AlexLaw76 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Just now, hypochondriac said: Awful defending. No threat up top. Not looking promising. Im glad we are not one of those teams who spunk over £100m on loads of player to just go down without a whimper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Commentator: Rashford not scored for 12 games. Check. Onana has never saved an EPL penalty. Check. Anyone else in need of breaking a duck? Roll up roll up! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 So utterly predictable. RM was a defender, wasn't he, so how come we can't fucking defend? What does he actually do in training?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouSaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Without Ramsdale we'd have conceded 5 here. Jack Stephens and Bednarek were deemed surplus to requirements two summers ago, it's an absolute joke that both appear to be our first choice CBs. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Nearly a third, yet again Stephens is the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Fucking hell, how did they not score a third there? Shambolic defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 we look dreadful defensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Our defence is as weak as piss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: We had the best half hour of the season. Then it went to shit. Nicely timed around the point I realised we were playing 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Get Tall Paul on - in defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 United haven't even had to be that decent as we self implode every bloody time! say what you want about looking a bit better, we aren't staying in this league that's for sure! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Likely 4 in 4 defeats. Not sure there is much more Russel could do though. Have to hope this new setup can get something elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Just now, SouSaint said: Without Ramsdale we'd have conceded 5 here. Jack Stephens and Bednarek were deemed surplus to requirements two summers ago, it's an absolute joke that both appear to be our first choice CBs. Yep. Clear to anyone with a set of eyes that our cbs should be ABK and THB 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Unleash Tall Paul! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Our midfield has been excellent and Dibling and Sugawara bright on the right hand side - but two Championship CBs and lack of a striker are going to cost us dearly. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 2 minutes ago, Viking Saint said: So utterly predictable. RM was a defender, wasn't he, so how come we can't fucking defend? What does he actually do in training?? Discusses beards with Stephens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 ABK should be starting. Far better than our starting CBs and THB (who has been s***e this season). Archer needs to come off at HT - utterly gash and no movement up top. The bright spot has been Dibling - but he won't be here next season in the Championship (no way Saints are staying up: no-one looks like scoring and the defending is pathetic). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 minute ago, obelisk said: Get Tall Paul on - in defence. Just now, HKsaint said: Unleash Tall Paul! He isn't even on the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 The problem is that Stephens and Bednarek together have never been good enough. Going back aeons. Stephens is very limited, but Martin backed himself into a corner by making him captain . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 minute ago, Viking Saint said: So utterly predictable. RM was a defender, wasn't he, so how come we can't fucking defend? What does he actually do in training?? Same at MK Dons and Swansea, averages one and a half goals per game conceded. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Tater just mentioned BBD. First time I've heard his name for about half an hour. Seems completely wasted out on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Call me reactionary but get someone new in now while there's time, someone more attack minded, don't care about attractive football, someone who gives us a chance of scraping survival. The club knew Martin was going to be a disaster at this level and that's exactly how it's turnt out! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thripp87 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 We won’t get 11 points this season. Another premier league record incoming for us. 4 at the back hasn’t worked, fragile as anything when they come forward. A professional striker backpassing a penalty doesn’t help either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Different game if we scored the penalty. Has turned out to be a pivitol moment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Just now, Mr X said: Call me reactionary but get someone new in now while there's time, someone more attack minded, don't care about attractive football, someone who gives us a chance of scraping survival. The club knew Martin was going to be a disaster at this level and that's exactly how it's turnt out! They gave him a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 5 minutes ago, Viking Saint said: So utterly predictable. RM was a defender, wasn't he, so how come we can't fucking defend? What does he actually do in training?? Interesting point. Our defense has been mostly fine this season, but 5 out of the 7 goals we've conceded can be directly attributed to one player - Stephens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 HT. Man United have not needed to be good in any department. We looked decent for about 30 mins, wasted a penalty.... No one will ever convince me that Shoehorn should be in the team....Yet, there he is (still) as captain 4 loses out of 4 this will be another at least another 2 goals shipped. Martin can't keep this up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Ever since that penalty miss Saints have just fallen apart. Stephens playing 3 attackers onside for their first goal and the 2nd was just a shambles. Ramsdale playing a blinder otherwise it'd be even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Should be 1-0 up, 0-2 down. Ridiculous score given how the game has gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 minute ago, Edmonton Saint said: The problem is that Stephens and Bednarek together have never been good enough. Going back aeons. Stephens is very limited, but Martin backed himself into a corner by making him captain . Correct, neither were good enough two seasons ago and are still not good enough now. That neither have been successfully replaced in two seasons speaks for itself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 That penalty was so important not to miss. Score there and Utd, a team in disarray may have crumbled. 2-0 up now and utterly comfortable. Archer looked scared. You could tell he'd miss. If that's the case, turn around and hand the ball to someone who's feeling it. 4 games, looking like 4 defeats, 1 goal, bottom of the league. We can't afford stuff like this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Say it every week and I’ll say it again. Stephens Bednarek BBD Archer Do not belong in the premier league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Just now, BotleySaint said: Different game if we scored the penalty. But we didn't, and that's what counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Utd 8 shots on target is their best in the first half of a PL game for 5 years, apparently. Speaks volumes, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 I’ve turned TNT Sports off, deleted the app, turned my phone off, smashed my phone up, put my phone in the bin, taken the bin bag out, burned the bin bag, scooped up the ashes and buried the ashes in the ground. I then peed on the ashes and a flower grew. I then kicked the shit out of the flower. It’s a long road back from here, penalty miss changed the game. Please God not another 9 nil… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 minute ago, Mr X said: Call me reactionary but get someone new in now while there's time, someone more attack minded, don't care about attractive football, someone who gives us a chance of scraping survival. The club knew Martin was going to be a disaster at this level and that's exactly how it's turnt out! If they knew he was going to be a disaster at this level, they wouldn't have given him a contract extension, would they?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) I'm not sure this squad can play much better than that for the first 35 minutes. Martin changed the shape. Lesley looks very good, Suga and Dibling are class. I still think KWP is not a good left back though at this level. I'd play Taylor with KWP in front. If we take a competent penalty, it's a completely different game. Unfortunately, we've given two very soft goals away. Need to see the replays to get appropriately angry with any culprit. If it's Stephens then that's on Martin, I guess. Still, I think we look much better than abject relegation fodder and I'm confident we'll pick up some points before long. It would be very handy if Stewart turns out to be class. Let's give Cornet and Lallana a crack soon. Edited September 14 by benjii 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobysaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Disappointing but it’s fine margins in the Prem. Hopefully this may be the wake up call for Martin about Jack Stephens costing us again. Dibling has been quality, Ramsdale has made some great saves. It’s not all doom and gloom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Just now, Viking Saint said: Correct, neither were good enough two seasons ago and are still not good enough now. That neither have been successfully replaced in two seasons speaks for itself It's Martin's naivety. He thinks he knows better because they were able to pass it around freely in the championship - never mind the multiple mistakes a game they Stephens made which 9/10 times didn't matter because it was championship strikers, but in the Prem 9/10 we'll concede from them. Not only that but he changed the formation to get Stephens back in, throwing THB off from everything he's ever known, and has now dropped him because of it. Our starting centrebacks in all seriousness should be THB and ABK but we're not only picking the inferior pairing but giving them long term contracts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Just now, Turkish said: They gave him a new contract. Yes but why? Too scared to make the difficult decisions? Martin cheap option? Everyone knew he wouldn't cut it at this level they have been preparing for a championship push again nothing more and seem content with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Looks like we're going to be " unlucky " in yet another game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 2 minutes ago, Edmonton Saint said: The problem is that Stephens and Bednarek together have never been good enough. Going back aeons. Stephens is very limited, but Martin backed himself into a corner by making him captain . Yes, he has backed himself into a corner with Stephens; and Bednarek is borderline good enough at best. Martin must put his faith in THB and get ABK up to speed. Jack Stephens has to be replaced. There are many promising aspects today - Downes, Les Ugo, Sugawara and Dibling. Bring Cornet and Lallana on. Archer and BBD off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Stephens played them all onside - guaranteed starter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 We genuinely looked good for a spell, but as soon as the heads drop then we just fall apart. Archer and BBD are anonymous, not sure it's entirely their fault. We aren't even winning the possession now, heads went completely after that second goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's There Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 The difference is utd know how to finish. Saints played well, missed the pen, and suffered. I still think this is close to our best team. Dibbling and Ramsdale class. Let’s see if saints can go for it t his second half. We will see the Loch Ness Drogba with 15 mins to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 BBD must have thought his agent was winding him up when he told him a premier league club was in for him. We’re playing with 10 men every week with that cart horse jogging about on the left wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 2 minutes ago, Viking Saint said: If they knew he was going to be a disaster at this level, they wouldn't have given him a contract extension, would they?? But literally every commentator knew Russ ball wouldn't work at this level they all said it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Am genuinely angry about this. We finally get a fucking penalty against Man U, can't remember when that last happened, and that's the best we can muster. Captain fucking marvel then does his usual brain fart and gifts them a goal and the game gets flipped on its head. Am turning the news on to remind myself there are things that really matter going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 minute ago, Mr X said: Yes but why? Too scared to make the difficult decisions? Martin cheap option? Everyone knew he wouldn't cut it at this level they have been preparing for a championship push again nothing more and seem content with that This management group seems to put too much stock in putting on a display of supporting the manager. Did it last time in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 If Bednarek is one centre half, the other needs to be either ABK or THB. How many more games do we have to watch Stephens aimlessly ball watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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