost the Playoff Final would be given full control of transfers just because he did. 

Apologies 

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Dark Munster

Dark Munster

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36 minutes ago, OldNick said:

I haven't read the finances but are we 100% sure that he is paying out of his own pocket and not loaded it onto the club?

I think the financial experts here would be well aware and sounding the alarm if that was true. 

Nolan

Nolan

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2 hours ago, OldNick said:

Do you think SR are going to rip up their project this soon? RM infuriates me where he is determined not to play ABK and Tall Paul as I believe ar=t certain times hey could be important in gaining us points. He said he is sticking to his principles and wont play a big forward and long balls at the end of games when a goal is needed. Sadly even Pep does so when he has to.

RM I will always be grateful to as he gave me one of my greatest football experiences with the win at Wembley. I want him to succeed but his stubbornness may make him fail

I do, as I said before, their experiences with Hassenhuttl / Jones / Selles, probably very much affected how Goztepe replaced Kokovic with Stoilov very early in the season last year.

Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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2 hours ago, OldNick said:

Do you think SR are going to rip up their project this soon? RM infuriates me where he is determined not to play ABK and Tall Paul as I believe ar=t certain times hey could be important in gaining us points. He said he is sticking to his principles and wont play a big forward and long balls at the end of games when a goal is needed. Sadly even Pep does so when he has to.

RM I will always be grateful to as he gave me one of my greatest football experiences with the win at Wembley. I want him to succeed but his stubbornness may make him fail

I have no idea but they did going from Ralph to Jones.

i agree with the rest of post exactly how I feel want him to succeed but fear he won’t and why ABK isn’t playing annoys me he is probably the best standard defender we have.

We have no focal point a 6ft 7 striker would give us that but no let’s stick to what is failing.

 

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Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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3 hours ago, OldNick said:

Do you think SR are going to rip up their project this soon?

What exactly is 'the project'?

The propaganda around propaganda football only started when RM was appointed.

Before that we had Nathan fucking Jones and Selles, there was no talk of this mystical 'project' with them in charge.  It was all about front footedness and aggression.

Propaganda football appears to have become some weird cult like self fulfilling prophecy because a guy with a beard said it should be.

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CSA96

CSA96

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1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Well if Potter really is being lined up, he doesn't appear to have been doing his homework 🤨

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Sounds like the two teams are the wrong way round, probably misquoted or muddled his words 

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Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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2 minutes ago, Suhari said:

So 1 down against uff after 20 minutes.

If we lose, do you think SR pull the trigger on him?

With an inevitable loss to Arsenal coming up. Yes. Get Lallana in temporary charge. First game for the new manager Leicester at home.

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Roo1976

Roo1976

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2 hours ago, CSA96 said:

Sounds like the two teams are the wrong way round, probably misquoted or muddled his words 

sounds like the fella for me that...........................sign him up.

Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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Moyes for this season and as Head of Football next season working with Lallana as head coach. Won’t take any shit from Rasmus and this is the core issue. In charge of all transfer activity as SR are terrible at this aspect. Will also fill the lack of football experience at the heart of SR and SFC.

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Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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10 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Moyes for this season and as Head of Football next season working with Lallana as head coach. Won’t take any shit from Rasmus and this is the core issue. In charge of all transfer activity as SR are terrible at this aspect. Will also fill the lack of football experience at the heart of SR and SFC.

We need an experienced strong manager to sort this club out - keep us up for 2 seasons bringing in the money to get us level with the Bournemouth, Brentford, Everton and Palaces.

 

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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4 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

We need an experienced strong manager to sort this club out - keep us up for 2 seasons bringing in the money to get us level with the Bournemouth, Brentford, Everton and Palaces.

 

Keeping us up this year would be beyond re-incarnated peak Clough. But getting some self-respect and a sense SR want to be serious owners and not a Danish child’s play thing with other people’s money would be a huge step forward. It would ruin Lallana to be thrown in this season but clean slate next season, Moyes in charge of transfers having set the basics down at Staplewood - it’s an option at least. And David Moyes Head of Football, Rasmus ain’t arguing with him 😂

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DrunkenSaint

DrunkenSaint

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Go all out for Potter and hope he can turn a bunch of championship players into something that is better than what Martin can muster up then let him have a massive say who to bring in next season like he did at Brighton.

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Saint86

Saint86

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3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I've no idea what Martin was even thinking with that starting formation tonight. Just baffling, and inexcusable.

I'm finally leaning towards thinking we should replace him.

"Finally leaning" ... "towards thinking". 

Mate. Do you want any paint to go with that fence. 

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Sunglasses Ron

Sunglasses Ron

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RM had this to say recently about regrettably having to drop the likes of Adam Armstrong…

”I feel fiercely loyal to some players who helped get us to the Premier League."

I expect the club may need to make a similarly difficult decision soon about him?

CB Fry

CB Fry

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1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

Good luck getting someone decent to take this job on. I think I’d rather be the manager of Hezbollah right now.

They haven't got much of a front line either.

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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I know we were part of the 'so called' magnificent 4 last season, but we were the worst of the 4 IMO. 

Everything we saw at the start of the season and end of the season were our issues laid bear. I think we underachieved with what we had last season, we got the points and goals because of individual quality and moments. I don't remember enough clear and comfortable wins, lots of last min winners, scrappy 2-1's or 1-0's. Very few comfortable wins. Everyone we played last season was in the game, the way we play always allows the opposition. At this level it's pretty much guaranteeing a defeat every week. We were trashed 5-1 and 4-0 by Leicester, good promoted teams don't lose like that.

Never really been convinced by Martin, too much focus on a philosophy. Our best teams just won with the best players on the pitch, it's similar to how Ralph's tenure ended - too much focus on a style and drifting away from what actually wins you games at a basic level. That's what we need to get back to.

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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6 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

They haven't got much of a front line either.

Get them training with a walkie talkie, instead of a ball. They’ll soon learn to pass it further and quicker.

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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2 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

We can dream of getting a pragmatist such as moyes

my fear when they do ditch him it’ll be another koolaid appointment

And this is it in a nutshell (where’s Trousers with a suitable gif?) 

Someone like David Moyes needs to be appointing the managers.

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