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Saint86

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  On 19/12/2024 at 12:50, goodymatt said:

https://as-com.translate.goog/futbol/internacional/la-premier-se-lanza-a-por-corberan-n/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp 
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Diario AS are saying Carlos Corberan is our front runner. I’ve google translated the web page for those interested in reading.

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He wouldn't my pick because his sides are defensive as hell. But anyone turning their nose up at him from an ability perspective is being harsh. He's a good manager tactically and his sides are very well drilled. Although i'd argue he's the opposite of Martin in that instead of having a prescribed system, his system feels like its whatever will work to counter the opposition...

I don't think he'll suit creative players like Dibbling and Fernandes either, but obviously could be wrong on that.

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Saint86

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  On 19/12/2024 at 13:36, davefizzy14 said:

David Moyes now 11/4. Really hope he's our top candidate. Ticks all the boxes for me.

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With no DoF in place, someone like Moyes would be a steady hand in fairness. Think he'd be good for younger players as well.

Will be interesting to see how this goes. Moyes, Corberan, Rohl, Potter are all decent names to be linked with. I am not sold on the danish gareth southgate however (okay, that may be harsh), but for me he simply hasn't done it at a serious enough level and i include international football with Denmark within that. We need a manager experienced in english football... Get this right and its not inconceivable that we do make a fight of relegation and at the very least go into the summer in a good place for the championship promotion push next year. Cock this one up with another SR managerial masterclass and we'll be on an extremely low ebb going into the summer, huge toxicity between the board and the fans, and have half the team fighting each other to be first out the exit door again.

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trousers

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  On 19/12/2024 at 14:38, Saint86 said:

With no DoF in place, someone like Moyes would be a steady hand in fairness. Think he'd be good for younger players as well.

Will be interesting to see how this goes. Moyes, Corberan, Rohl, Potter are all decent names to be linked with. I do not want the danish gareth southgate however, simply hasn't done it at any serious level and international football flat out doesn't count for shit. Get this right and its not inconceivable that we do make a fight of relegation and at the very least go into the summer in a good place for the championship promotion push next year. Cock this one up with another SR managerial masterclass and we'll be on an extremely low ebb going into the summer, huge toxicity between the board and the fans, and have half the team fighting each other to be first out the exit door again.

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All of which, alas, makes it inevitable they'll go for the Danish fella.... :(

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coalman

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  On 19/12/2024 at 14:45, trousers said:

All of which, alas, makes it inevitable they'll go for the Danish fella.... :(

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When they finally choose someone in January time we'll dream of the time it might have been the Danish chap.

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Wsaint

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  On 19/12/2024 at 14:38, Saint86 said:

With no DoF in place, someone like Moyes would be a steady hand in fairness. Think he'd be good for younger players as well.

Will be interesting to see how this goes. Moyes, Corberan, Rohl, Potter are all decent names to be linked with. I am not sold on the danish gareth southgate however (okay, that may be harsh), but for me he simply hasn't done it at a serious enough level and i include international football with Denmark within that. We need a manager experienced in english football... Get this right and its not inconceivable that we do make a fight of relegation and at the very least go into the summer in a good place for the championship promotion push next year. Cock this one up with another SR managerial masterclass and we'll be on an extremely low ebb going into the summer, huge toxicity between the board and the fans, and have half the team fighting each other to be first out the exit door again.

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*No DoF claxon activates*

No worries, one of the team will be along shortly to advise you of your mistake.

 

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Harry_SFC

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A lot of people think Moyes is unrealistic, but if he wants to get back into management asap then I don't see there being many jobs up for grabs given Leicester and Wolves have already changed their managers. Palace are now picking up as expected and Ipswich wouldn't sack McKenna. 

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Wurzel

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If I was him I'd take a contract till the end of the season. If we go down no-one is going to blame him for it and he's available for anyone else next season.. If he keeps us up he's anything from the new Allardayce to the Messiah. No brainer

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Fabrice29

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The only thing that could make anyone who genuinely talks about David Moyes managing us anymore mad than they already are is if it's driven because by some betting odds changing. 

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The Realist

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I think Rohl might have been their first choice but perhaps he is not willing to leave SW mid-season. Don't like the idea of Corberon so would prefer Moyes to the end of the season and then back in for Rohl 

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Gloucester Saint

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  On 19/12/2024 at 15:06, Wsaint said:

*No DoF claxon activates*

No worries, one of the team will be along shortly to advise you of your mistake.

 

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Yes, I’m sure one of them will remind us of Mr Cryptocurrency’s role (just in case MLG reads this, it’s a deliberate play on Bitcon).

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Matthew Le God

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  On 19/12/2024 at 15:12, Maggie May said:

Moyes isn't going to risk another relegation on his CV.  Ridiculous to think otherwise. 

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What meaningful impact will a relegation have on on a 61 year old manager's CV? Especially when relegation currently looks extremely likely. Moyes has a vast body of work as a manager that shows he is capable. An inevitable relegation isn't going to be blamed on him.

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RedArmy

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  On 19/12/2024 at 15:30, Fabrice29 said:

The only thing that could make anyone who genuinely talks about David Moyes managing us anymore mad than they already are is if it's driven because by some betting odds changing. 

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Tell us who it is Jordy. 

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ErwinK1961

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  On 19/12/2024 at 16:20, Matthew Le God said:

How do you know what decisions he has been responsible for? Plus, he does have football experience at Man City.

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Well as DOF, you’d hope he is responsible for most if not all footballing decisions.

If he’s not, then what’s the point of his existence and we should be bringing someone in to properly replace Wilcox.

If he is, then what qualifications has he got to be heading up football operations at a premier league football club in the first place? Head of performance at the academy at Man City, 6 years ago, hardly seems an adequate base. 

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saintant

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  On 19/12/2024 at 17:06, Matthew Le God said:

2 years ago not 6, plus one of those last 2 being at Saints

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Are you able to list his experience, achievements and qualifications which demonstrate he has the talents and attributes to be a successful DoF at a Premier league club? It's a serious question and I'd be interested to know the answer.

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Matthew Le God

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  On 19/12/2024 at 17:10, saintant said:

Are you able to list his experience, achievements and qualifications which demonstrate he has the talents and attributes to be a successful DoF at a Premier league club? It's a serious question and I'd be interested to know the answer.

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I have not claimed he is a good choice for the role. Nor have I said he is a bad pick. Without knowing his exact responsibilities we can't judge him. Plus even then only some of those things are likely to be available for the public to judge... yet many feel they can without evidence. 

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Badger

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  On 19/12/2024 at 15:45, The Realist said:

I think Rohl might have been their first choice but perhaps he is not willing to leave SW mid-season. Don't like the idea of Corberon so would prefer Moyes to the end of the season and then back in for Rohl 

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I'd be happy to start next season with Rohl in charge for the Championship. 

Unfortunately I doubt we'd get a temporary manager in for just five months.

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lambtiss

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  On 19/12/2024 at 17:20, Matthew Le God said:

I have not claimed he is a good choice for the role. Nor have I said he is a bad pick. Without knowing his exact responsibilities we can't judge him. Plus even then only some of those things are likely to be available for the public to judge... yet many feel they can without evidence. 

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saintant

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  On 19/12/2024 at 17:20, Matthew Le God said:

I have not claimed he is a good choice for the role. Nor have I said he is a bad pick. Without knowing his exact responsibilities we can't judge him. Plus even then only some of those things are likely to be available for the public to judge... yet many feel they can without evidence. 

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I think my main concern with him is that he doesn't have much of a track record in football which is unusual at the level he is now operating at. Plus we heard from and read about Jason Willcox regularly yet this guy seems happy to jog along in the background. I suppose he could quietly be doing a brilliant job for the club - we have to hope so but I'm afraid he doesn't inspire me.

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coalman

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  On 19/12/2024 at 17:26, saintant said:

I think my main concern with him is that he doesn't have much of a track record in football which is unusual at the level he is now operating at. Plus we heard from and read about Jason Willcox regularly yet this guy seems happy to jog along in the background. I suppose he could quietly be doing a brilliant job for the club - we have to hope so but I'm afraid he doesn't inspire me.

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To be fair, Wilcox doesn't seem to have left the club in a better state than he joined it and isn't exactly pulling up trees at Man Utd. I'd rather have a highly competent DoF that nobody knows about it than one who is looking for his big club move. Not to say that the current bloke is that in any way shape or form.

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SaintStinger

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I'd rather take a punt on Röhl than Moyes if either were interested. Moyes has been mostly crap in the last decade, so the chance that he'll come good for us are slim. He'd be off once relegated too. Plus no one likes how his teams play either.

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a1ex2001

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  On 19/12/2024 at 17:46, SaintStinger said:

I'd rather take a punt on Röhl than Moyes if either were interested. Moyes has been mostly crap in the last decade, so the chance that he'll come good for us are slim. He'd be off once relegated too. Plus no one likes how his teams play either.

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Moyes spent more time at West Ham in the last ten years than anywhere else and was very successful, saved them from relegation twice and then led them to two record finishes and a European trophy.  Makes him more successful than anywhere else saints manager in about 50 years!

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a1ex2001

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  On 19/12/2024 at 17:53, Chewy said:

Anyone else concerned that if it’s taking this long we might be appointing Rudi Skacel?

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Skacel/Burley dream team it is then both are available, know the club and have loads of experience…

Toussaint

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  On 19/12/2024 at 18:02, a1ex2001 said:

Moyes spent more time at West Ham in the last ten years than anywhere else and was very successful, saved them from relegation twice and then led them to two record finishes and a European trophy.  Makes him more successful than anywhere else saints manager in about 50 years!

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After the last three left field disasters I’d much prefer to go for a known quantity this time, Moyes would fit the bill nicely. 

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ErwinK1961

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  On 19/12/2024 at 17:20, Matthew Le God said:

I have not claimed he is a good choice for the role. Nor have I said he is a bad pick. Without knowing his exact responsibilities we can't judge him. Plus even then only some of those things are likely to be available for the public to judge... yet many feel they can without evidence. 

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So you have no opinions (as per).

Another fantastic thought provoking contribution to the forum.

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AlexLaw76

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  On 19/12/2024 at 17:46, SaintStinger said:

I'd rather take a punt on Röhl than Moyes if either were interested. Moyes has been mostly crap in the last decade, so the chance that he'll come good for us are slim. He'd be off once relegated too. Plus no one likes how his teams play either.

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you what?

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