aintforever Posted January 2 Posted January 2 6 hours ago, Maggie May said: I find it crazy how JWP hasn’t scored a free kick since he was with us. If we had survived, he would have more than surpassed Beckham’s 18 by now. You have to say Ralph did get the best out of him, like he did Ings. Both have done fuck all since leaving. 2
OldNick Posted January 2 Posted January 2 On 31/12/2024 at 20:38, trousers said: I've always been an admirer of your unwaveringly astute posts Maggie... Trousers, that's a bit harsh outing someone like that, and most unlike you. Must have really cheesed you off 2
Lord Duckhunter Posted January 2 Posted January 2 9 hours ago, Maggie May said: I find it crazy how JWP hasn’t scored a free kick since he was with us. If we had survived, he would have more than surpassed Beckham’s 18 by now. He’s proved what a lot of us knew already, he’s bang average. 4
david in sweden Posted January 2 Posted January 2 4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: He’s proved what a lot of us knew already, he’s bang average. (JWP) ..if he was " bang average"... how come there aren't more players with 16, 15 or 14 free-kicks still around trailing after him?. David Moyes knew JWP capabilities when he bought him, but they already had a couple of regular players taking free kicks. Prowsey's performances at WHam weren't bad at all. He scored half-dozen times and gave good assists and scored direct from a corner in one game at the end of last season. After Moyes was sacked, their new manager didn't see a place in his plans, and now Prowsey is on loan at Forest (who seem to be doing alright) and so it's no surprise that he has difficulty in getting a starting place. Forest are doing amazingly well considering their struggles after getting back up, so why use a loan player if your own are DAJF you? IMO.... JWP always looked good going forward in an attacking role for us, but after Romeu left , JWP was forced into that defensive MF role which " physically-speaking" isn't ideal for someone 10 stone and 5'8" but his possession and distribution were the best in the club. Every player can perform well - if played favourably in his best position, but giving someone a shirt number and expecting them to perform - just because they get 20 minutes at the back end of a game - isn't always a good indication as to their real quality. Managers who have to put subs. on ...because their plan A isn't working, shouldn't be seen as a condemnation of those thrown on in desperation who don't win the game for you. It's the manager's can to carry, that's why we finally sacked Russell Martin. I noted that Juric was very keen on keeping Les U.... because he can see a role for him in his planning ... not so RM ..who ignored him. 3
Ted Bates Statue Posted January 2 Posted January 2 7 hours ago, OldNick said: Trousers, that's a bit harsh outing someone like that, and most unlike you. Must have really cheesed you off Trousers' pockets are full of receipts and nobody is safe from his meticulous record-keeping. Used to be a time when a member could post all manner of drivel and cherry-pick the best ones to flaunt on a later thread, like they were some kind of footballing nostradamus. Not anymore. (Mind you, that doesn't seem to discourage some from carrying on - see above for several examples) 2
Harry_SFC Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) Sheffield Wednesday owner has confirmed we made an approach for Rohl but it was rejected. Sounds like he wanted to come and it seems they've fallen out. Watch this space for the summer? Edited January 15 by Harry_SFC
Badger Posted January 15 Posted January 15 32 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Sheffield Wednesday owner has confirmed we made an approach for Rohl but it was rejected. Sounds like he wanted to come and it seems they've fallen out. Watch this space for the summer? Possibly, but presumably the rejection was that we weren’t prepared to pay the compensation demanded. As for the summer I always felt that Juric is a temporary appointment. But in Saints fashion, expect Leicester to sack Van Nistlerooy, and appoint Rohl, whilst we sit idly by.
The Realist Posted January 16 Posted January 16 I do get the feeling that Dragan installed Juric, who he trusts, to review the set up at Saints. Juric has been around in football for some time and probabaly knows a thing or two about what a bad football club looks like and maybe he had something to do with why Dragan removed Kraft. I also think Juric will leave in the summer and Rohl will take over. At least that is my hope. 1
CSA96 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Well after the Sheffield Wednesday owner’s meltdown overnight I can’t see Rohl wanting to put up with that next season. That said, will be a very acrimonious one if we do hire him as you can’t see Chansiri taking it quietly
Turkish Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Juric said yesterday we can build something special but needs time, gives me the impression he wants to stick around past the end of the season. 5
skintsaint Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Turkish said: Juric said yesterday we can build something special but needs time, gives me the impression he wants to stick around past the end of the season. I like the cut of his jib. Hope our performances improve and he gives it a go next season. 10
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Of course I wouldn’t know if he has any desire to be, but could Juric be seen as future DOF material overseeing a young up-and-coming coach (let’s just say, someone a bit like Rohl)? 2
West end Saints Posted January 16 Posted January 16 7 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said: Of course I wouldn’t know if he has any desire to be, but could Juric be seen as future DOF material overseeing a young up-and-coming coach (let’s just say, someone a bit like Rohl)? Was about to post the same
danjosaint Posted January 16 Posted January 16 15 minutes ago, Turkish said: Juric said yesterday we can build something special but needs time, gives me the impression he wants to stick around past the end of the season. Im thinking Juric may become dof with Rohl in as manager
danjosaint Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Just now, danjosaint said: Im thinking Juric may become dof with Rohl in as manager Lol posting same time
Turkish Posted January 16 Posted January 16 14 minutes ago, skintsaint said: I like the cut of his jib. Hope our performances improve and he gives it a go next season. same, he's done well with clubs of our size in Italy and comes across well. I dont think he'll take any shit off the players too who IMO alot of them have had an easy ride with their pal Rusty 6
SaintLondon Posted January 16 Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, danjosaint said: Im thinking Juric may become dof with Rohl in as manager Just came on here to post the same thing but Juric is (unbelievably) only 49 so probably a bit early to hang up his managerial boots.
Fabrice29 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 20 minutes ago, Turkish said: Juric said yesterday we can build something special but needs time, gives me the impression he wants to stick around past the end of the season. This struck me as well however his biggest challenge is the fans view of him come the end of the season if we continue to lose games in the manner of Brentford. 13 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said: Of course I wouldn’t know if he has any desire to be, but could Juric be seen as future DOF material overseeing a young up-and-coming coach (let’s just say, someone a bit like Rohl)? Fans obsession with sticking older managers into DOF role is genuinely insane 😂. Has anyone got any evidence of it happening or being successful in the past? Let alone perfectly active managers actually wanting to do it. 1
danjosaint Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: This struck me as well however his biggest challenge is the fans view of him come the end of the season if we continue to lose games in the manner of Brentford. Fans obsession with sticking older managers into DOF role is genuinely insane 😂. Has anyone got any evidence of it happening or being successful in the past? Let alone perfectly active managers actually wanting to do it. Yep more insane than having no one except a rugby guy and a hoover expert Edited January 16 by danjosaint 2
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted January 16 Posted January 16 21 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Fans obsession with sticking older managers into DOF role is genuinely insane 😂. Has anyone got any evidence of it happening or being successful in the past? Let alone perfectly active managers actually wanting to do it. Ted Bates kind of did it here as did McMenemy, it didn’t end particularly well but I wouldn’t call it “insane” myself. You would because you’re a condescending cunt who wants to come on here and smugly put everyone right. Dragan should sack you off. 1 3
skintsaint Posted January 16 Posted January 16 54 minutes ago, SaintLondon said: Just came on here to post the same thing but Juric is (unbelievably) only 49 1 3
Fabrice29 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 37 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said: Ted Bates kind of did it here as did McMenemy, it didn’t end particularly well but I wouldn’t call it “insane” myself. You would because you’re a condescending cunt who wants to come on here and smugly put everyone right. Dragan should sack you off. Hahaha so no then? 😂
Fabrice29 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 54 minutes ago, danjosaint said: Yep more insane than having no one except a rugby guy and a hoover expert We could get an actual DOF instead maybe.🤔
Patrick Bateman Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, danjosaint said: Im thinking Juric may become dof with Rohl in as manager I can 100% see something like this too. My original thought was that Juric's contract break was there for a definite reason and that he would WANT to leave at the end of relegation, but I'm no longer so sure after the recent changes. Interesting times ahead. I just hope it starts to translate onto the pitch ...
Roo1976 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 The problem is Saints have taken six points from a possible 60 and the cause looks hopeless even if Juric won’t and can’t say it. Derby 11, Sunderland 15, Sheffield Utd 16, Huddersfield 16, Sunderland and Portsmouth both 19, have posted the lowest ever Premier League points totals. Southampton have 18 games left to try and overhaul the worst teams in the history of the competition. This source from skys report on our plight,dire at best.
S-Clarke Posted January 16 Posted January 16 4 hours ago, SaintLondon said: Just came on here to post the same thing but Juric is (unbelievably) only 49 so probably a bit early to hang up his managerial boots. For real? I always assumed he was in his 60's. That's crazy. 1
Turkish Posted January 16 Posted January 16 4 hours ago, SaintLondon said: Just came on here to post the same thing but Juric is (unbelievably) only 49 so probably a bit early to hang up his managerial boots. from the premier leagues best looking and most stylish manager to a bloke who looks in his mid 60s when he's not even 50. Another example of the downgrading since SR took over. 2 1
Saint86 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) 4 hours ago, Fabrice29 said: Hahaha so no then? 😂 Most obvious one I can think of (because of the ralph connection) is ralf rangnick 🤷. Also, Klopp is essentially DoF for the redbull group, "global head of football" to be exact... I would guess that prominant top level managers (who are by inspection near the top of their game) tend to stay as managers as it's what makes them successful and is their bread and butter livelihood etc. Whilst less known managers probably slip under the radar (as do most DoF in fairness). Edit... An obvious one who I refuse to give any credit to. Les Reed. Edited January 16 by Saint86
SW5 SAINT Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Turkish said: from the premier leagues best looking and most stylish manager to a bloke who looks in his mid 60s when he's not even 50. Another example of the downgrading since SR took over. Yes, difficult to believe that Juric and Martin are only 10 years apart in age……! Edited January 16 by SW5 SAINT Edit
franniesTache Posted January 16 Posted January 16 58 minutes ago, Turkish said: from the premier leagues best looking and most stylish manager to a bloke who looks in his mid 60s when he's not even 50. Another example of the downgrading since SR took over. I wonder what our poets in residence make of him? Perhaps they'll be penning altogether nastier stanza about Juric as he doesn't make them wetter than when they went to see cliff richard play
aintforever Posted January 16 Posted January 16 18 minutes ago, SW5 SAINT said: Yes, difficult to believe that Juric and Martin are only 10 years apart in age……! Too much Death Metal.
trousers Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Heart skipped a beat when I first read this headline.... 4
saintant Posted January 17 Posted January 17 3 hours ago, trousers said: Heart skipped a beat when I first read this headline.... Bare bones innit!
Turkish Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Ivan been pretty damning the team so far. Said some of them not in shape, said they lack mentality, criticised last nights sub and said we only had was it 17 players who are competitive. Its all stuff that people said when Martin was here so interesting he agrees. 2
Midfield_General Posted January 17 Posted January 17 3 hours ago, Turkish said: Ivan been pretty damning the team so far. Said some of them not in shape, said they lack mentality, criticised last nights sub and said we only had was it 17 players who are competitive. Its all stuff that people said when Martin was here so interesting he agrees. Fair play to him. He's got a reputation for speaking his mind (as per that amazing video where he's about to spark out his DOF) and he probably thinks that in the situation he's inherited he's got absolutely nothing to lose by calling out the mess he's now seeing. I like him more and more. 5
OttawaSaint Posted January 17 Posted January 17 3 hours ago, Turkish said: Ivan been pretty damning the team so far. Said some of them not in shape, said they lack mentality, criticised last nights sub and said we only had was it 17 players who are competitive. Its all stuff that people said when Martin was here so interesting he agrees. And it's funny how many of us were pilloried for saying how unfit, soft, and naive RMs team were. 4
Midfield_General Posted January 17 Posted January 17 On 16/01/2025 at 14:46, SW5 SAINT said: Yes, difficult to believe that Juric and Martin are only 10 years apart in age……! This was taken eight years ago. He's gone from looking like a young De Niro to a retired bin man in under a decade. Football is clearly a tougher business than it looks. Give him another season at Saints and he'll be looking like Uncle Albert before he hits 50. 7
trousers Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, Turkish said: Ivan been pretty damning the team so far. Said some of them not in shape, said they lack mentality, criticised last nights sub and said we only had was it 17 players who are competitive. Its all stuff that people said when Martin was here so interesting he agrees. Contrarian bingo card duly poised for @Lighthouse's reply... #moveon Edited January 17 by trousers 1
skintsaint Posted January 18 Posted January 18 16 hours ago, trousers said: Heart skipped a beat when I first read this headline.... Best let the HMRC know... 1
FarehamSaintJames Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Did anyone out there still want Ruud van Nistelrooy? 🤷🏻♂️ 1
CB Fry Posted January 18 Posted January 18 1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Did anyone out there still want Ruud van Nistelrooy? 🤷🏻♂️ How many times are you planning on posting the same thing? 2
trousers Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) 27 minutes ago, CB Fry said: How many times are you planning on posting the same thing? It's ok, I'm keeping count.... 👍🙂 #moveon Edited January 18 by trousers 1 1
Harry_SFC Posted January 18 Posted January 18 20 minutes ago, CB Fry said: How many times are you planning on posting the same thing? It's getting almost as tiring as his JWP posts
Saint1963 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 27 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: It's getting almost as tiring as his JWP posts The lad’s tiresome full stop
Chez Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) On 17/01/2025 at 08:00, trousers said: Heart skipped a beat when I first read this headline.... Is Bagpuss getting back into football management like Jordan Belfort deciding not to give up the helm at Stratton Oakmont and thus is "back in the water"? Edited January 18 by Chez
Chez Posted January 18 Posted January 18 19 hours ago, skintsaint said: Best let the HMRC know... great minds.
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