New manager

[ErwinK1961]

1 minute ago, Appy said:

Fantastic work

[Ekelund]

2 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Still ignoring the question then?

Boring. 

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

8 minutes ago, Appy said:

Funny but what harm is there in discussing the odds? Its all part of the fun same as watching the horses

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Like putting a crease, in the wrong place.
Forgetting to fill the water tank, before you start.
Like putting a mark on your best white shirt
And isn't it ironing, don't you think?

Alanis Morissette - First Drafts

Breathlessly waiting to find out if Director of Football Mascots would be just the same as Director of Football Operations and Director of Football, as it's just a word of a difference.

[skintsaint]

4 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

Its all part of the fun same as watching the horses

You surf the web watching horse odds change? Doesn't sound fun.

[Matthew Le God]

11 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Breathlessly waiting to find out if Director of Football Mascots would be just the same as Director of Football Operations and Director of Football, as it's just a word of a difference.

Flawed because 'Football operations' is a regular description in the duties sections of job spec for directors of football roles. And 'Football Mascots'... is not.

[UpweySaint]

32 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

'Head of recruitment' Darren Mowbray

Righto. A selective, condescending reply that misses the point though I think you know that. I think you could also likely do a better job than me explaining the DOF model so I won’t waste time going over that and how the role differs from a head of recruitment. 

My view is a good DOF offers strategic leadership and cohesion to a clubs decision making including the profile of player/coach recruited based on an overarching vision.

It’s guesswork on my part but I would suggest were Jason Wilcox still in post our summer transfer business may have been better and, if we did decide to depart from Martin, we would have been more decisive both in terms of making the call earlier and having a suitable replacement lined up.

I would welcome your view. Though if you can’t share it without the condescending tone please feel more than free to keep it to yourself.

[Saint Scott]

46 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

In other news Corberan has come in to 2/1 favourite

He would be incredibly underwhelming

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

What difference do you think the one extra word makes? Lots of teams have DoFs but they don't all use the exact same job title wording.

 

18 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Flawed because 'Football operations' is a regular description in the duties sections of job spec for directors of football roles. And 'Football Mascots'... is not.

See bold above for your point. An extra word can make all the difference, and you shifting goalposts in your second post doesn't change that.

A shame that your prolonged absence hasn't improved the thought process behind your posting.

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

33 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

You surf the web watching horse odds change? Doesn't sound fun.

whats your point exactly? 

All I'm saying is its a bit of fun to see what the latest odds are on the manager.

 

Edited 19 December, 2024 by Golac's Cunning Stunts

[Chez]

Why is Mark Robbins turning down the chance to speak with Millwall about the vacant position there? Needs a break, is being paid to do nothing or not a big enough job?

[Saint Scott]

I'm in no way ITK, but a colleague of mine that has been reliable in the past has passed on to me, that Moyes was part of the interview process today.

[lambtiss]

 

Robin Williams said it best "You know you are in more dire need of a blowjob than any ... man in history"

[goodymatt]

Corberan has over achieved with little resource at both WBA and Huddersfield. For example last season WBA sold so many players due to their finances and hardly bought anyone in, yet he still made the playoffs despite relegation battle concerns at the start of the season. He also managed to get Huddersfield through the playoffs without scoring a goal which was the most boring way to go up ever, but impressive nonetheless.

He’s not an exciting appointment but I can see the logic in considering him as he has consistently punched above his weight and is often linked to better jobs. I like that he is flexible and tailors his tactics to each opponent, would be a big change from the last 18 months of having a super clear identity. It was nice to have an identity again but that did become our downfall in the end, way too one dimensional.

[goodymatt]

3 minutes ago, Saint Scott said:

I'm in no way ITK, but a colleague of mine that has been reliable in the past has passed on to me, that Moyes was part of the interview process today.

Moyes is clearly the best available option for our current situation. I think he would be a fantastic appointment. I would have to wonder why we didn’t change earlier if he was interested.

[swingworkstheoracle]

We should be going for Carrick or Carsley

[Holmes_and_Watson]

10 minutes ago, Saint Scott said:

I'm in no way ITK, but a colleague of mine that has been reliable in the past has passed on to me, that Moyes was part of the interview process today.

He's been getting praise for his work at Preston and could do to be a manager at a much higher level...hang on, I think I've just had a time slip to the last time we were really interested in him. 🙂

[SuperSAINT]

7 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

He's been getting praise for his work at Preston and could do to be a manager at a much higher level...hang on, I think I've just had a time slip to the last time we were really interested in him. 🙂

Rupert isn’t allowing him to bring his back room staff. So set to sign a new 5 year deal at Preston. 

[davefizzy14]

26 minutes ago, Saint Scott said:

I'm in no way ITK, but a colleague of mine that has been reliable in the past has passed on to me, that Moyes was part of the interview process today.

Really hoping this is true.

[Hawkswood]

I've logged on here hoping to find out some news about a new manager and I'm obviously none the wiser. What I have discovered is that there's loads of random arguments going on, I'm  not really sure if they're about a manager or even if it's a vacancy we're looking to fill - if indeed  that vacancy exists and neither am I sure who is arguing with whom.

Anyway.....crack on.

 

 

 

[skintsaint]

1 hour ago, Saint Scott said:

I'm in no way ITK, but a colleague of mine that has been reliable in the past has passed on to me, that Moyes was part of the interview process today.

Impossible, we were told he wasn't even interested earlier on in the thread.

[Dr. Kucho]

2 hours ago, Saint Scott said:

I'm in no way ITK, but a colleague of mine that has been reliable in the past has passed on to me, that Moyes was part of the interview process today.

No beard, no fancy hair, doesn’t wear tight jeans, doesn’t vape, he clearly doesn’t the fit the profile. Tell your colleague what he said is bullshit and he’s not ITK. 

[SaintStinger]

6 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

you what?

The guy was a disaster for Sunderland, Sociedad and Man U. You may be desperate to get him on board but I'm not, as I already said.

[Give it to Ron]

1 hour ago, SaintStinger said:

The guy was a disaster for Sunderland, Sociedad and Man U. You may be desperate to get him on board but I'm not, as I already said.

But did an outstanding job at West Ham and won a European trophy.

[CB Fry]

Moyes is the perfect "resigns in May" appointment, allowing us to recruit the best possible new manager to take us back up in the summer.

Moyes will also guide us away from Derby points territory.

Edited 20 December, 2024 by CB Fry

[CB Fry]

3 hours ago, SaintStinger said:

The guy was a disaster for Sunderland, Sociedad and Man U. You may be desperate to get him on board but I'm not, as I already said.

10/10 for cherry picking.

[Master Bates]

8 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

What difference do you think the one extra word makes? Lots of teams have DoFs but they don't all use the exact same job title wording.

Not sure, I'm not that well clued.

I'd say one deals with it all and ine deals with certain operations?

You?

[CB Fry]

So it's Friday so we are getting "and there he is watching from the stands" at best for Sunday, meaning Biscuit Boy Rusk gets to be a Premier League manager at least for one match.

Interesting that this is by far the longest we have had to wait under Sports Republic - both Jones and Martin were sorted incredibly quickly, in both cases before any speculation was allowed to build up at all.

Whether this is good news or not I'm not sure, but really it points to the fact that the job we have on offer right now is pretty low value. If we'd had half and brain and sacked Martin after Bournemouth it would be a different story but the geniuses waited until our dogshit manager had secured relegation for sure and now we have a job with initial failure baked into it. 

 

[Wsaint]

8 hours ago, Ekelund said:

Boring. 

No no, Erwin asked some questions, so he HAS to answer them, that's the law mate.

[Wade Garrett]

42 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

So it's Friday so we are getting "and there he is watching from the stands" at best for Sunday, meaning Biscuit Boy Rusk gets to be a Premier League manager at least for one match.

Interesting that this is by far the longest we have had to wait under Sports Republic - both Jones and Martin were sorted incredibly quickly, in both cases before any speculation was allowed to build up at all.

Whether this is good news or not I'm not sure, but really it points to the fact that the job we have on offer right now is pretty low value. If we'd had half and brain and sacked Martin after Bournemouth it would be a different story but the geniuses waited until our dogshit manager had secured relegation for sure and now we have a job with initial failure baked into it. 

 

This with bells on.  Their procrastination has cost us dearly.

[notnowcato]

9 hours ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

But all would be a better bet than the constricting shite Martin had the team playing right?

I guess time will tell

[coalman]

55 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

So it's Friday so we are getting "and there he is watching from the stands" at best for Sunday, meaning Biscuit Boy Rusk gets to be a Premier League manager at least for one match.

Interesting that this is by far the longest we have had to wait under Sports Republic - both Jones and Martin were sorted incredibly quickly, in both cases before any speculation was allowed to build up at all.

Whether this is good news or not I'm not sure, but really it points to the fact that the job we have on offer right now is pretty low value. If we'd had half and brain and sacked Martin after Bournemouth it would be a different story but the geniuses waited until our dogshit manager had secured relegation for sure and now we have a job with initial failure baked into it. 

 

The Saints-y thing to do would be to dick around well into the new year. It's clear the powers that be weren't ready to do a manager search. It's Christmas next week. Then new year. I believe Rasmus and Henrik have only scratched the surface of the laughing stock potential of us changing manager. The perfect time to get it done would be the day after the January window shuts.

[notnowcato]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

So it's Friday so we are getting "and there he is watching from the stands" at best for Sunday, meaning Biscuit Boy Rusk gets to be a Premier League manager at least for one match.

Interesting that this is by far the longest we have had to wait under Sports Republic - both Jones and Martin were sorted incredibly quickly, in both cases before any speculation was allowed to build up at all.

Whether this is good news or not I'm not sure, but really it points to the fact that the job we have on offer right now is pretty low value. If we'd had half and brain and sacked Martin after Bournemouth it would be a different story but the geniuses waited until our dogshit manager had secured relegation for sure and now we have a job with initial failure baked into it. 

 

Who would we have got after Bournemouth?

[The Kraken]

2 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

Who would we have got after Bournemouth?

There’s literally nobody in the role we could have got that’s better than Russell Martin.  Nobody.

[Give it to Ron]

11 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

I guess time will tell

Ok I may regret this but 5 points from 16. - 2x5 goals against in last 2 home Prem games. U shape formation, strikers 60 yards apart, 70% possession an 0 shots,  baffling team selections, chopping and changing, alienating players whilst shoehorning in others, your 2 worst ball players having the ball the most.

The new guy has a very low bar for me!

Although I’m no judge I started this by Puel boredom blame me 🙂

[Charlie Wayman]

10 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

How does that meet a definition of irony?

meaning?

[Charlie Wayman]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

So it's Friday so we are getting "and there he is watching from the stands" at best for Sunday, meaning Biscuit Boy Rusk gets to be a Premier League manager at least for one match.

Interesting that this is by far the longest we have had to wait under Sports Republic - both Jones and Martin were sorted incredibly quickly, in both cases before any speculation was allowed to build up at all.

Whether this is good news or not I'm not sure, but really it points to the fact that the job we have on offer right now is pretty low value. If we'd had half and brain and sacked Martin after Bournemouth it would be a different story but the geniuses waited until our dogshit manager had secured relegation for sure and now we have a job with initial failure baked into it. 

 

Very unlikely.

It seems to me that SR were so totally committed to Martin that they had no plans to change him so had not bothered to think about a successor. Nothing wrong with that. Doubt Man City or Arsenal have identified successors either

[CB Fry]

10 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

Who would we have got after Bournemouth?

It's not about who, it's about having enough matches to turn things around. Which was exactly the same kind of thing people like you would have been saying in defence of Martin at thet time, he's still learning, there's 32 games to go. We could have given those games to someone else.

But bless you for still peddling the "there is no one anywhere on earth that could better". 5 points from 16 games. OK then.

[Harry_SFC]

https://x.com/DiMarzio/status/1870007292231336426?t=DJXR_vu4ZLS90c2WR1ZZiA&s=19

Uh oh...

Ivan Juric is now the leading candidate and talks are ongoing.

His managerial record is poor, at best.

Edited 20 December, 2024 by Harry_SFC

[CB Fry]

32 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

I guess time will tell

Time will tell what? 5 points from 16 games. He's relegated us before Christmas. Time has told, we should have got rid earlier.

[Galway saint]

I’m expecting the new manager to be :

1. currently out of work;

2. someone we’ve never heard of;

3.has had at least one disastrous prior managerial appointment;

4. someone who has never won anything as a coach; and

5 prepared to toe the line with the current board and not seek to stamp his own identity on the club

and will leave in no more than 18 months. 

 

 

[SaintStinger]

3 hours ago, CB Fry said:

10/10 for cherry picking.

So I should only mention West Ham in the last decade then? Ignore all of his other three managerial disasters and just focus on West Ham. And I'm the one cherry picking...

[Toussaint]

53 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

Who would we have got after Bournemouth?

Conte - FACT

[notnowcato]

30 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

It's not about who, it's about having enough matches to turn things around. Which was exactly the same kind of thing people like you would have been saying in defence of Martin at thet time, he's still learning, there's 32 games to go. We could have given those games to someone else.

But bless you for still peddling the "there is no one anywhere on earth that could better". 5 points from 16 games. OK then.

Who would we have got after Bournemouth?

Simple question. 

[notnowcato]

29 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Time will tell what? 5 points from 16 games. He's relegated us before Christmas. Time has told, we should have got rid earlier.

Calm down dear. It’s a fair response to a straightforward question. 

[Toussaint]

3 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

Who would we have got after Bournemouth?

Simple question. 

It’s not a simple question at all, no one could possibly know. The point being made, as you well know, is that we’d have been fishing in a much bigger pond.

Edited 20 December, 2024 by Toussaint

[Dusic]

35 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

https://x.com/DiMarzio/status/1870007292231336426?t=DJXR_vu4ZLS90c2WR1ZZiA&s=19

Uh oh...

Ivan Juric is now the leading candidate and talks are ongoing.

His managerial record is poor, at best.

Not sure poor at best is really accurate. He did a very good job at Torino over a few years, with a run of a consistent, solid midtable finishes and was linked when we got rid of Ralph but was employed then.

Played a high pressing style if I recall. Plenty of top league experience unlike many of those mentioned.

Didnt go well at Roma but seemingly that waa in huge part due to the fans hating the Friedkin ownership.

Edited 20 December, 2024 by Dusic

[notnowcato]

2 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

It’s not a simple question at all, no one could possibly know. The point being made, as you well know, is that we’d have been fishing in a much bigger pond.

Name some fishes in this pond post Bournemouth that are no longer in the pond. 

[lambtiss]

51 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

Who would we have got after Bournemouth?

That is a pointless and unanswerable question.

The point is that the chances of Saints surviving in the PL were much higher and the job therefore more attractive to a wider pool of managers. We would also have had international breaks coming up. Finally a new manager would have been in place well before the January transfer window enabling them to assess the areas of the team that most required strengthening. 

The fact that SR have allowed this shitshow to dribble on for more than another couple of months is an act of pure negligence. To then not even have a clearly identified target is incompetence. 

[Harry_SFC]

Exclusive confirmed - Ivan Juric will be the new manager of #Southampton 

 

🛫 Today he will be in England. The former #Roma coach will sign a six-month contract with an option. He is now ready to travel to UK #SaintsFC

From an Italian Journalist.