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Lord Duckhunter

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6 hours ago, Sarisbury Saint said:

Now you know why it’s pointless changing the manager. Those that think things will get better with a new manager will be disappointed.

Once Ralph left, we expected a step up in manager and look what happened. Expect the same again if RM is sacked .

What a weird argument. If we followed your logic there was no point in getting Ralph in because we’d fucked up with Peligrino & Hughes appointments. 
 

We seem to have the only group of supporters in the country who will put up with a useless manager because we might get a worse one. That’s like staying married to a  4 Pinter, in case you pull a 9 Pinter next. It’s bizarre.

I actually think this Jones/Selles pony is overblown anyway. Clearly Jones was a poor appointment but once Marsch turned us down they didn’t really have a lot of choice other than to use an internal stop gap, we were pretty much down by then anyway. To me they’re 1 out of 2, because Lego did exactly what he was asked to do. They got the last appointment right, no reason why they can’t get this one right as well. 

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Gloucester Saint

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1 hour ago, Sarisbury Saint said:

I’m not saying that. But would you trust Rasmus to appointment a quality manager ? Or will he try and be clever again and continue experimenting ?

Ive had enough of his experiments. Get rid of him and then replace RM.

So have I, RA seems a total charlatan, I get the feeling most of the actual great work at Brentford was done by Phil Giles day to day. But it depends on Dragan’s willingness to restructure SR to buy Rasmus out of it legally. So changing the manager is the option they’ll go for. Personally I wouldn’t let RA anywhere making the replacement but SR’s major investor would have to have smelt the coffee. 

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SNSUN

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57 minutes ago, Christophenburg said:

I could see us trying the next Hasenhuttl, someone who has been relatively successful in Europe but not yet managed in the PL, like Roger Schmidt or van Bommel, etc. Maybe even van Nistelrooy if he didn't want to go back to being an assistant

Nobody of any kind of renown or experience at the top level would touch us with a bargepole imo.

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coalman

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2 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

Nobody of any kind of renown or experience at the top level would touch us with a bargepole imo.

A bloated squad. Tendency to change manager multiple times a season. Rasmus looking over your shoulder. Relegation favourites. What's not to love?

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coalman

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1 minute ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

It's hard enough keeping track of managerial comings and goings that I can scarcely be bothered to keep up, but didn't Cooper get the call from Leicester back in the summer?

You're right. I should've written Potter and Moyes. Sloppy work.

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Nordic Saint

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13 minutes ago, the saint in winchester said:

I think he clearly is a good choice. However, he is SO Man Utd, that I think he would decline any other EPL club.

However, if he can get over that loyalty to MU, he would be on my shortlist.

Amorim has brought his own coaches with him. RvN has said he wants to manage a Premier League club. This is our one chance to get him before another Premier League vacancy arises. Obviously, his long-term ambition will be to manage Man United, but that's not going to happen for at least another couple of years.

 

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Lee On Solent Saint

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5 minutes ago, the saint in winchester said:

I think he clearly is a good choice. However, he is SO Man Utd, that I think he would decline any other EPL club.

However, if he can get over that loyalty to MU, he would be on my shortlist.

Not that we will be dining at the same table as Man Utd, so shouldn't think loyalty will be a issue.

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Badger

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11 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

Honestly someone fly MLT out to Barcelona and bring Xavi to his spiritual home.

As ‘names’ go that would be quite a dramatic one, although not likely to be interested given our plight. Can’t blame him.

Anyway, just hope it’s not Rasmus flying out to Barcelona to bring our next manager back.

 

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Barsiem

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47 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Van Nistelrooy reeks of Ole Gunna Solskjaer at Cardiff. Steer clear.

65% win rate managing at PSV.  In the current market I can't think of anyone else who we would have a sniff of getting (albeit I wouldn't be surprised is RVN wasn't interested)...

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Greenridge

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5 minutes ago, Barsiem said:

65% win rate managing at PSV.  In the current market I can't think of anyone else who we would have a sniff of getting (albeit I wouldn't be surprised is RVN wasn't interested)...

I would think that pretty much every PSV manager since the mid-70’s has had that type of win ratio to be fair. 

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Badger

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On 02/11/2024 at 08:28, Convict Colony said:

I'd say 2 things about Ruud as manager at PSV:

1. He had a front 3 that season of Gakpo (left in Jan), Simmons and Madueke (left in Jan) at PSV and came 2nd to Feyenoord.

2. Peter Bosz took over after Ruud fell out over transfer budget (they didnt buy any great players with their sales) and they lost 1 game all season in the league and are currently played 10 won 10 this season. 

 

 

For those currently putting forward RVN this was a pretty good post on him from Convict Colony the other day.

(Peter Bosz a name mooted here for a few years now as well, but it seems currently employed). 

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CB Fry

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I think we would represent a very good opportunity for someone like Ruud Van Nistelrooy to manage in the Premier League. 

Even if he finishes third bottom he could say he'd improved us, if he has belief in his abilities he'd go for that.

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Convict Colony

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32 minutes ago, Badger said:

For those currently putting forward RVN this was a pretty good post on him from Convict Colony the other day.

(Peter Bosz a name mooted here for a few years now as well, but it seems currently employed). 

Just add to this check out this summary of when he left, looks like he fell out with his players, his coaches and board.

Also man u didn't win those games due to RVN, it was due to the selfish twats trying harder and looking to impress the incoming coach.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/may/24/ruud-van-nistelrooy-resigns-as-psv-manager-after-talks-over-internal-affairs

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Wade Garrett

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1 hour ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Las Palmas got this guy to come in at the October international break when they were rock bottom and hadn't won in 8 months. Out of the relegation zone now.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/nov/11/las-palmas-diego-martinez-la-liga

 

I bet they don’t have 71% possession though.  Trust the process, it’s a 10 year plan.  Rasmus thinks we’re all c*nts.

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Convict Colony

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3 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I bet they don’t have 71% possession though.  Trust the process, it’s a 10 year plan.  Rasmus thinks we’re all c*nts.

You know who else had a 10yr plan, Mao and look how that turned out.

We are all assuming SR intent is to make us a better team instead of maybe turning England into the middle ages. 

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FarehamSaintJames

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Managing Saints opens a lot of opportunities to managers if successful and the team improve.

The cons massively outweigh the pros currently given our league position, squad ability, lack of footballing leadership above and a lack of support.

It isn’t difficult to understand why he isn’t on the ropes, or why “big name” managers won’t be interested.

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Roo1976

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13 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

Van Nistelrooy reeks of Ole Gunna Solskjaer at Cardiff. Steer clear.

were not Manure Utd, so hes got zero belief in our survival.And no, don't want him,..................just saying BIG SAM...................just saying..............lol

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Dr. Kucho

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Let’s be honest, we can discuss the rest of the season who should be our new manager, but Martin isn’t going to be sacked and he knows that too. Sacking Martin would but Ankersen and Kraft, mainly Ankersen, in a very difficult position and could end their multiclub dream.

Just imagine Rasmus calling Dragan, 

RA: hi Dragan it’s Ras.

DS: Hi.

RA: Dragan you remember we sacked Hasenhuttl and we had to pay him millions? 

DS: Yes. 

RA: Then we paid Luton millions to have Jones released from his contract, paid millions for the players he wanted and a month later sacked him. And had to pay him millions.

DS: Yes. 

RA: Then we paid Swansea to have Martin released from his contract and invested millions in to the players he wanted? 

DS: Yes.

RA: Well we are bottom of the league and I know we just gave him a new contract, and it will cost us millions, but I think it’s best we sack Martin and hire a new coach. What do you think of that?

DS: Mnnnn, so when do I start seeing a return on my investment? 

RA: 10 years maybe? 

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Zorba

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14 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said:

Let’s be honest, we can discuss the rest of the season who should be our new manager, but Martin isn’t going to be sacked and he knows that too. Sacking Martin would but Ankersen and Kraft, mainly Ankersen, in a very difficult position and could end their multiclub dream.

Just imagine Rasmus calling Dragan, 

RA: hi Dragan it’s Ras.

DS: Hi.

RA: Dragan you remember we sacked Hasenhuttl and we had to pay him millions? 

DS: Yes. 

RA: Then we paid Luton millions to have Jones released from his contract, paid millions for the players he wanted and a month later sacked him. And had to pay him millions.

DS: Yes. 

RA: Then we paid Swansea to have Martin released from his contract and invested millions in to the players he wanted? 

DS: Yes.

RA: Well we are bottom of the league and I know we just gave him a new contract, and it will cost us millions, but I think it’s best we sack Martin and hire a new coach. What do you think of that?

DS: Mnnnn, so when do I start seeing a return on my investment? 

RA: 10 years maybe? 

Or.. it could go the other way..

DS: “Hi Ras, It’s Dragan. You’re fired, and take that crab kicking c*nt with you! Bye bye”.

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East Kent Saint

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3 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

TBF I think you're all cunts - this is not just a Rasmus opinion.

I think this sort of abuse breaks Saintsweb rules of engagement so you should be sentenced to endless loops of Pellegrino matches for the full 90 mins , as it was in those days , rather than the 110 mins of these days 😉

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SaintLondon

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People saying we can't attract top / top half managers because of our plight might be true to an extent but I think because of our plight, it won't harm the brand image if they're not successful. Therefore, someone comes in and does well and keeps us up, they're a genius. Fail to keep us up, they were far too gone, I tried but the damage was already done. Also, let's say it was David Moyes and he failed to keep us up, do you think that stops a Leicester, a Wolves or a Palace going for him in the future? Of course it doesn't and he can make a few mill in the process. Win win, get it done, cheers. 

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coalman

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13 minutes ago, SaintLondon said:

People saying we can't attract top / top half managers because of our plight might be true to an extent but I think because of our plight, it won't harm the brand image if they're not successful. Therefore, someone comes in and does well and keeps us up, they're a genius. Fail to keep us up, they were far too gone, I tried but the damage was already done. Also, let's say it was David Moyes and he failed to keep us up, do you think that stops a Leicester, a Wolves or a Palace going for him in the future? Of course it doesn't and he can make a few mill in the process. Win win, get it done, cheers. 

It's more that the very real possibility of Leicester, Wolves of Palace going for him keeps him from going for us now.

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lambtiss

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44 minutes ago, sandwichsaint said:

If we want another progressive, faith-based manager with an overwhelming belief in his own omnipotence then Justin Welby will probably be available soon. CHDAJFU?

I wouldn't put him in charge of youth development 

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Badger

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2 hours ago, sandwichsaint said:

If we want another progressive, faith-based manager with an overwhelming belief in his own omnipotence then Justin Welby will probably be available soon. CHDAJFU?

Lineker, full of smug piety, as new Archbishop then. Sorted.

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