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I've got a Football Manager save going atm where Southampton's manager for a few years (I'm in the 2030s) has been David Wagner and he's taken them to multiple top 4 finishes and Europa League glory.

In real life, given he was shit with Norwich last season, I'd say no, but maybe the computer knows best 

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17 minutes ago, Turkish said:

We’ve had the alpine Klopp

Statistically one of the top 5 managers in Europe

the vegan Johan Cruyff

how do we top it? 

With tactics beamed to his brain by aliens, MLT returns to football.

"It's so left field, it's out of this world," grinned Rasmus at the press conference.

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2 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

With tactics beamed to his brain by aliens, MLT returns to football.

"It's so left field, it's out of this world," grinned Rasmus at the press conference.

At least the training ground allotment would be very productive with all of the crop spraying and weather controlled by the authorities.

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Farmer Saint

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Just now, Give it to Ron said:

0 shots on target hmmmm not sure on that and as you keep telling us Potter isn’t coming or interested 

He isn't coming - but considering how fans are so upset at Martin's style of play I don't understand why replacing it with a very similar style of play is a good idea. It's as if some of our fans haven't ever seen his team's play football and are guessing at a sexy name.

We'd be more difficult to beat, possibly, but pretty much as boring.

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Saint_clark

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Potters style is similar but with more attacking intent. He's certainly been more successful. 

I don't think he'd make enough of a change for us to turn anything around though. What we need is someone to drastically shake it up and get the players out of their comfort zone, doing something totally different that at bare minimum will take teams by surprise when they play us compared to what we've done so far.

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Farmer Saint

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Potters style is similar but with more attacking intent. He's certainly been more successful. 

I don't think he'd make enough of a change for us to turn anything around though. What we need is someone to drastically shake it up and get the players out of their comfort zone, doing something totally different that at bare minimum will take teams by surprise when they play us compared to what we've done so far.

More attacking intent. That's really marginal.

Brighton fans were delighted when Chelsea took him.

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Just now, Farmer Saint said:

More attacking intent. That's really marginal.

Brighton fans were delighted when Chelsea took him.

Agreed, but it is still slightly different. I wouldn't be happy with him anyway for the reasons in my second paragraph. 

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tdmickey3

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1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

I never said he wasn't a better coach? Show me where I said that.

You mentioned tactics and inferred Potters are worse, managers produce tactics and coach them, you work it out from there

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2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Agreed, but it is still slightly different. I wouldn't be happy with him anyway for the reasons in my second paragraph. 

He's not interested anyway, so it's academic. Hugely boring football though.

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tdmickey3

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3 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

No, I inferred they were more boring. Read it and try again.

Stop being silly,  we both know what you meant, so go an argue with someone else

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Saint_clark

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2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Honestly getting ChatGPT to pick our team and tactics can't do much worse. 

I asked it "Which manager should Southampton FC hire to replace Russell Martin that is realistic and would give them the best chance of avoiding relegation from the Premier League this season?". It came up with this; 

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Marcelo Bielsa

Pros:

  • Tactical sophistication: Bielsa has a well-established reputation for his high-intensity, pressing football. His tactical acumen could help Southampton regain their attacking identity.
  • Improvement of young players: Bielsa is excellent at developing younger talent and could get the best out of Southampton’s emerging stars.
  • Passionate leadership: His high-energy style might provide the kind of motivation and enthusiasm Southampton need in a relegation dogfight.

Cons:

  • Bielsa’s high-pressing style requires players who are fit and committed, and it can sometimes leave teams vulnerable defensively. His tactics might require more time to implement effectively, which could be a risk in a relegation battle.
  • His recent experience in the Premier League with Leeds was mixed, and his style of play is not always suited to every club.

Verdict: While Bielsa is an exciting and high-profile candidate, his approach may require more time and adjustment, which could make him a gamble if Southampton are looking for an immediate impact.

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Slaven Bilic

Pros:

  • Premier League and Championship experience: Bilic has managed in both top-tier and second-tier leagues, with his most notable spells coming at West Ham and in the Championship with West Brom.
  • Adaptability: Bilic has shown an ability to adapt his tactics to suit the team he’s working with. He’s also known for his fiery leadership and ability to motivate players in difficult situations.
  • Defensive improvement: While his teams like to play attacking football, Bilic is also capable of tightening things up defensively when needed, which would be crucial for Southampton in avoiding relegation.

Cons:

  • Bilic's time at West Brom showed some issues with consistency, particularly in the Premier League, although he did well in getting teams promoted from the Championship.
  • There could be questions over his ability to maintain a solid Premier League status in the long term.

Verdict: Realistic and could bring a balanced approach to Southampton, though he would need to prove himself at the highest level again.

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Chris Wilder

Pros:

  • Premier League and Championship experience: Wilder is another manager with a solid record in both divisions, most notably leading Sheffield United to an impressive top-half finish in the Premier League.
  • Tactical pragmatism: Wilder is known for his well-organized, disciplined teams, which is vital in a relegation fight. He can also get teams playing attractive football, especially with a more limited budget.
  • Proven ability to manage under pressure: Wilder has a reputation for getting the best out of teams fighting relegation, and he knows how to grind out results when things get tight.

Cons:

  • Wilder’s style is very reliant on a specific system, and while it worked well at Sheffield United, the players at Southampton may require a bit of time to adjust to his tactical demands.
  • His brief stint at Middlesbrough wasn’t particularly successful, which raises some concerns about his ability to succeed in the Premier League with a team in difficulty.

Verdict: A good candidate with a realistic chance of stabilizing Southampton. His experience with relegation battles could be crucial.

 

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Farmer Saint

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1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

I asked it "Which manager should Southampton FC hire to replace Russell Martin that is realistic and would give them the best chance of avoiding relegation from the Premier League this season?". It came up with this; 

 

Blimey. Chat GPT being Chat SHIT.

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27 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Did he nip over to your farm and tell you ?

You don't need to be told face to face to know the bloke recently managing a top English club in the Champions League isn't going to go to the worst team in the league for a relegation battle you thick fuck. 

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1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

You don't need to be told face to face to know the bloke recently managing a top English club in the Champions League isn't going to go to the worst team in the league for a relegation battle you thick fuck. 

Hooray, one of the stupid cheerleaders shows up and insults someone 🤣
 

Getting prissy now realising his deluded support is being made to look even more ridiculous than ever :poundit:

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6 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Hooray, one of the stupid cheerleaders shows up and insults someone 🤣
 

Getting prissy now realising his deluded support is being made to look even more ridiculous than ever :poundit:

Aww, look at you being the happiest you've been for over a year now. Cute. Hope RM stays and we continue to be shit for your benefit :) 

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Gloucester Saint

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18 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Aww, look at you being the happiest you've been for over a year now. Cute. Hope RM stays and we continue to be shit for your benefit :) 

Bad Wolf’s other login perhaps? Another ultra fan putting the manager above the club. Definitely on a wind-up but I can’t be bothered, especially given the puff piece Rasmus gave to BBC Football tonight.

Enjoy SMS with 14k rattling around it next season you loyal SR troopers. Be warned it sure looked empty in 08/09. Hey, if the husk of a club left gets Man U in the 3rd round of the FA Cup the 7k STH zealots can wave their season tickets. 

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11 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Aww, look at you being the happiest you've been for over a year now. Cute. Hope RM stays and we continue to be shit for your benefit :) 

Not happy at all you bell, just sick of your hero’s shite.

Well if he stays it will be shite without a doubt but glad you finally understand that

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Holmes_and_Watson

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1 hour ago, Football Special said:

Rasmus going to appoint the first AI manager? 

2024 - Rasmus invents Skynet AI manager from his database.

2025 - Skynet, forced to maintain possession based football, concludes the only way to avoid endless relegations, is to eliminate humanity.

2027 - The Resistance overthrows Skynet, and begins rebuilding with jumpers for goalposts. They discover that Skynet has sent back it's AI through time to terminate the leader of the resistance as a younger man.

1984 - A resistance agent is sent back to stop the plastic Martin-800 from terminating promising coach Marco Bielsa.

2026 - Discovering the head of Martin-800 in an old box of Lego, Rasmus has his next idea to break the mold of football...

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42 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Believe what you want, I've got no skin the game so doesn't matter to me what you think.

So what else have you heard, would your friend know how Dragan views Russell, or if we are making a change and who that might be. You previously alluded to us being disappointed with his replacement?

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Just a bit of "fun" but:

If (and it's looking increasingly unlikely) they decide time's up for RM, then could they be considering Carsley? Plug should have been pulled after Bournemouth but possibility they've been holding out for this International break. Of course he wouldn't get to work with the players (other than THB and Ramsdale!) over the 2 weeks but Lallana could keep things ticking over, then the FA would probably release him if a PL came calling....and if he'd want it. 

Coached at Man City and coach/interim boss at Brentford. Ticks boxes for Ras. He even experimented with England against Greece (disastrously) in a Saintly-no-striker ploy.

For me, it requires a Moyes-type to sort this mess.

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19 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

 

Just a bit of "fun" but:

If (and it's looking increasingly unlikely) they decide time's up for RM, then could they be considering Carsley? Plug should have been pulled after Bournemouth but possibility they've been holding out for this International break. Of course he wouldn't get to work with the players (other than THB and Ramsdale!) over the 2 weeks but Lallana could keep things ticking over, then the FA would probably release him if a PL came calling....and if he'd want it. 

Coached at Man City and coach/interim boss at Brentford. Ticks boxes for Ras. He even experimented with England against Greece (disastrously) in a Saintly-no-striker ploy.

For me, it requires a Moyes-type to sort this mess.

It wouldn’t surprise me, although the stories this morning about a new SR DoF you’d hope are a clear sign Dragan as the one signing the cheques is fed up with Rasmus and sees how far out of his depth he is. Last night’s puff piece on the BBC suggests otherwise though and that Rasmus is doubling down on Phil Giles’s hard work operationally at Brentford (his political sort always take the credit for others’ work). Hence Carsley would not be a surprise at all.

The fans will clearly see it’s another Rasmus folly and unless Carsley pulls off some FA Cup type shock victories at Anfield, Old Trafford etc in the PL, the very frustrated fans will be gunning for him straight away as he will just be a continuation of Jones and Martin so Rasmus keeps the train set despite all of the derailments.

Agree that we need a no-nonsense figure but fat chance until Dragan restructures SR to dissolve the Danish duo out of it.

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Until we fix the (clearly) broken process of choosing managers there's no point firing Martin. I would rather continue with Martin and get some kind of continuity than simply repeat the same doom loop again. Considering that I really think Martin isn't going to succeed at Saints with his current approach.

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1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

It wouldn’t surprise me, although the stories this morning about a new SR DoF you’d hope are a clear sign Dragan as the one signing the cheques is fed up with Rasmus and sees how far out of his depth he is. Last night’s puff piece on the BBC suggests otherwise though and that Rasmus is doubling down on Phil Giles’s hard work operationally at Brentford (his political sort always take the credit for others’ work). Hence Carsley would not be a surprise at all.

The fans will clearly see it’s another Rasmus folly and unless Carsley pulls off some FA Cup type shock victories at Anfield, Old Trafford etc in the PL, the very frustrated fans will be gunning for him straight away as he will just be a continuation of Jones and Martin 

What stories re DoF ?

As for Carsley, that would be another desperate uninspiring appointment. Almost Lego Head II , but without the hair, beard, (and charisma ???). 

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31 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

On the SR thread I think, Master Bates posted them.

Thanks, not sure how credible the site quoted is (which seems to emanate from the wonderfully named Nick Mashitter).

 

 

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1 hour ago, coalman said:

Until we fix the (clearly) broken process of choosing managers there's no point firing Martin. I would rather continue with Martin and get some kind of continuity than simply repeat the same doom loop again. Considering that I really think Martin isn't going to succeed at Saints with his current approach.

We already have consistency.  Week in, week out shit football.

Consistent as night turns to day.

 

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Obviously 80-90% of people want Russell Martin gone now.

Big question, who would you want in?

Who is realistically going to take the job of a Championship based squad and try to keep them up?

Would Sport Republic give them money to spend?

Are they after a yes man that has to work with the shambles that are already there?

We are a lot less exciting a proposition now than we were two weeks ago.

Equally we do have a lot going for us as a club if there are patience. But now is weighing up the balances - how much do you spend to stay up? Do you throw everything at it? Do you conserve some of your money?

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1 minute ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Obviously 80-90% of people want Russell Martin gone now.

Big question, who would you want in?

Who is realistically going to take the job of a Championship based squad and try to keep them up?

Would Sport Republic give them money to spend?

Are they after a yes man that has to work with the shambles that are already there?

We are a lot less exciting a proposition now than we were two weeks ago.

Equally we do have a lot going for us as a club if there are patience. But now is weighing up the balances - how much do you spend to stay up? Do you throw everything at it? Do you conserve some of your money?

We need a complete change of direction on the pitch.

The rest will follow.  

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