badgerx16 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 4 minutes ago, BotleySaint said: That's the game done then. Two 1-0 defeats doesn't sound as bad as it could be? Considering both could easily have been 3-0 I suppose there is a positive side to things. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Do Saints have an attacking coach? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Things we learned today... - we STILL need an actual goal scoring centre forward - KWP would be mad to stay - we need KWP to stay - AA only flourishes when he has space - AA isn't going to get the space he needs to flourish this season - Fernandes looks promising - With 30 minutes to go, Russ would rather preserve a draw than go for the win. At home. To Nottingham Forest. - Big Les needs to start instead of Smallbone - McCarthy isn't actually a bad goalkeeper when he's doing normal goalkeeper type stuff 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobsmith Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Entirely on Russell Martin. Set us up like we were playing Manchester City away, and only makes changes when we're behind. Clueless 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Just now, badgerx16 said: Considering both could easily have been 3-0 I suppose there is a positive side to things. Still six points lost wether we lost 1-0 or 3-0 but is see your point on confidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) The issue is we've changed formation to try to counteract the fact we can't defend for toffee. It now means we can't attack for toffee. Edited August 24 by Farmer Saint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) Welcome to the Promised Land of the Premier League. It is an exercise in futility for clubs of our size and means. Edited August 24 by adrian lord 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Goal should have been ruled out. Joke. But another game where we don't look like scoring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Just now, obelisk said: Do Saints have an attacking coach? Would be a waste of money when we don’t have any attacking players or tactics. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Got what we deserved. Nothing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Wow, just felt like there were a lot of goals out there for us. Forest looked weak defensively, I can't believe we didn't score 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Where's the goals and points going to come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 minute ago, obelisk said: Do Saints have an attacking coach? Yes, but he has a blown gasket and 2 flat tyres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Edozie is so wasteful. I appreciate his defensive work, but his final ball is shocking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Good run back from Edozie. Although he has got the ball into the box a couple of times, nothing really aimed at picking anyone out. And as I type one goes well past everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Just now, Bobsmith said: Entirely on Russell Martin. Set us up like we were playing Manchester City away, and only makes changes when we're behind. Clueless Not to mention his changes were poor too. The love in with Stephens is stupid, taking off Sugawara and playing him LB makes zero sense. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 16th after 2 games - I'll take that 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 2 minutes ago, northam soul said: I have believed for ages tha Smallbone and Aribo in midfield in this league and we are doomed. They are not mobile enough and don’t offer enough quality in an attacking sense. We look toothless up top with Diaz and Armstrong so not sure how we change this going forward. I appreciate the idea of sticking by the players who got you promoted but we were hardly pulling up trees last year - we largely scraped through to promotion. Thankfully with Ugochukwu and Fernandes fully integrated, we won't have to rely on the others that much. Still work to do in the transfer window and... Russ - please don't play 3 CBs at home against the likes of Forest. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 2 minutes ago, northam soul said: I have believed for ages tha Smallbone and Aribo in midfield in this league and we are doomed. I think we could get away with one as an occasional sub but both on for the majority of the game isn't going to work at this level. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 2 minutes ago, trousers said: Things we learned today... - we STILL need an actual goal scoring centre forward - KWP would be mad to stay - we need KWP to stay - AA only flourishes when he has space - AA isn't going to get the space he needs to flourish this season - Fernandes looks promising - With 30 minutes to go, Russ would rather preserve a draw than go for the win. At home. To Nottingham Forest. - Big Les needs to start instead of Smallbone - McCarthy isn't actually a bad goalkeeper when he's doing normal goalkeeper type stuff True, if Bazunu, I think we lost at least 0-3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) So annoying. I don't think anyone can say we should have won, but we also shouldn't have lost. Aribo just needs to kick it FFS. That said, did look like he was fouled. If we're going to play the two "strikers" we need to get them closer together. We're not good enough to have no proper focal point up there. P.s. Dibbling looked excellent. Edited August 24 by benjii 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 If Lego-Head persists with this set up, we will comfortably relegated around xmas (or as good as) Horrible set up, horrible tempo, horrible all round 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Why play five at the back at home? We have to act like we belong in this league rather than trying not to lose. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 It's great to be back in the Premier league, eh? Big changes needed, either personnel or formation but if we play the whole season like that, we're going to set a few records... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Ralph Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Too reluctant to take risks - same problem as last year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Ok so we found out earlier this week that it would be unlikely we would be signing both Bijlow and Ramsdale. I’m gonna add another pearl of wisdom to that and state I think it’s unlikely we ain’t gonna struggle this season. Absolutely hopeless in attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 minute ago, Saint Scott said: Not to mention his changes were poor too. The love in with Stephens is stupid, taking off Sugawara and playing him LB makes zero sense. Again it seems crazy to take off Sugawara, who actually does carry an attacking threat, and then play Stephens out of position. Stephens is probably our 5th(?) best left back but is constantly moved there for some reason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 2 minutes ago, Bobsmith said: Entirely on Russell Martin. Set us up like we were playing Manchester City away, and only makes changes when we're behind. Clueless Yep. Last week was on him too, despite the AM error. Subs were too late. The only comfort I'll take is that we're not getting smashed. Yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Bijlow Sugawara - THB - Jan - KWP Downes - Lesley - Fernandes AA - Archer - BBD Already that looks better on paper than what we started with today. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsBarry74 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 16 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Well this is incredibly damning. YET another terrible display at home to Forest. 62% possession and fuck all to show for it. Peak Martin ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Bloody Premier League, can’t live with it, can’t live without it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Tactics in the first half nothing short of embarrassing. Smallbone and Aribo pointless footballers with no creativity/urgency. One of them or neither, never both. Ridiculous. Dibling our only footballer capable of turning and driving with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Awful all over the pitch. Except dibling who should be starting. Fan zone is good though isn't it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) 65% possession and around twice as many completed passes, yet we had approximately zero threat. Edited August 24 by Saint NL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 5 minutes ago, trousers said: Things we learned today... - we STILL need an actual goal scoring centre forward - KWP would be mad to stay - we need KWP to stay - AA only flourishes when he has space - AA isn't going to get the space he needs to flourish this season - Fernandes looks promising - With 30 minutes to go, Russ would rather preserve a draw than go for the win. At home. To Nottingham Forest. - Big Les needs to start instead of Smallbone - McCarthy isn't actually a bad goalkeeper when he's doing normal goalkeeper type stuff You missed out that we're crap - although to be fair we already knew that so as you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 minute ago, SNSUN said: Bijlow Sugawara - THB - Jan - KWP Downes - Lesley - Fernandes AA - Archer - BBD Already that looks better on paper than what we started with today. Even that is pretty toothless and lacking of pace/power up top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 What’s the point ? Offered fuck all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 The second game where we have gifted them their goal. There are times to run or pass it out and other to hoof it up field or out while the defence resets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 We are SO easy for other premier league teams to play against. Will the Forest defence get an easier day of work than this? Tappy, tappy, slowly-keepball. Do fuck all to hurt teams. Russ needs to have a serious rethink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Dibling looked great. I'd play him from the start to be honest. Smallbone can fuck off to the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 2 minutes ago, benjii said: If we're going to play the two "strikers" we need to get them closer together. We're not good enough to have no proper focal point up there. At times they were both hugging their respective touchlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 4 minutes ago, saintant said: 16th after 2 games - I'll take that 🙂 In all seriousness at least our goal difference is OK (basically the best it can possibly be on two defeats). We have yet to be annihilated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 minute ago, SNSUN said: Bijlow Sugawara - THB - Jan - KWP Downes - Lesley - Fernandes AA - Archer - BBD Already that looks better on paper than what we started with today. Looks like it would do well in the Championship 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Please, for the love of god, stop this 3 at the back....just stop it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 5 minutes ago, Mr X said: Where's the goals and points going to come from? Mainly whoever we play. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 So clear for 5/10 minutes before their goal that the game was there and we needed to make a change. Doesn’t react until they score. Happened plenty last year too. Too scared to attack Forest at home, what hope do we have outside of that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Well the second half was much better, but there's still a glaring lack of quality in MF and attack. I thought Dibling looked excellent when he came on. His driving runs will cause all sorts of problems for opposition defenders. I like Smallbone, but he was way out of his depth today. Fernandes looked decent enough. Edozie really needs to work on his final ball. Such a frustrating player. A shit goal to concede, having actually defended OK until that point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Why play five at the back at home? We have to act like we belong in this league rather than trying not to lose. Absolutely. 4 at the back. 3 in the middle. 3 up top. Play on the front foot, stretching teams, and creating genuine chances. We should be getting something at home to forest, and it's hard to see where our first result will come from playing this way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 If Martin knows his style will produce more losses than wins at a higher level why does he persevere with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 60% possession but only one shot on goal.... Forest managed 5 on target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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