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The next big day on this forum will be the meltdown on here when Lee Carsley is presented to the media as the new Wolves / Leicester / Palace manager.

Still, Sport Republic know best.

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  On 17/11/2024 at 18:35, CB Fry said:

The next big day on this forum will be the meltdown on here when Lee Carsley is presented to the media as the new Wolves / Leicester / Palace manager.

Still, Sport Republic know best.

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Perhaps disappointed that others have acted whilst our Board sit on their hands. But would anyone be bothered if he went to one of the clubs you mentioned? Not appointing Carsley in itself wouldn’t be a concern. 

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Honestly don't think Carsley would give us much more of a chance than we have now as he wants to be hipster with his style of play too. Moyes is the one we need to be going all out for as he is "old school", not in the route one sense but the sense that he actually looks at what he has available and picks a system to get the best out of them rather than picking a system and sticking with it regardless of how well we do. 

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  On 17/11/2024 at 23:31, Saint_clark said:

Honestly don't think Carsley would give us much more of a chance than we have now as he wants to be hipster with his style of play too. Moyes is the one we need to be going all out for as he is "old school", not in the route one sense but the sense that he actually looks at what he has available and picks a system to get the best out of them rather than picking a system and sticking with it regardless of how well we do. 

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Yep. Offer him a contract for the season. If we go down the contract ends (unless both parties agree to extend it). If he keeps us up the contract automatically extends for a year or two, along with a massive end of season survival bonus thrown in.

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  On 17/11/2024 at 23:31, Saint_clark said:

Honestly don't think Carsley would give us much more of a chance than we have now as he wants to be hipster with his style of play too. Moyes is the one we need to be going all out for as he is "old school", not in the route one sense but the sense that he actually looks at what he has available and picks a system to get the best out of them rather than picking a system and sticking with it regardless of how well we do. 

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Carsely would be a huge improvement on Martin, imo. Probably wouldn't keep us up this season (I don't think anyone would) but would gve us a great chance to rebound next season and then stay up. 

He likes to 'play out from the back' and dominate teams, but he's much more pragmatic than Martin. Less addicited to 'retaining the ball' at all costs, plays with pace and directness outwide and we'd get inbehind teams a load more. Think the best of us up to the halfway line, with the missing peice when trying to actually score goals. 

In short, I think Carsely would be a great appointment who'd keep to the 'possession based' style we seemingly want to integrate within the club with a load more pragmatisim to actually help us win games. 

Would he want the job? Probably not. 

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  On 18/11/2024 at 09:48, Dman said:

Carsely would be a huge improvement on Martin, imo. Probably wouldn't keep us up this season (I don't think anyone would) but would gve us a great chance to rebound next season and then stay up. 

He likes to 'play out from the back' and dominate teams, but he's much more pragmatic than Martin. Less addicited to 'retaining the ball' at all costs, plays with pace and directness outwide and we'd get inbehind teams a load more. Think the best of us up to the halfway line, with the missing peice when trying to actually score goals. 

In short, I think Carsely would be a great appointment who'd keep to the 'possession based' style we seemingly want to integrate within the club with a load more pragmatisim to actually help us win games. 

Would he want the job? Probably not. 

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He also played a game with no strikers, one of the big bats used to smack Martin.

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  On 18/11/2024 at 13:38, Farmer Saint said:

Has Martin played it more than once? I thought he did Bournemouth but then not again.

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Irrelevant. He’s played tedious, useless, recycle, sideways, backwards, sideways, backwards, boring, suicidal, ineffective, possession obsession football in our own third of the pitch in most of his matches.

AKA Russball. 

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  On 18/11/2024 at 15:55, Dark Munster said:

Irrelevant. He’s played tedious, useless, recycle, sideways, backwards, sideways, backwards, boring, suicidal, ineffective, possession obsession football in our own third of the pitch in most of his matches.

AKA Russball. 

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You must've missed the first England Greece game.

Anyway, despite that cluster fuck of managing the best players the country has, his complete lack of any notable club management experience, his seemingly complete lack of desire to enter club management in the 15 years or so since he retired from playing... he's clearly the man for us!  SIGN HIM UP!

 

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  On 18/11/2024 at 15:55, Dark Munster said:

Irrelevant. He’s played tedious, useless, recycle, sideways, backwards, sideways, backwards, boring, suicidal, ineffective, possession obsession football in our own third of the pitch in most of his matches.

AKA Russball. 

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Exactly, he plays the same football as Martin.

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  On 18/11/2024 at 16:35, Farmer Saint said:

Exactly, he plays the same football as Martin.

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If you honestly watched that and think he playes the same as Martin, you're deluisional. Night and day in terms of attacking threat. 

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  On 19/11/2024 at 08:38, Dman said:

If you honestly watched that and think he playes the same as Martin, you're deluisional. Night and day in terms of attacking threat. 

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They were playing the Republic of Ireland, and it was 0-0 until they had a player sent off. England also had a team of players way above the quality of the Republic of Ireland. If we had those players and were playing a midtable Championship team I think we'd be disappointed to be 0-0 after 55 minutes, wouldn't you?

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  On 19/11/2024 at 08:52, Farmer Saint said:

They were playing the Republic of Ireland, and it was 0-0 until they had a player sent off. England also had a team of players way above the quality of the Republic of Ireland. If we had those players and were playing a midtable Championship team I think we'd be disappointed to be 0-0 after 55 minutes, wouldn't you?

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You’re trying too hard.

 

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  On 19/11/2024 at 09:24, Wade Garrett said:

You’re trying too hard.

 

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Blimey, that's what you call trying too hard? 3 sentences? You must be pretty darn lazy.

Anyway, I'm just saying I don't think there is much in Carsley as a Manager, and that he is similar to Martin in hair-brained tactics and football style. The fact he has been managing one of the best squad of players in World football may have masked his abilities, that's all.

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  On 19/11/2024 at 09:34, Farmer Saint said:

Blimey, that's what you call trying too hard? 3 sentences? You must be pretty darn lazy.

Anyway, I'm just saying I don't think there is much in Carsley as a Manager, and that he is similar to Martin in hair-brained tactics and football style. The fact he has been managing one of the best squad of players in World football may have masked his abilities, that's all.

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Just trying to rubbish another alternative to Martin.  You’ve been very consistent with that approach.

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So all the people who said "there will be some news in the international break 😜" "watch this space" etc were the attention grabbers we all thought they were after all?

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  On 19/11/2024 at 08:52, Farmer Saint said:

They were playing the Republic of Ireland, and it was 0-0 until they had a player sent off. England also had a team of players way above the quality of the Republic of Ireland. If we had those players and were playing a midtable Championship team I think we'd be disappointed to be 0-0 after 55 minutes, wouldn't you?

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I mean, could that arguement not be made for the fact that is why Martin managed to get us promoted? I certainly think it is. 

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  On 19/11/2024 at 10:32, Wade Garrett said:

Just trying to rubbish another alternative to Martin.  You’ve been very consistent with that approach.

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I would prefer my next Manager to have managed more than 20 club games in the Championship, had a permanent club Management role and perhaps have significantly different tactics to our current Manager. Sorry for being so picky.

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  On 19/11/2024 at 11:16, Dman said:

I mean, could that arguement not be made for the fact that is why Martin managed to get us promoted? I certainly think it is. 

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Exactly - so you agree he is similar to Martin then, as I have been arguing.

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  On 19/11/2024 at 13:08, Farmer Saint said:

I would prefer my next Manager to have managed more than 20 club games in the Championship, had a permanent club Management role and perhaps have significantly different tactics to our current Manager. Sorry for being so picky.

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You would find fault in anyone that’s not Russell Martin.

 

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  On 19/11/2024 at 15:41, Wade Garrett said:

You would find fault in anyone that’s not Russell Martin.

 

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Considering I've said he should leave for the past 6 weeks I'm not sure that's correct. Who else have I found fault in? For instance I would happily take Moyes, but he won't come.

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  On 22/11/2024 at 17:18, Miltonaggro said:

Rasmus Ankersen's de Goldmine Effekt podcast I believe? 

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Has he failed anywhere yet? Seems too successful for Rasmus, did well at PSV winning two cups, won all 3 games in charge at Man United. He needs a couple of sackings and heavy losses before he's good enough for us.

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  On 22/11/2024 at 17:26, Turkish said:

Has he failed anywhere yet? Seems too successful for Rasmus, did well at PSV winning two cups, won all 3 games in charge at Man United. He needs a couple of sackings and heavy losses before he's good enough for us.

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Well he's no Nathan Jones, that's for sure!

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  On 22/11/2024 at 19:14, Gloucester Saint said:

If that’s an option, I’ll have Shankly thanks.

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SR make error during split on Chapman or Shankly for boss. Independent consultants appointed.

ghostbusters GIF

"You can't forge a left field, post mortal, global superpower, without being prepared to have the occasional wasteland of screaming souls," said SR spokesperson R Anderson, wiping marshmallow from his face.

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  On 22/11/2024 at 19:21, Holmes_and_Watson said:

SR make error during split on Chapman or Shanky for boss. Independent consultants appointed.

ghostbusters GIF

"You can't forge a left field, post mortal, global superpower, without being prepared to have the occasional wasteland of screaming souls," said SR spokesperson R Anderson, wiping marshmallow from his face.

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Are you 100% sure it’s marshmallow?

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  On 22/11/2024 at 19:23, Saint Marky said:

Are you 100% sure it’s marshmallow?

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I was wondering if I had fast forwarded through the Stephens and Martin scene.

But then I remembered that they starred in another horror movie:

Possession: Unassuming average player taken over by deranged supernatural force bent on world football domination, and the disciples he attracts.

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Is a new manager by itself enough?

Someone with experience in EFL investments said this week that there was no reason to expect all EFL clubs not to be owned by American investments.

With that, and the excitement of @Turkish and @gio1saints soccerball and global superpower posts...

Rebrand club as Southampton Saints

Change Badge to just football under a halo

Play above for all it's worth to US conservative audiences.

Shirt becomes variation of '80's Ajax one, linking us with Total Football for hipster value.

Get massive injection of funds by US investors

Hire Thierry Henry as coach.

Arrange US tours along with Rooney's Plymouth, Lampard's Coventry and Reynold's Wrexham.

Keep Rasmus as Southampton Saints brand ambassador and send him on tour of US media, with his supply of soundbites.

Follow SR model by taking over/ partnering a much smaller US team.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cd9n5v3vz42o

Here's US based Adrian Forbes. A manager without players. Ex Norwich player for Martin links, Ex Luton coach for Nathan links and left field for Rasmus links.

Have Dream Academy Netflix programme building US side from scratch with progression to Southampton Saints squad.

Zlatan has arrived! New coach demanding high standards joins Southampton Saints, just in time for Netflix show. Henry and Zlatan with big US soccerball profiles. RussBall theory and it's extreme Pep approach wows audiences.

But with the hype, exposure and investment we can hire players to our roster to make it work.

Sure, we have the issues facing Forest, Newcastle and Villa. But financial rules are under a lot of pressure and we'll be well placed to take further advantage.

Finally with players to make it work, RussBall becomes envy of other clubs.

Russ' story, lifestyle and principles inspires nations, as he and Lucy become the new Beckhams.

We've a good infrastructure for a soon to be EFL club. Hopefully we can take full advantage of that. We just have to dare to dream. 🙂

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added how inspiring Russ is, if only our club could match his potential
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