Everton 1-1 (5-6p) Saints - Match Thread

[saintant]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:13, Greedyfly said:

Yep I have no idea what's going on with this line up either unless only to severe to prove once again that AA can't play as a number 9.

 

ABK should have started as should Stewart if actually fit. 

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I mean how many times does RM need to watch AA to realise he cannot play the number nine role.

[obelisk]

No ABK. No Tall Paul. A real defender and a bloke who scores goals. This manager needs to go.

[hypochondriac]

Unless ABK has made a pass at Pinder, he should be on the bench as a minimum. 

[SNSUN]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:18, hypochondriac said:

Unless ABK has made a pass at Pinder, he should be on the bench as a minimum. 

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He met Pinder on Tinder but binned 'er.

[steve green]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:18, hypochondriac said:

Unless ABK has made a pass at Pinder, he should be on the bench as a minimum. 

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Bloody 'ell, he can pass!

 

Get him on.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Blackmore questioning why ABK and TP aren't playing on Solent. Bet he doesn't ask Martin after the game why they aren't.

[OttawaSaint]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:18, hypochondriac said:

Unless ABK has made a pass at Pinder, he should be on the bench as a minimum. 

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Explains a few of his lineups, many of our team incapable of making a pass...

[OttawaSaint]

This'll be just the tonic to jumpstart the season...for Everton.

[Sheaf Saint]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:16, Suhari said:

I really shouldn't have decided on a 'no drinking' week.

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[gecko]

  On 17/09/2024 at 17:58, ant said:

You can say all you want about concentrating on the league, but they've got until Saturday before we play next. 

Given the number of new players in our league starting lineup, wouldn't it make more sense to put out a team closer to that, in order to give them bonus time to gel?

This seems the worst of both worlds, i.e. the likes of SAA are missing valuable game time whilst we're not learning anything of tangible value for the rest of the season.

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Couldn't agree more. 

It's Tuesday night, they have the best part of 5 days to recover. And we all know the 1st team need to sort the results out; this was a free hit to build some confidence 

Instead, we have Nathan Wood...

[hypochondriac]

No one seriously thinks wood and Edwards are good enough to play in the prem. 

[Saint NL]

I have a feeling it's going to penalties tonight.

Archer to step up and take the decisive 5th penalty.....

[ErwinK1961]

Has there ever been a case of ‘player gets infinitely better when not in the team’ than TP and ABK.

 

[Badger]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:29, ErwinK1961 said:

Has there ever been a case of ‘player gets infinitely better when not in the team’ than TP and ABK.

 

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Players don't go from Germany World Cup squad to shit in just over a season normally. But perhaps ABK is the exception to the rule.

[SNSUN]

 

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:27, hypochondriac said:

No one seriously thinks wood and Edwards are good enough to play in the prem. 

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Signed as back ups that won't go anywhere if we go down. At least Ronnie has decent potential, I'm just not sure about Wood. I gauge player signings on what fans think when they leave to join us. Sporting fans were gutted when we signed Fernandes, that suggests we got a good player. Swansea fans were delighted when they got money for Wood so...

[obelisk]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:29, ErwinK1961 said:

Has there ever been a case of ‘player gets infinitely better when not in the team’ than TP and ABK.

 

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Anyone outside a team that can't score and concedes a hatful has to be on a winner. Looking on with a smirk while coining it too. 😋

[saintnick]

Maybe ABK and TP can’t be arsed in Training and don’t deserve a place in the squad. I’m sure RM has considered them. Just saying as we don’t know what happens behind closed doors do we ? 

[saintant]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:23, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Blackmore questioning why ABK and TP aren't playing on Solent. Bet he doesn't ask Martin after the game why they aren't.

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He might risk it if we win but he knows RM is always feisty after a defeat.

[Farmer Saint]

I'm not being funny, how many of you guys complaining are watching the players train day in, day out? 

I can imagine Onuachu is not the best player for Martin's system, as I'm sure most of you would agree. Unless you're proposing we change our playing mentality and tactics to cater for a striker who's never shown he can do anything in the English League. 

As said previously, ABK's attitude was awful when with us before and he had burnt his bridges. I'm not aware if whether those bridges have been mended, but I'm guessing not.

Edited 17 September, 2024 by Farmer Saint

[ErwinK1961]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:31, Badger said:

Players don't go from Germany World Cup squad to shit in just over a season normally. But perhaps ABK is the exception to the rule.

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Don’t think it’s a case of ability (though think his ability is being somewhat exaggerated at the moment, bearing in mind what’s happening on the pitch), more attitude and application.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:32, SNSUN said:

 

Signed as back ups that won't go anywhere if we go down. At least Ronnie has decent potential, I'm just not sure about Wood. I gauge player signings on what fans think when they leave to join us. Sporting fans were gutted when we signed Fernandes, that suggests we got a good player. Swansea fans were delighted when they got money for Wood so...

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Swansea fans were delighted when Martin left too!

[hypochondriac]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:34, ErwinK1961 said:

Don’t think it’s a case of ability (though think his ability is being somewhat exaggerated at the moment, bearing in mind what’s happening on the pitch), more attitude and application.

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Well he played in the last round so what harm would there have been giving him a chance a half in this game to see if he's up to it? If he's better than our other cb options then he should play. 

[Badger]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:34, ErwinK1961 said:

Don’t think it’s a case of ability (though think his ability is being somewhat exaggerated at the moment, bearing in mind what’s happening on the pitch), more attitude and application.

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Fair point.

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:06, saintstowin said:

At least Dibling on the bench shows he's going to get another start in the league this Saturday.

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The Sunday Times said that he was substituted on Saturday because of cramp.

Edited 17 September, 2024 by Whitey Grandad

[Lee On Solent Saint]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:33, Farmer Saint said:

I'm not being funny, how many of you guys complaining are watching the players train day in, day out? 

I can imagine Onuachu is not the best player for Martin's system, as I'm sure most of you would agree. Unless you're proposing we change our playing mentality and tactics to cater for a striker who's never shown he can do anything in the English League. 

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Not counting Onuacho, but I would have liked to have seen ABK be brought back in. Potentially the guy is going to be just training until January. At the very least we should be using these games to get him fit and show clubs that he can still play.

[ErwinK1961]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:34, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Swansea fans were delighted when Martin left too!

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That’s worked out well for them.

[ErwinK1961]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:35, hypochondriac said:

Well he played in the last round so what harm would there have been giving him a chance a half in this game to see if he's up to it? If he's better than our other cb options then he should play. 

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He played to demonstrate he was fit to buying teams. Didn’t work out.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:37, ErwinK1961 said:

That’s worked out well for them.

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Has it? Not really interested 

[hypochondriac]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:37, ErwinK1961 said:

He played to demonstrate he was fit to buying teams. Didn’t work out.

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And even in that short cameo he was the best cb in that game. Seems an odd move not to try him. 

[ErwinK1961]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:39, hypochondriac said:

And even in that short cameo he was the best cb in that game. Seems an odd move not to try him. 

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Not when he was part of the clique the year we went down and he doesn’t want to be here.

[washsaint]

REckon that's a line up screaming 'sack me'.  How else can get Wood get a start  and such a mediocre front line.  Surely to god, TP, ABK and SAA were worth a start ahead of this motley crew who are garbage.

[hypochondriac]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:42, ErwinK1961 said:

Not when he was part of the clique the year we went down and he doesn’t want to be here.

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That's all speculation. A top man manager would get the player to understand he's here until January and if he performs well until then he can go to a top team for big money. 

[SNSUN]

Nice one Sky, Fraser in DM according to their line up schematic, Lesley right wing. 😁

[Bad Wolf]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:17, obelisk said:

No ABK. No Tall Paul. A real defender and a bloke who scores goals. This manager needs to go.

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Yeah, remember that one good game he had that one time?

[Saint_clark]

Martins stubbornness will see us go out tonight and lose every game till he is sacked.

[Bad Wolf]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:42, washsaint said:

REckon that's a line up screaming 'sack me'.  How else can get Wood get a start  and such a mediocre front line.  Surely to god, TP, ABK and SAA were worth a start ahead of this motley crew who are garbage.

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Would anyone actually blame him? Getting a multi million pound pay out for a job that the customers spend every game calling you every name under the sun?

[Bad Wolf]

Stream anyone?

[northam soul]

Any streams please 

[egg]

  On 17/09/2024 at 17:53, saintant said:

It does smack of picking his mates to be honest.

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Yep. He loves them he said, and he didn't enjoy dropping them. 

[St Louis]

I’m guessing Arma didn’t react well to being dropped at the weekend, given THB has the captaincy tonight! Or am I putting two and two together…

[ErwinK1961]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:44, hypochondriac said:

That's all speculation. A top man manager would get the player to understand he's here until January and if he performs well until then he can go to a top team for big money. 

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It’s not.

[obelisk]

Tippy tappy in defence. Give the ball away. Concede free kick.

[SNSUN]

Lallana may be a lot of things and knocking on a bit now but he's the one we need to keep things ticking over today. 

[Greedyfly]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:16, saintant said:

I mean how many times does RM need to watch AA to realise he cannot play the number nine role.

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But but he asked to play there really nicely..... So you know. Brave.

[egg]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:42, washsaint said:

REckon that's a line up screaming 'sack me'.  How else can get Wood get a start  and such a mediocre front line.  Surely to god, TP, ABK and SAA were worth a start ahead of this motley crew who are garbage.

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Not sure I see that. He's got a lot of players to keep ticking over. I suspect ABK and TP omissions are political decisions, and Wood over Edwards is probably cos he's played at a higher level. You could make a case for any 2 out of SAA, Cornet and Fraser.  

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Cornet putting over a deep ball, with 2 in the middle.

[hypochondriac]

If we're getting limited time from a 36 year old Lallana, I don't see the benefit in playing him in a nothing game like this. Would much rather give him 60 minutes against Ipswich alongside Dibling. 

Edited 17 September, 2024 by hypochondriac

[Convict Colony]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:46, northam soul said:

Any streams please 

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only in french https://cricfree.live/live/bein-sports-2-fr

[Convict Colony]

  On 17/09/2024 at 18:51, Convict Colony said:

only in french https://cricfree.live/live/bein-sports-2-fr

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Wait found an english one

https://easy-sport.tv/easy-game/link-sports6/

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Solid defensive work by THB. Someone used to our opponents breaking.