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saintant

saintant

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1 minute ago, Greedyfly said:

Yep I have no idea what's going on with this line up either unless only to severe to prove once again that AA can't play as a number 9.

 

ABK should have started as should Stewart if actually fit. 

I mean how many times does RM need to watch AA to realise he cannot play the number nine role.

SNSUN

SNSUN

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3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Unless ABK has made a pass at Pinder, he should be on the bench as a minimum. 

He met Pinder on Tinder but binned 'er.

OttawaSaint

OttawaSaint

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4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Unless ABK has made a pass at Pinder, he should be on the bench as a minimum. 

Explains a few of his lineups, many of our team incapable of making a pass...

gecko

gecko

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24 minutes ago, ant said:

You can say all you want about concentrating on the league, but they've got until Saturday before we play next. 

Given the number of new players in our league starting lineup, wouldn't it make more sense to put out a team closer to that, in order to give them bonus time to gel?

This seems the worst of both worlds, i.e. the likes of SAA are missing valuable game time whilst we're not learning anything of tangible value for the rest of the season.

Couldn't agree more. 

It's Tuesday night, they have the best part of 5 days to recover. And we all know the 1st team need to sort the results out; this was a free hit to build some confidence 

Instead, we have Nathan Wood...

Badger

Badger

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1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Has there ever been a case of ‘player gets infinitely better when not in the team’ than TP and ABK.

 

Players don't go from Germany World Cup squad to shit in just over a season normally. But perhaps ABK is the exception to the rule.

SNSUN

SNSUN

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3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

No one seriously thinks wood and Edwards are good enough to play in the prem. 

Signed as back ups that won't go anywhere if we go down. At least Ronnie has decent potential, I'm just not sure about Wood. I gauge player signings on what fans think when they leave to join us. Sporting fans were gutted when we signed Fernandes, that suggests we got a good player. Swansea fans were delighted when they got money for Wood so...

obelisk

obelisk

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1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Has there ever been a case of ‘player gets infinitely better when not in the team’ than TP and ABK.

 

Anyone outside a team that can't score and concedes a hatful has to be on a winner. Looking on with a smirk while coining it too. 😋

saintnick

saintnick

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Maybe ABK and TP can’t be arsed in Training and don’t deserve a place in the squad. I’m sure RM has considered them. Just saying as we don’t know what happens behind closed doors do we ? 

saintant

saintant

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8 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Blackmore questioning why ABK and TP aren't playing on Solent. Bet he doesn't ask Martin after the game why they aren't.

He might risk it if we win but he knows RM is always feisty after a defeat.

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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I'm not being funny, how many of you guys complaining are watching the players train day in, day out? 

I can imagine Onuachu is not the best player for Martin's system, as I'm sure most of you would agree. Unless you're proposing we change our playing mentality and tactics to cater for a striker who's never shown he can do anything in the English League. 

As said previously, ABK's attitude was awful when with us before and he had burnt his bridges. I'm not aware if whether those bridges have been mended, but I'm guessing not.

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ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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1 minute ago, Badger said:

Players don't go from Germany World Cup squad to shit in just over a season normally. But perhaps ABK is the exception to the rule.

Don’t think it’s a case of ability (though think his ability is being somewhat exaggerated at the moment, bearing in mind what’s happening on the pitch), more attitude and application.

Lee On Solent Saint

Lee On Solent Saint

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2 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

 

Signed as back ups that won't go anywhere if we go down. At least Ronnie has decent potential, I'm just not sure about Wood. I gauge player signings on what fans think when they leave to join us. Sporting fans were gutted when we signed Fernandes, that suggests we got a good player. Swansea fans were delighted when they got money for Wood so...

Swansea fans were delighted when Martin left too!

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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Just now, ErwinK1961 said:

Don’t think it’s a case of ability (though think his ability is being somewhat exaggerated at the moment, bearing in mind what’s happening on the pitch), more attitude and application.

Well he played in the last round so what harm would there have been giving him a chance a half in this game to see if he's up to it? If he's better than our other cb options then he should play. 

Badger

Badger

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1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Don’t think it’s a case of ability (though think his ability is being somewhat exaggerated at the moment, bearing in mind what’s happening on the pitch), more attitude and application.

Fair point.

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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33 minutes ago, saintstowin said:

At least Dibling on the bench shows he's going to get another start in the league this Saturday.

The Sunday Times said that he was substituted on Saturday because of cramp.

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Lee On Solent Saint

Lee On Solent Saint

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1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

I'm not being funny, how many of you guys complaining are watching the players train day in, day out? 

I can imagine Onuachu is not the best player for Martin's system, as I'm sure most of you would agree. Unless you're proposing we change our playing mentality and tactics to cater for a striker who's never shown he can do anything in the English League. 

Not counting Onuacho, but I would have liked to have seen ABK be brought back in. Potentially the guy is going to be just training until January. At the very least we should be using these games to get him fit and show clubs that he can still play.

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ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Well he played in the last round so what harm would there have been giving him a chance a half in this game to see if he's up to it? If he's better than our other cb options then he should play. 

He played to demonstrate he was fit to buying teams. Didn’t work out.

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said:

He played to demonstrate he was fit to buying teams. Didn’t work out.

And even in that short cameo he was the best cb in that game. Seems an odd move not to try him. 

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ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

And even in that short cameo he was the best cb in that game. Seems an odd move not to try him. 

Not when he was part of the clique the year we went down and he doesn’t want to be here.

washsaint

washsaint

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REckon that's a line up screaming 'sack me'.  How else can get Wood get a start  and such a mediocre front line.  Surely to god, TP, ABK and SAA were worth a start ahead of this motley crew who are garbage.

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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Just now, ErwinK1961 said:

Not when he was part of the clique the year we went down and he doesn’t want to be here.

That's all speculation. A top man manager would get the player to understand he's here until January and if he performs well until then he can go to a top team for big money. 

Bad Wolf

Bad Wolf

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26 minutes ago, obelisk said:

No ABK. No Tall Paul. A real defender and a bloke who scores goals. This manager needs to go.

Yeah, remember that one good game he had that one time?

Bad Wolf

Bad Wolf

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1 minute ago, washsaint said:

REckon that's a line up screaming 'sack me'.  How else can get Wood get a start  and such a mediocre front line.  Surely to god, TP, ABK and SAA were worth a start ahead of this motley crew who are garbage.

Would anyone actually blame him? Getting a multi million pound pay out for a job that the customers spend every game calling you every name under the sun?

egg

egg

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49 minutes ago, saintant said:

It does smack of picking his mates to be honest.

Yep. He loves them he said, and he didn't enjoy dropping them. 

ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

That's all speculation. A top man manager would get the player to understand he's here until January and if he performs well until then he can go to a top team for big money. 

It’s not.

Greedyfly

Greedyfly

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33 minutes ago, saintant said:

I mean how many times does RM need to watch AA to realise he cannot play the number nine role.

But but he asked to play there really nicely..... So you know. Brave.

egg

egg

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4 minutes ago, washsaint said:

REckon that's a line up screaming 'sack me'.  How else can get Wood get a start  and such a mediocre front line.  Surely to god, TP, ABK and SAA were worth a start ahead of this motley crew who are garbage.

Not sure I see that. He's got a lot of players to keep ticking over. I suspect ABK and TP omissions are political decisions, and Wood over Edwards is probably cos he's played at a higher level. You could make a case for any 2 out of SAA, Cornet and Fraser.  

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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If we're getting limited time from a 36 year old Lallana, I don't see the benefit in playing him in a nothing game like this. Would much rather give him 60 minutes against Ipswich alongside Dibling. 

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