Saint_clark Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Why is Stephens being given a free role to play at CB but just roam wherever he wants on the pitch? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: We went all through the emotion of a play off win to get promoted, then to play the most negative football when we get there. No point in us getting that promotion if we are going to play like this every season. I would honestly sack Martin now, his loyalty and stubborness will see us relegated long before the end of the season. But getting relegated is a good thing, cos we don't have to play in this piece of shit league. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintInExile Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Well this is bad… Need to drop the 5 at the back - it’s not working. THB will take the flack for the goal but whoever played it back to him stitched him up. Two players on him instantly. Martin needs to forget loyalty. It doesn’t win you points. Having Premier League quality players does and it is blatantly obvious that Stephen’s, Smallbone, Aribo and Armstrong are not that. Need the manager to show a bit of his own ‘bravery’ and make big changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Hilarious that some were touting Martin earlier today as some managerial guru. The fact is he's tactically naive and has shown nothing thus far to suggest he can manage at this level. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: We went all through the emotion of a play off win to get promoted, then to play the most negative football when we get there. No point in us getting that promotion if we are going to play like this every season. I would honestly sack Martin now, his loyalty and stubborness will see us relegated long before the end of the season. Very frustrating, whilst this game isn’t over, presuming we lose it will be 0 points from 9. With a different approach it could have been 3 points against Forest and a point today should have been achievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 I’m calling it early…..we won’t get a single point this season 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, Mallagroth said: This is not as bad as everyone is saying. The pairing of Aribo and small bone is the glaring issue, the failure to keep the ball moving through midfield means it’s coming back over and over again into the danger areas, it’s also why we end up horseshoe passing so often as they just aren’t creative enough midfield players at this level and Too static. But we all know that, the only one who’s burying his head in the sand is bloody RM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, whelk said: I’m calling it early…..we won’t get a single point this season I bet you £10k we do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, Saint_clark said: Why is Stephens being given a free role to play at CB but just roam wherever he wants on the pitch? Didn’t you hear the forum on Solent? To quote RM “Jacks great, he can do whatever he wants” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWLondon Saint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Haven't seen the build up to the goal yet but it seems like the team just doesn't know what to do in transition after losing the ball. 3 at the back can work fine, it does for Alonso at Leverkusen but they put massive pressure on the ball as soon as they lose it in midfield and that just isn't happening here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, Farmer Saint said: I bet you £10k we do. I was tempted to say we won’t score a goal either 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Sweepstake on timing of the first sub? Im going with 55 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Opponents will be looking forward to RM's Saints gifting them 3 points. This slow walking backwards football deep in our own half is being easily countered and not helped by occasional easy chances up front being squandered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 3 minutes ago, Jack said: After the last couple of games I'd be tempted to drop THB rather than Stephens. THB is still learning the game at this level. Aribo has also been ok but otherwise that team looks better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Honestly don’t see how anyone can put today down to the formation. We’ve been very much in the game. It’s suicidal play at the back they are being dictated to do which would be there if we had a 4 too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 We still have better possession. Don’t be panic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, beatlesaint said: Didn’t you hear the forum on Solent? To quote RM “Jacks great, he can do whatever he wants” Did he actually say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, whelk said: I was tempted to say we won’t score a goal either I think that's the safer bet tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 (edited) I thought Newcastle were poor. We gifted them 3 points. I thought Nottm Forest were poor. We gifted them 2 points. Brentford have looked really sloppy so far but here we are AGAIN gifting goals and chances How is this the way to play Russ. How is this good, effective or even entertaining Russ. It's shit and I hate it. Edited August 31 by OttawaSaint 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, Baird of the land said: Honestly don’t see how anyone can put today down to the formation. We’ve been very much in the game. It’s suicidal play at the back they are being dictated to do which would be there if we had a 4 too we have almost zero goal threat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, SNSUN said: After the last couple of games I'd be tempted to drop THB rather than Stephens. THB is still learning the game at this level. Aribo has also been ok but otherwise that team looks better. THB won't learn this level from the bench and we know Stephens ability ceiling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, Saint_clark said: Did he actually say that? He did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Dragan should sack Russ at half-time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 We need owners strong enough to say to Martin ditch the fucking around with the ball at the back or your gone..... It Isn't going to happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Russell Martin is after the Bayern Munich job 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 3 minutes ago, Zorba said: Russell Martin "I said to the guys 'if we are going to lose we are going to lose our way' That’s alright then Russ.. Carry on! Yeah, fill your boots mate if it floats your boat, Stubborn as a mule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Russball found out, again. Arma, Stephens, Smallbone, Aribo, THB (hugely disappointing this so far this season) All fucking shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, AlexLaw76 said: we have almost zero goal threat We’ve created chances today. Our strikers are aren’t great but neither are the ones on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 With the window closing the owners have given us more than a chance of survival.……….unfortunately RM has other ideas and we’ll return to where we came from if he persists with these tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, Baird of the land said: We’ve created chances today. Our strikers are aren’t great but neither are the ones on the bench. we have almost zero goal threat..You can stat it up as much as you like but we are generally not a threat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 5 minutes ago, Mr X said: Is he in denial? everyone in the country can see our players aren't good enough to play it out from the back except him! But he'll always believe he's right I'm afraid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 I don't mind the Russball out of defense. I like excitement! Yes, there are disasters, but overall it gives our team something unique. When it works it's sublime. Against the chances it gives up, you have to stack up all the chances it avoids (by extra possession, and by avoid the long-ball likely giveaways). What I DO mind is Adam Armstrong. He's been really weak this year. Love his energy, but he gives away the ball so many times... and misses like the one we just had are infuriating. Sub him for Dibling. Or for anyone. (And I'd also prefer 4-3-3 w Fernandes on for Stephens...) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 9 minutes ago, SaintTex said: 2 1/2 matches into the season. anyone noticing a trend? Yes. We have most of the possession, make fewer shots on goal than our opponents, play with AA and BBD upfront and fail to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 6 minutes ago, Zorba said: Russell Martin "I said to the guys 'if we are going to lose we are going to lose our way' That’s alright then Russ.. Carry on! Nothing wrong with that providing there isn't another way to play that will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 A competent manager would have this squad being a lot more competitve than we are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 HT: Martin will look at our high possession. We've had just fewer shots, the same on target, and we have missed a couple of very good chances. We were already under pressure as our temp and transation were not up to PL standard. Shooting ourselves in the foot on multiple occassions cost us. Ramsdale's long kicks give away control. KWP is still better on the right. Both fullbacks give us some moments of happiness, as it looks as though we'll get an attack. Howver, neither was great at adding to our controlled passing through the midfield, in the way we used inverted fullbacks last season. Suga's cross to AA was our best chance though. THB is a better player than this. A couple of odd wobbles of late. Bedders and Ramsdale lpaired up well. Our midfield offered very little in terms of transition. Aribo a bit more physically, and Downes doing a lot of lifting for all three, and also ran through. Smallbone is having one of those games where he's not able to add anything. He's not linking up with anyone, not being pushed forwards either. Stephens in the side often means he gets bypassed too. His bodyshape makes him look a bit slower than he actually is. But has been caught out more than once. AA has had chances. He suffered when not scorign early on in his last PL season. Clearly feels some pressure on him. BBD hasn't done much yet. Wayward shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Saints have had 62% possession, mostly in walking around slowly in their own half. RM will be delighted no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Would he be another Nathan Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeG Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 What happened to playing your way into the side. Dibbling, Fernandes, Ugochuckwu, Archer should have all started today. We all know it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, LeG said: What happened to playing your way into the side. Dibbling, Fernandes, Ugochuckwu, Archer should have all started today. We all know it. aye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: we have almost zero goal threat..You can stat it up as much as you like but we are generally not a threat And when we do have a threat, we fuckin miss almost open goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, HKsaint said: Would he be another Nathan Jones? bet he ends up not being that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallaghert366@yahoo.com Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 4 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Sweepstake on timing of the first sub? Im going with 55 minutes. Once the second goal goes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 4 minutes ago, HKsaint said: We still have better possession. Don’t be panic Too late HK my old pal, I be panicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 OMFG this thread. And I thought the footie was bad. Embarrassing stuff. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 (edited) OK I'm gonna try and find some positives here... We have actually created some chances, unlike last week. With better finishing we could well have scored a couple, so I'm not feeling quite as hopeless about our attacking play than some are. Aribo hasn't been *that* bad. A lot of our good stuff going forward has gone through him on the left. If we could just stop gifting the ball to Brentford by fannying about with it, things wouldn't be looking so bad. Edited August 31 by Sheaf Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 If Lucy is a true fan she'll withdraw 'privileges' until Russ stops the suicidal defensive passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Other managers are simply saying, "apply a bit of pressure and Saints defenders will literally give you the ball". RM is so fucking stubborn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveGc Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 More actual running coming,out of the tunnel than all game lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Yes!! Love the subs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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