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Thoughts? Mixed views for me. This is probably my stone roses moment. When they reformed I was desperate for a ticket as I was a little bit too young first time round and by the time they’d sorted their shit out for the second coming album their moment had gone. I remember quite few people who’d been there in the early days didn’t bother as they had the view of been there when it mattered. Same for me with Oasis, saw them plenty of times in the 90s and 00s so not over fussed about seeing them now. (At the moment)

However whilst they weren’t the greatest musicians or songwriters in the world without doubt, like the Stone Roses before them mean an awful lot to people of a certain age group. Definitely along with Blur, Pulp, Shed Seven, the verve, Suede were the soundtrack to my teenager years. Come ticket sale day though wonder if I’ll be online like a lot of others.

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I saw Oasis at Glastonbury twice, Maine Road (Saturday), Knebworth (Saturday and The Prodigy were better) and Wembley Stadium (can't remember the night). What i do remember is two of the gigs and nearly a third being ruined by Liam having a tantrum. His ego better be in check for this upcoming series of shows. Saw Stone Roses at Wembley Arena just after Squire and Reni left not brilliant but these type of gigs are more about the communal atmosphere and everyone singing along with every word to every song. Not bothering with tickets, gave a way a ticket to the Rose Bowl as i couldn't be bothered with Liam's antics.

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First saw Oasis at Bournemouth, 5 days after what’s the story was released. Absolutely brilliant. I loved their earlier albums.

Next saw them at City of Manchester Stadium quite a few years later. Loads of scrapping going off with pissed up dickheads in the crowd, just a terrible concert atmosphere with even Liam giving it verbals from the stage for them to pack it in.

Def won’t bother with these, apparently Liam’s reviews for his latest concerts have been scathing.

And as Noel said: “Timing is everything. Even if we were to come back now, it would be just like a heritage kind of thing. It could never be the same.”

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First thing this morning my daughter messaged me. Can we go to see Oasis? Brit Pop came along when I was mid/late 30s around the time she was born. Whilst I get it, it was just background music to adulthood so it’s been something retrospective journey. Personally, now in my 60s I always appreciate finding gems that I missed in the past like Radiohead, the Manics and Richard Ashcroft/The Verve to name a few. I know there’s a lot I’ve missed out but they’re part of the exploration. Put simply, I can’t remember the last time I knowingly listened to Oasis as opposed to others I’ve mentioned so it’s a no from me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

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Was never a fan myself, so I won't be rushing to get a ticket. I can sum up my feelings towards Oasis in exactly the same way as I can about The Smiths - undoubtedly decent songwriting and musicianship, but completely ruined by having an unbearable, pretentious prick on lead vocals with a voice that grates like someone scratching a blackboard. 

Still, a lot of my mates were massively into them around the time we were all learning to drive in the mid 90s, so I have fond memories of driving around in my mate's mk3 Ford Escort with Definitely Maybe blasting out of his (most likely stolen) Kenwood stereo.

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I heard on the radio this morning, hotels around the country have already ratcheted their prices way way up for nights around the tour dates.  Some international chain hotels in Cardiff and I believe Glasgow charging around £500 a night, the worst was Edinburgh Holiday Inn Express who are apparently charging £1299 for 2 nights.

 

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10 hours ago, The Kraken said:

First saw Oasis at Bournemouth, 5 days after what’s the story was released. Absolutely brilliant. I loved their earlier albums.

Next saw them at City of Manchester Stadium quite a few years later. Loads of scrapping going off with pissed up dickheads in the crowd, just a terrible concert atmosphere with even Liam giving it verbals from the stage for them to pack it in.

Def won’t bother with these, apparently Liam’s reviews for his latest concerts have been scathing.

And as Noel said: “Timing is everything. Even if we were to come back now, it would be just like a heritage kind of thing. It could never be the same.”

Noel is right. It wasn't just about them they hit the top at a time when things in the UK were pretty good. It was cool to be British, we had great music, hosting Euro 96, London was a fashionable city for the first time since the 60s, we had great night clubs, fashion, we'd come out of the shit of the early 90s with the recession and poll tax and generally there was an optimism. I remember it being a brilliant time to be young. Compare that to now when i dont think there could be a worse time since kids were forced to go up chimneys and work in factories. 

As for Oasis themselves saw them first at Bournemouth, possibly might have been the same gig as you, IIRC Blur played in Bournemouth the same night. Did Maine Road same year as Knebworth with a load of DEF yoof, several other times in the late 90s then a few more times in the 00s, Bournemouth again where Liam seemed ill, his voiced was crap and was having coughing fits between songs, finally Slane Castle in Ireland, weekend in Dublin with the boyz, supported by Kasabian and the Prodigy which was amazing and probably the best gig i've been too. Never seen so many ruined people on one place though, some of them barely able to walk even before Kasabian were on stage. 

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2 hours ago, Guided Missile said:

Beatles tribute band in it for the money...

Everyone says Oasis are a Beatles tribute act but honestly never really seen it that way.  Can't say I'm a massive fan of the Beatles but most of their songs sound completely different to Oasis IMO.

Anyway, fair play if they want to reform for a few gigs - it'll make quite a few people happy.

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Similar to Turks. Was a huge fan during Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory years but from the third album onwards they were pretty boring and irrelevant. 

Saw them back in the day and not really interested in seeing them again now.

They never really had any stage craft or showmanship - just Liam trying to look cool, so I think it was really an "of the moment" thing.

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Two abiding memories from that era; the Gallagher brothers arguing over which one of them was John Lennon and the bickering between them and Blur as to which band was The Beatles.

If The Beatles’ Chelsea boots had had laces, neither band could have laced them.

Best moment? Peter Kay calling Liam Gallagher a knobhead at an awards ceremony.

I did like the Morning Glory album back then though.

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1 hour ago, revolution saint said:

Everyone says Oasis are a Beatles tribute act but honestly never really seen it that way.  Can't say I'm a massive fan of the Beatles but most of their songs sound completely different to Oasis IMO.

Anyway, fair play if they want to reform for a few gigs - it'll make quite a few people happy.

I agree, they were nothing like the Beatles that's all just a lazy sterotype because a few comments were made when they came out about being bigger than them etc. Noel has said many times the Stone Roses were his influence without them Oasis would never have existed. 

The first two albums and the Masterplan were 3 outstanding albums which stand up to anyone, the rest are a mixed bag, great songs on some of them but to be fair how many bands have turned our album after album which would make a lot of people top 25? 

Love him or hate Liam is a very good front man, he's got massive charisma and presence people think he's a bit of a knob and i can see why but if you see him interviewed and look beyond the front man/fake hard man front that's all for the cameras he's quite a down to earth and funny guy.

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

agree, they were nothing like the Beatles that's all just a lazy sterotype because a few comments were made when they came out about being bigger than them etc.

Revolver started topping various best Beatle album polls around the Brit pop era, whereas it had always been Pepper or Abbey Road prior to that. The look The Beatles had in ‘66 could be seen as similar as well. Myself I always thought they were more like Slade, not in style, but a great little band with decent catchy riffs, who were of their time. Like Slade, they’re probably better to have left it where it was. 
 

The greatest trick the Beatles pulled off was staying apart. Nothings as good second time around. 

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The greatest trick is dying young. Lennon, Jackson, Bowie etc all sold tons of records when they popped their clogs. Not sure how that works with streaming nowadays though?

Oasis were always going to do a reunion tour, the lure of the £ dictated that. It was just a question of when rather than if. Scary to think that was all of 30 years ago.

Great for their fans. We all have our golden age of music and I was lucky enough to grow up to The Beatles, the Stones, The Who, The Kinks, The Small Faces, The Yardbirds etc. Never saw The Beatles live which wasn’t a problem as you probably couldn’t hear them play for all the screaming, but I did catch Paul McCartney who featured many Beatles numbers in his set. Magical.

I started going to gigs in 1971 so caught the golden age of prog rock along with heavy rock. Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Wishbone Ash, Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, ELP, Genesis (Gabriel era), Yes, The Who along with Rumours era Fleetwood Mac. I found an ELP ticket for the Empire Pool, Wembley in 1974 that cost £2.30. You have to take out a second mortgage to buy concert tickets nowadays, so glad I caught those bands in their prime. Happy days.

 

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6 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Never been too much of a fan, for me Brit Pop was more Blur, Suede and Pulp. Much more a fan of the earlier "Madchester scene", Stone Roses, Happy Mondays etc. Having said that, I never saw them back in the day, so I'll look at going this time around. 

Ditto. I loved stone roses, happy mondays, James, charlatans, ocs and various other manc bands. Before that new order and joy division. I dunno why I never got into Oasis, but they just never did it for me. I think it's as simple as I found Liam's vocals a bit whiney and I thought he was a cock. 

That said, over time I've liked a lot of their stuff, and some of the boys solo stuff.

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14 minutes ago, egg said:

Ditto. I loved stone roses, happy mondays, James, charlatans, ocs and various other manc bands. Before that new order and joy division. I dunno why I never got into Oasis, but they just never did it for me. I think it's as simple as I found Liam's vocals a bit whiney and I thought he was a cock. 

That said, over time I've liked a lot of their stuff, and some of the boys solo stuff.

Ian Brown is a bigger cock. Goes with the territory 

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1 minute ago, whelk said:

Ian Brown is a bigger cock. Goes with the territory 

Fair point, but I liked his music so it was easier to look past that. 

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33 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Yep. BBC reporting on it, one hotel are claiming “technical error”. Just a coincidence that the prices have gone up by £300…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c935v1kkzjvo

Apparently, despite the booking being a "contract", if it was booked online there is a limited opportunity for the hotel to claim there was a 'technical error', so they can legally get away with it. Morally ambiguous though.

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Just now, Weston Super Saint said:

Apparently, despite the booking being a "contract", if it was booked online there is a limited opportunity for the hotel to claim there was a 'technical error', so they can legally get away with it. Morally ambiguous though.

Nowt ambiguous about their morals - it's outrageous behaviour. 

The profiteering from this for the various outside businesses will be outrageous. 

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19 minutes ago, whelk said:

Ian Brown is a bigger cock. Goes with the territory 

it was brilliant when threatened to knock out that Steve Jones bellend live on kids TV though 🤣

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25 minutes ago, Behind Enemy Lines said:

If I could chose a band from that era to reform, it would be The Shirehorses! 😂 
 

 

Going to see Mark & Lard on their reunion tour next month. I am hoping for a Shirehorses number or two.

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On 27/08/2024 at 22:35, The Kraken said:

 

 

Def won’t bother with these, apparently Liam’s reviews for his latest concerts have been scathing.

 

Quite the opposite to be fair, reviews were largely positive. Saw him at the O2 back in June and it was as good as most Oasis shows I’d seen. Even Digsys Dinner sounded great.

Saw Noel at Poole lighthouse back in march and he was equally brilliant, having seen those two shows I was convinced we didn’t need a reunion anymore but have to admit it has left me excited.

He’s a much more mature soul these days is Liam, and he’s a lot more conscious of looking after his voice. I don’t think the tour will descend into drink and drug fuelled nightmare it used to be for the brothers.

Good luck to those of you also joining the nightmare of the ticket sale Saturday morning.

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10 hours ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

So, was anyone at the Joiners 'that night'........................................?

Sadly not, I missed that one, although I've seen some cracking shows there down the years. Were you there?

As an aside, I saw on the Joiners social media that only 11 of the 34 venues on that first tour are left. Nice reminder to support these small venues. 

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11 hours ago, whelk said:

What did your tweet say? 

He had posted a set list from one of his shows. There were lots of early Oasis top tracks in there, so I thought it looked quality. However, the encore was I Am The Walrus. They used to cover this in Oasis, but I always thought it was shite.

So, I replied:

"Can do without that Walrus nonsense".

And he replied and said (I quote verbatim):

"You can go to the merch stand a by a tee shirt when that's on SMARTARSE".

 

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Did I hear right that none of the gigs are going to be filmed? Assume that it to push demand for expensive tickets.

Geldorf did something similar with Live Aid. He didn’t was the film to be released as he wanted the event to be like a “shooting star.” Given the whole point of the event was to raise money for the starving, what a stupid, precious, stance.

I’m sure they will sell out the tickets anyway, so filming it only adds to the pension fund down the line.

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16 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Did I hear right that none of the gigs are going to be filmed? Assume that it to push demand for expensive tickets.

Geldorf did something s.imilar with Live Aid. He didn’t was the film to be released as he wanted the event to be like a “shooting star.” Given the whole point of the event was to raise money for the starving, what a stupid, precious, stance

I’m sure they will sell out the tickets anyway, so filming it only adds to the pension fund down the line.

really?

Speaking to the UK music magazine Melody Maker at the beginning of January 1985, Geldof revealed his enthusiasm for George's idea, saying, "If George is organising it, you can tell him he can call me at any time, and I'll do it. It's a logical progression from the record, but the point is you don't just talk about it, you go ahead and do it!"[18]

It was clear from the interview that Geldof had already had the idea to hold a dual venue concert and how the concerts should be structured:

The show should be as big as is humanly possible. There's no point [in] just 5,000 fans turning up at Wembley; we need to have Wembley linked with Madison Square Gardens, and the whole show to be televised worldwide. It would be great for Duran to play three or four numbers at Wembley and then flick to Madison Square, where Springsteen would be playing. While he's on, the Wembley stage could be made ready for the next British act like the Thompsons or whoever. In that way, lots of acts could be featured, and the television rights, tickets, and so on could raise a phenomenal amount of money. It's not an impossible idea, and certainly one worth exploiting.[18]

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1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Given the whole point of the event was to raise money for the starving, what a stupid, precious, stance.

Did you do more than Bob to help the starving in Africa?

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16 hours ago, Turkish said:

Wonder what sort of music he’s into. Frankie goes to Hollywood, right said Fred, ABBA and Boy George I’d imagine 

There is a boring answer to this. He's a massive fan of Manic Street Preachers, wrote their official biography and works with them on various things. I think he is from near where they are from in South Wales.

(Of course, Manics supported Oasis at Knebworth some will remember. The Manics do not hate Oasis).

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18 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Managed to get 4 tickets for Saturday at Wembley in the pre-sale tonight. Quite astonishingly, Ticketmaster worked seamlessly. 

Same here! And I did it on my phone whilst on holiday in Italy!

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