hypochondriac Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 8 hours ago, Rebel said: It's accurate summary of our games in the premier league so far this season but it's based on watching Saints try and fail to play a 3-5-2. I am hoping we go with a 4-3-3 set up and play very differently as a result - for one thing playing Cameron Archer as a centre forward will give us a focal point up front. I hope we go for a starting line up something like this: Ramsdale KWP/Sugawara THB Bednarek Taylor Downes Aribo Fernandes Armstrong BBD/Fraser Archer with Dibling and Big Les making an appearance from the bench. I would give Adarma one more chance to make an impact and if he doesn't he needs to be dropped as a starter for Dibling or Cornet. Although I am tempted to start with Dibling and use Adarma as a sub. Indeed. The whole point of 3-5-2 is to keep it tight and try to nick a goal. If we're going toose anyway then might as well try something more attacking and see if anything changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, benjii said: ‐-------- Archer -------- KWP ----- Dibbling------Cornet ------Downes--Fernandes---- Taylor--Janny B--THB--Suga ------Aaron Ramsdale------- Sub: Macca, ABK, Manning, Les, Lallana, BBD, Fraser, SamAA, Armstrong There’s no way we let Alcaraz go because we don’t use a 10 only to change to a formation that needs a 10 a couple of weeks later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 6 minutes ago, RedArmy said: There’s no way we let Alcaraz go because we don’t use a 10 only to change to a formation that needs a 10 a couple of weeks later. That's not the reason we let Alcaraz go. We let him go because he can't play the passing football in the manner that Martin wants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: That's not the reason we let Alcaraz go. We let him go because he can't play the passing football in the manner that Martin wants. We let him go because he’s a hotheaded luxury player that doesn’t naturally suit any position in the formations that Martin favours (433 and 352) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 8 hours ago, SaintNewForest said: To say he is the "root of our problems" is just ignorance, plain and simple. We have a lot of problems right now, not all of them the fault of Jack Stephens. Fine, if you don't rate him, we all have our opinions on players, don't have a problem with that; but hating on him unnecessarily by saying he's the root of all our problems is just scapegoating a player for no reason. Is he the reason why we can't score, or why our strikers are so toothless? Is he the reason Martin plays the way he does? Is he the reason our midfield has been weak as piss? Where were you, when he got loaned out, as he was not good enough for us in the PL, short memory syndrome perhaps! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 33 minutes ago, Gingeletiss said: Where were you, when he got loaned out, as he was not good enough for us in the PL, short memory syndrome perhaps! Because Lyanco, DCC and ABK were so much better. He was loaned to Boscombe where he played quite a bit and they did not get relegated. Bednarek was also loaned out. They weren't loaned out particularly because they weren't good enough, more that they didn't fit into Ralph's rather misguided plans. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I'm confident we can get a result from this. Don't show them any respect, they aren't the Manchester United of old. Play our strongest eleven, no excuses for not playing the new signings now after two weeks off and get at them with our passing game at full flow. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Just now, HarvSFC said: I'm confident we can get a result from this. Don't show them any respect, they aren't the Manchester United of old. Play our strongest eleven, no excuses for not playing the new signings now after two weeks off and get at them with our passing game at full flow. you have seen how we masterfully pass it around at the back, right....RIGHT? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thripp87 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 13 hours ago, hypochondriac said: That's not the reason we let Alcaraz go. We let him go because he can't play the passing football in the manner that Martin wants. I’d also question whether there was a temperament issue with him. Sent off from coming on as a second half substitute on his Flamengo debut, fresh from his red card against Lazio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopheVAFC Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Hello friends, I wish you a good match and hope you get your 1st win of the season. I'll be following the result live from the bus as we head for Rouen, where Valenciennes play today at 6pm French time. Let's go Saint's ! 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Didn't realise it's been 21 years since we beat Man. U. at St Marys 😒 - here's hoping for that drought to end today. I still remember Charlie Austin's late headed goal for the win at Old Trafford a few years back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 40 minutes ago, austsaint said: Didn't realise it's been 21 years since we beat Man. U. at St Marys 😒 - here's hoping for that drought to end today. I still remember Charlie Austin's late headed goal for the win at Old Trafford a few years back. Yes, I was at that game and joined in the whistling and chanting for the sacking of the Utd Manager, whoever he was at the time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 In error I said earlier that this match is being shown on Sky TV. It is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 12 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: In error I said earlier that this match is being shown on Sky TV. It is not. these things happen - don’t beat yourself up about it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitch Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 25 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: In error I said earlier that this match is being shown on Sky TV. It is not. It's on Discovery+. You can get a month free subscription, watch it and cancel again to avoid wanky streams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 23 hours ago, Thripp87 said: With no sign of him leaving we need to start reintroducing ABK to the first team. If it means captain calamity is further down the pecking order then it’s for the best. Now I like Jack and I fear fans fail to see his overall contribution. However I agree with this. ABK is a quality player and if he is with us then he needs to played. Just hope he can stay fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Anyone have a prediction for the team we will play? I'd like us to play 4-2-3-1 but I think Martin will go for 5-3-2 again. Ramsdale Sugawara Bednarek THB Stephens kwp Dibling Downes Fernandes Archer bbd The team I'd like to see: Ramsdale Sugawara Bednarek THB kwp Downes lesley Dibling Lallana bbd/Cornet Archer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) I think that the formation will be fluid all match. Sometimes it will look like a back three others not. Pointing to what our starting line up is going g to be is a bit like that ( paraphrased) Mike Tyson line- “ everybody has got a plan until you get punched in the face” We may start back five but hyper aggressive- we may start with a back four more conservative. Depends on how much running our players do! I personally think player selection will be the clue as to starting intent. Hope it’s positively aggressive myself. NB prior to the Forest match I’d of grabbed a point all day long from this fixture. Losing to forest though has cheesed me off and I would like to see a reaction at home- and to go for the three points not like the stupid U formation thing of last home match. Edited September 14 by gio1saints 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 I think we'll find out today, again, just how far short we are on Premier League standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said: In error I said earlier that this match is being shown on Sky TV. It is not. It’s on TNT Sports. I have it in my Virgin Media package but not for long. When I found out that it was costing me £18 a month I decided to drop it. I’m not paying all that just to watch the same old top six moneyball clubs every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvianSylvian Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 ONUACHU CORNET FERNANDES DIBLING UGOCHUKWU DOWNES KWP BEDNAREK ABK SUGAWARA RAMSDALE Time to unleash the big man! They won't know what's hit them.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Hoping we can get our first win of the season today. Predict RM to go back to a 4-3-3. 2-0 to us with Cornet and Fernandes scoring - COYR 😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 18 hours ago, pingpong said: Not really. Our strikers aren't forced out wide, that is a tactical decision. The irritating thing is that we chose that for the opposition we were playing against, not for every game, but what will happen is we will play them central, score a couple of goals, and the numbnuts on here will think they were right all along and that they know better than our professional coaching staff. That wasn't a problem exclusive to the Brentford game. We've started every game with BBD wide left and Armstrong wide right without a focal point. I'm hopeful we'll start with Archer in the middle today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: That wasn't a problem exclusive to the Brentford game. We've started every game with BBD wide left and Armstrong wide right without a focal point. I'm hopeful we'll start with Archer in the middle today. Yeah agree with this. Hopefully Archer starts today and is the focal point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 16 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: Hoping we can get our first win of the season today. Predict RM to go back to a 4-3-3. 2-0 to us with Cornet and Fernandes scoring - COYR 😊 If Dave's predictions came true every week, we'd be Premier League champions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 2 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: If Dave's predictions came true every week, we'd be Premier League champions! Always got to be positive mate 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 10 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: Always got to be positive mate 😉 Absolutely! Hope it's a correct one this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Predicting a meltdown when the lineup is announced, during the game, and at FT. (myself included) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Loch Ness drogba redemption arc starts here, get ready. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Fuck me, he's gone for it! 433 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) Ok, meltdown 1 averted. Love that Edited September 14 by Jack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Decent line up that. I'd prefer THB to JS, but that's all. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) Love that. We need to get Dibling's contract sorted! Smallbone goes from starting to completely out of the squad. Edited September 14 by Midfield_General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 That's better. Not a fan of Stephens but THB needs to step up anyway. Fernandes to score today and not theirs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's There Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Whatever happens, a bold move. A new era has started! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Well I'm hopeful that we'll see something a bit more exciting from that line-up. RM with a desperate throw of the dice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 minute ago, Suhari said: Decent line up that. I'd prefer THB to JS, but that's all. Yep, well done RM. You've picked a better side. I too would prefer THB to JS and would have liked Cornet in preference to BBD. I like the idea of Lallana coming on in the second half rather than starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Smells like a "pull your finger out or you're fired" line up. One thing's for certain, it's not going to be 0-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Seeing that lineup honestly made me ejaculate 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjurwi Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Really surprised by the number of changes. Exiting and i hope it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Overall you have to give credit to Martin for that lineup. I wouldn't have played Stephens but we know he's Martins favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 If we give ourselves a chance by not doing anything silly at the back then that side is more than capable of giving them a proper game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 He must love bloody Stephen’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Left Back Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 5 minutes ago, obelisk said: Well I'm hopeful that we'll see something a bit more exciting from that line-up. RM with a desperate throw of the dice? 4 minutes ago, Saint NL said: Smells like a "pull your finger out or you're fired" line up. One thing's for certain, it's not going to be 0-0. This is so Saints Web!! Give home grief all to pick a team like this and the when he does have another pop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 10 minutes ago, Jack said: Ok, meltdown 1 averted. Love that Love it. Love. It. Probably still lose but that's positive. I even agree with the decision of Stephens over THB seeing as THB hasn't started the season brilliantly and has also just played for the U21s. That's got to be close to our best team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Couldn't have asked for much more from that lineup. THB has been far worse than Stephens so far so Jack deserves to keep his place ahead of him. Interested to see how Dibling does from the start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 minute ago, The Left Back said: This is so Saints Web!! Give home grief all to pick a team like this and the when he does have another pop Not having a pop, I think it's probably the best line up we could field (Maybe THB for Stephens). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Good job they listed Taylor after Harwood-Bellis or it'd look like we only named 8 subs. 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 It’s what I’d have picked, except Stephens for THB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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