Saint_clark Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 I do like the look of this guy. Guessing we don't have an option to buy included if he's highly thought of at Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 2 hours ago, Saint_clark said: I do like the look of this guy. Guessing we don't have an option to buy included if he's highly thought of at Chelsea. The reports are that there is no option to buy. Seems less able to play on the turn than Lavia; so presumably that will still be Flynn's job. But he does seem to have the destroyer element to his game like big Vic had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 15 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said: The reports are that there is no option to buy. Seems less able to play on the turn than Lavia; so presumably that will still be Flynn's job. But he does seem to have the destroyer element to his game like big Vic had. We've really been missing a tall, strong, athletic CM player for some time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 8 hours ago, CSA96 said: So meeting Russ and Lucy would've been Lesley's first introduction to the club... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 12 hours ago, CSA96 said: “His driver”? Why am I reminded of this? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 All I can think of is the opening lines of Hooked on a Feeling…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) Our new number 26 Edited August 22 by goodymatt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23rdSaint Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 I would assume that all but rules out Fraser coming back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 minute ago, 23rdSaint said: I would assume that all but rules out Fraser coming back... He may not come back but he doesn't play in the same position as Fraser so I don't see how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23rdSaint Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Just now, hypochondriac said: He may not come back but he doesn't play in the same position as Fraser so I don't see how. I should clarify, I was referring to the squad number. Not that squad numbers hold *that* much importance. But if there was a chance he was returning, we'd have surely given Ugochukwu another shirt... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Cant see Fraser coming back. We have a bloated squad already and although the Wee Man did well for is in the Championship he is not Prem standard unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Russell Martin on Lesley Ugochukwu: "It is the number six position mostly where he will compete with Flynn Downes or play alongside him, but it's a big position with lots going through it so it takes a bit to learn." "They [new signings] have only had a couple of training sessions but we are delighted they're here. This is their opportunity to be here with us in the Premier League, I have been impressed with them. The challenge is to force their way into the team." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 38 minutes ago, 23rdSaint said: I should clarify, I was referring to the squad number. Not that squad numbers hold *that* much importance. But if there was a chance he was returning, we'd have surely given Ugochukwu another shirt... Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 All his touches tonight against Cardiff. Big Les bossing it. Lavia crossed with Wanyama - you love to see it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Good player. A type of body we've missed and it'll be really important in certain games to set-up with both him and Downes in midfield. Feel like they could compliment each other really well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 He could be the big midfield unit we've been missing for so long. Covers the ground rapidly with his long stride so can snuff out danger. He's a tidy passer and is capable of breaking forward and carrying the ball. Just what we need and I feel he should start on Saturday alongside Downes and Fernandes. However, I doubt RM will be so keen to change two in midfield so we may only see Fernandez which would be a pity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 9 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said: All his touches tonight against Cardiff. Big Les bossing it. Lavia crossed with Wanyama - you love to see it Some silky play there laced with power - the guy is a tank and will be better than Wanyama was for us. Like Fernandez he spots a pass quickly and plays it. With these two our midfield will have a bit about it and move the ball much quicker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 The good thing about having another defensive midfielder on board is that Smallbone can operate further forwards, which is more his thing. But with Fernandes and Les on board, with Dibling pushing hard too and Lallana looking like he has something to offer, Will and Joe have their places in jeopardy right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Now having a sulk and wants out in January according to reports. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-lesley-ugochukwu-southampton-loan-34221017.amp Shame as thought he might offer something in joining. Left wondering if he’s crap or under-utilised and just pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 He's looked crap every time I've watched him - get rid (and Cornet). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugenhagen Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Hope we can get rid of both, and utilise the two loan slots. Tempting to bring Charles back, but probably better for him to stay at Weds. Would like a new central defender and goal scoring striker, but we will probably end up with another left sided defender we won’t use, and an injury prone striker 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said: He's looked crap every time I've watched him - get rid (and Cornet). He probably isn’t crap, I just don’t think we need another uppity player in our position. Cornet, he is a proven player, is he fit, is he confident? I wouldn’t judge him on the Stoke performance. Apart from a few shoe-ins, the others just don’t get a run. It must be extremely difficult making the odd cameo and feeling you have to set the world alight to get another go, that is extreme pressure. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 Would have liked to see him in a double pivot with Downes as I think we'd have seen the best of him. Unfortunately RM is not one to try different formations and I don't think he's ever experimented with 4-2-3-1 which the vast majority of the best teams play. Russell knows better I guess. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 10 minutes ago, saintant said: Would have liked to see him in a double pivot with Downes as I think we'd have seen the best of him. Unfortunately RM is not one to try different formations and I don't think he's ever experimented with 4-2-3-1 which the vast majority of the best teams play. Russell knows better I guess. Apart from all the different formations he's tried. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 3 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Apart from all the different formations he's tried. The ‘U’ shaped one with our strikers stood next to the linesmen was my personal favourite 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 Real shame Big Les couldn’t fill the void we’ve got in defensive midfield but he looks shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 3 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Apart from all the different formations he's tried. Maybe time to try the one that most successful teams use then - or is that too obvious or not left field enough for clever Russell who is determined to prove he can reinvent football for clubs outside the top ten - not working is it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 He’s no Will Smallbone that’s for sure. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 He's proper shit......couldn't trap a bag of cement and has ideas way above his station (at least currently). Laughable how everything is Martin's fault accordin tgo many on here. Blame Martin for the many issues we have but I'm surprised the haters on here are not blaming him for the trerrible budget, war in the Middle East, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 16 hours ago, washsaint said: He's proper shit......couldn't trap a bag of cement and has ideas way above his station (at least currently). Laughable how everything is Martin's fault accordin tgo many on here. Blame Martin for the many issues we have but I'm surprised the haters on here are not blaming him for the trerrible budget, war in the Middle East, etc. You do realise Martin approved this signing right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 Cornet and this lad, further evidence that recruiting with SR is fucking appalling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 49 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Cornet and this lad, further evidence that recruiting with SR is fucking appalling Agreed on those. But I find Fernandes has been a superb bit of business, Harwood-Bellis has great potential for a young CB and Ramsdale was a proper signing, Downes as well. Some awful business but a few that deserve some credit as well. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 (edited) He makes Carlton Palmer look accomplished - that’s how rough his touch and close control is. At least Carlton had a decent motor on him (cue Vauxhall jokes) as did Victor (Vauxhall again..) Wanyama later on. Lesley by contrast runs in treacle. The sporting director who mugged Chelsea off for £22m for a bog standard League 2 big lump CM needs watching to replace Rasmus though. Very shrewd selling. Edited December 2 by Gloucester Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 Another masterstroke from our recruitment team. He makes Geoff Thomas look like Ruud Gullit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 Paul Wotton > Lesley Ugochukwu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 18 hours ago, Football Special said: Agreed on those. But I find Fernandes has been a superb bit of business, Harwood-Bellis has great potential for a young CB and Ramsdale was a proper signing, Downes as well. Some awful business but a few that deserve some credit as well. Cornet was quality at Burnley. Not sure what happened with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 42 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Cornet was quality at Burnley. Not sure what happened with him? Not sure if he had injuries but certainly lost his way at West Ham and didn't make an impact, he might be better off in championship or foreign league like Belgium where he'd get more space 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 16 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: Lesley by contrast runs in treacle. The sporting director who mugged Chelsea off for £22m for a bog standard League 2 big lump CM needs watching to replace Rasmus though. Very shrewd selling. And Chelsea signed him up for SEVEN years ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 20 hours ago, Football Special said: Agreed on those. But I find Fernandes has been a superb bit of business, Harwood-Bellis has great potential for a young CB and Ramsdale was a proper signing, Downes as well. Some awful business but a few that deserve some credit as well. Downes is miles off it in this league unfortunately. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 Big Les has been a huge disappointment - no formation in the world will make up for such a lack of physical presence for a big lad, or playing the game at a pace about three times slower than everybody else. Was really hoping we’d found a great partner/cover for Downes, but the search goes on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 1 hour ago, saintwbu said: Big Les has been a huge disappointment - no formation in the world will make up for such a lack of physical presence for a big lad, or playing the game at a pace about three times slower than everybody else. Was really hoping we’d found a great partner/cover for Downes, but the search goes on. Not a popular view on here I know, but I still think Shea Charles is the long term answer as partner/ cover. I certainly don't think Les is any better than him and I wonder how their wages compare, with a loan fee etc as well? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 6 hours ago, RedArmy said: Downes is miles off it in this league unfortunately. I think he's been stretched and asked to cover too much at times especially when the likes of Lallana offer little in tacking but certainly wouldn't say he's miles off it, he's a good player in my opinion who would benefit from more energy around him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 Big disappointment as he seemed a decent addition to the squad. Did Chelsea pay a big fee to sign him from Rennes(?) If so, just as well as our talent spotters didnt recommend shelling out a tidy sum to sign him up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 4 hours ago, Football Special said: I think he's been stretched and asked to cover too much at times especially when the likes of Lallana offer little in tacking but certainly wouldn't say he's miles off it, he's a good player in my opinion who would benefit from more energy around him. Agree with this. Manager is letting Downes down. He needs help but we have a fucking imbecile in charge who can’t set up a midfield. As for Lesley… absolutely horrendous. I know he was rated at Chelsea so I’m not sure what’s going on…Is Martin playing him out of position, or is he just worse than anyone thought? He really has been abysmal so far. Can’t decide if him or BBD is our worst signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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