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Dman

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44 minutes ago, LGTL said:

What a fucking awful loan signing he was 

He's hardly had any game time over the last year though. I think theres a player in there, we've seen that for Lyon and Burnely. 

I'd be tempted to give him a run of games and see if he can pick up a bit of form, he's certainly no worse than Fraser or Manning who've been played out there in recent weeks. 

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Dman

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41 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Another player not suited to this slow possession based system I feel.

Intresting comment. 

Much like Pep at City, this ridged style really doesn't seem to suit traditional wingers who like to play on the shoulder and beat a man. 

Given the players we have, we simply have to become more direct and get the like of Archer, Sulemana, Cornet playing off the shoulder and running onto balls inbehind quicker. 

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badgerx16

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37 minutes ago, Dman said:

Intresting comment. 

Much like Pep at City, this ridged style really doesn't seem to suit traditional wingers who like to play on the shoulder and beat a man. 

Given the players we have, we simply have to become more direct and get the like of Archer, Sulemana, Cornet playing off the shoulder and running onto balls inbehind quicker. 

Good luck explaining that to Russ.

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Kenilworthy

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Not so long ago he came to St Mary's with Burnley and was Antonio-style unplayable. I thought he was a cracking signing when West Ham got him. But it looks like all the ability and confidence has been sucked out of him. Still better than BBD though

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2 hours ago, Dman said:

Intresting comment. 

Much like Pep at City, this ridged style really doesn't seem to suit traditional wingers who like to play on the shoulder and beat a man. 

Given the players we have, we simply have to become more direct and get the like of Archer, Sulemana, Cornet playing off the shoulder and running onto balls inbehind quicker. 

Exactly. We have signed multiple players who are good at this (see also SAA and potentially the now ditched Edozie) and then coached them to play slow and sideways, and probably getting told off if they ever dare take someone on or use a bit of skill to beat someone (rather than pass it 10 yards to an opposing player).

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Suhari

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12 minutes ago, disconnect said:

Exactly. We have signed multiple players who are good at this (see also SAA and potentially the now ditched Edozie) and then coached them to play slow and sideways, and probably getting told off if they ever dare take someone on or use a bit of skill to beat someone (rather than pass it 10 yards to an opposing player).

Yep.

I have been mulling over the attributes required for a player to excel in a team dedicated to Russball. I don't thinkwe have any.

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Greenridge

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1 hour ago, stevematthews635 said:

He is s**t and that is why West Ham don't want him.  There's plenty to criticize Martin for, but Cornet being s**t is not one

Is he not part of the committee that is responsible for incoming players?

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DrunkenSaint

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yet another last minute loan signing that we didnt really need and yes he's pretty crap. We should of used Sam Amo instead and got him experience instead of giving experience to other clubs players.

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Whitey Grandad

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8 hours ago, Dman said:

He's hardly had any game time over the last year though. I think theres a player in there, we've seen that for Lyon and Burnely. 

I'd be tempted to give him a run of games and see if he can pick up a bit of form, he's certainly no worse than Fraser or Manning who've been played out there in recent weeks. 

Can we really afford to experiment?

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2 hours ago, DrunkenSaint said:

yet another last minute loan signing that we didnt really need and yes he's pretty crap. We should have used Sam Amo instead and got him experience instead of giving experience to other clubs players.

SAA didn’t look ready at Championship level, we need players who can do a job now, in the PL. That’s not Cornet on recent showing but I’d rather have him in the squad than Sam.

Dman

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8 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Yes. Just throwing players in at random is never going to create a team and is going to get us nowhere. Which is exactly where we are now.

Just continue playing Fraser and Manning or BBD who are clearly not up to the level then. 

Nordic Saint

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We certainly collected some dross this summer, several of them players who play in the same position: wide left. It's patently obvious that our recruitment team don't know what they're doing. A cursory glance at Cornet's games over the last couple of years should have told them he wouldn't be good enough. But, they seem to think that the incredible manager and coaches we have here will miraculously revive the careers of washed up players like Cornet, who other Premier League clubs, with their inferior managers and coaches, couldn't. Maybe our incredible manager convinced them that he could. Let's face it, he must have been heavily involved in the decision to bring them here.

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What's pretty embarassing is that Edozie (although his end product was sometimes a bit suspect) has been loaned out but I'd say is better and offers more than any of Cornet, Sulemana, Fraser, Brereton-Diaz and Manning (did he play left wing?). Really a weak point in a team full of weak points.

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Holmes_and_Watson

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6 minutes ago, disconnect said:

What's pretty embarassing is that Edozie (although his end product was sometimes a bit suspect) has been loaned out but I'd say is better and offers more than any of Cornet, Sulemana, Fraser, Brereton-Diaz and Manning (did he play left wing?). Really a weak point in a team full of weak points.

Edozie did actually score a few last season, the same number of league goals as Fraser I think.

Fraser made an immediate impact when we got him. He's experienced and I had no issues with the deal bringing him here, even as that impact faded a bit as he fell into our system.

Sule was frozen out. Showed some pace but no end product. Even less than Sam.

BBD is wasted out there.

Cornet is better than what we saw against Stoke. He's very match rusty, and his own reactions showed that. He wasn't happy how it went any more than we were. But Sam offered more.

Presumably AA and Dibling are other options out there too.

I thought Sam was improving this season, and was looking forward to seeing more of him.

All of them, like our other attackers, suffer with the system. We try to move teams around from such deep positions that attackers have a lot of work to do as a unit to get any chances.

Stoke played compact and narrow, allowing AA some freedom on the right. Others are less narrow, but compact and we struggle to get anything going from our passing across our back line.

Before he left, Sam was trying a number of different things, often having to wait for support.

With our bloated squad and struggling results, a season away will hopefully get him more game time. He can use the things he's developed under Martin with his own strengths. We should get a better player back.

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Osvaldorama

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Credit where credit’s due, the club have actually managed to get 3 or 4 of the worst wingers I’ve ever seen into one squad, at the same time. 
 

You could go down to a random sports field in Southampton on a Saturday/Sunday, pick out any random player, and they honestly couldn’t be worse than this lad, BBD and Sulemana. Absolutely shite 

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lhammondo

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19 minutes ago, Edmonton Saint said:

I wonder if we can end this loan early in January? Complete and utter failure and waste of wages.

I wouldn't be surprised if the brains' trust agreed to an obligation to buy.

Badger

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29 minutes ago, benjii said:

If you're being kept out of a prem squad by Brereton Diaz you've got serious problems.

And when neither of them feature for a few weeks clearly the problems lie deeper 

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Gloucester Saint

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10 hours ago, SaintNewForest said:

Him & Lesley are criminal uses of our PL loan spots 

Lesley is a contender for our worst ever XI. What possessed Chelsea to spend £23m on him is anyone’s guess. Poor touch, lumbering, gives the ball away and a clumsy tackler. Not the Victor type DM we thought we were getting. To balance that a bit, not sure Russell’s training methods or style of play do him any favours either. Lavia would have struggled too and even Downes has this year, and he’s supposed to be Russell’s fulcrum.

Cornet is a quality player who badly needed games but again, not suited to the testimonial pace, Burnley and Lyon play much quicker, and started ok at West Ham before that long-term muscle injury. Hard to judge him properly. 

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lhammondo

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On 11/11/2024 at 05:55, Gloucester Saint said:

Lesley is a contender for our worst ever XI. What possessed Chelsea to spend £23m on him is anyone’s guess. Poor touch, lumbering, gives the ball away and a clumsy tackler. Not the Victor type DM we thought we were getting. To balance that a bit, not sure Russell’s training methods or style of play do him any favours either. Lavia would have struggled too and even Downes has this year, and he’s supposed to be Russell’s fulcrum.

Cornet is a quality player who badly needed games but again, not suited to the testimonial pace, Burnley and Lyon play much quicker, and started ok at West Ham before that long-term muscle injury. Hard to judge him properly. 

When he (les) made his debut in the EFL cup, some on here were lauding him as the 2nd coming, figure that! He utterly stinks. As for cornet, he is hugely disappointing thus far. 

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HKsaint

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On 11/11/2024 at 16:58, bangkoksaint said:

And to think we could potentially have got JWP on loan🤦‍♀️

Imagine JWP would have at least scored one or two free kicks for us

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stknowle

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On 10/11/2024 at 21:54, SaintNewForest said:

Him & Lesley are criminal uses of our PL loan spots 

There was a lot of talk on here in the summer - correctly - ref how crucial our use of the loan market would be to our chances. Those 2 loans needed to be real difference makers, key week in week out starters who we could likely never afford to buy but could pay a good wage to due to no fees - and we’ve ended up with those two 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 

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