Cameron Archer

[LuckyNumber7]

8 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

What a wanker. 
 

Anybody who thinks he did his best yesterday is deluded. Minced about like he didn’t want to be here, fucking massive pony merchant. To think Lego was raving about him. One of the senior pros needs to spark him out, complete and utter waste of a shirt….Disgrace…

Been like that most of the season. He's worse than Adam Armstrong. No movement, weak and lazy as fuck. I was underwhelmed when he signed but he's been far worse than I imagined. Can't wait to see the back of him.

[benali-shorts]

There was one moment when KWP was dispossessed in their half and Archer initially raced back to cover (aka doing his job). He got 20 yards and just gave up, leaving them 2 on 1 vs TH-B. He then jogged back to the edge of our box when the ball was safely on the other side of the pitch, before aimlessly jogging away again. He can't help being a bit shit, but he can help being lazy. Also was feebly shrugged off the ball by that man monster Maatsen so clearly doesn't bother working hard in the gym either. 

[Matthew Le God]

He has been very ineffective and out of his depth this season, but in the league, we are about to go into, he is useful. 18 goals in 40 Championship games is a decent strike rate.

[Lord Duckhunter]

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Is 18 goals in 40 Championship games not a decent strike rate? He has been shit this season, but let's judge him on how he has been in the league we will be in next season.

[Wade Garrett]

He looks a bit podgy to me.

[Badger]

14 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Is 18 goals in 40 Championship games not a decent strike rate? He has been shit this season, but let's judge him on how he has been in the league we will be in next season.

Irrespective of how he may perform next season in the Championship, it probably wasn’t what we were looking for when we shelled out £15-18m (depending on reports) in the summer.

Bearing in mind we bought him for this season, he’s been a failure. Let’s judge him on the job we bought him for rather than where we are next season and his efforts have contributed to. 

Edited Sunday at 12:46 by Badger

[Badger]

8 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

He looks a bit podgy to me.

Looks a bit shit to me. 

[Fabrice29]

Think strikers generally look lazy when asked to defend in a low block. If your whole defensive plan is to compress space then having strikers who chase stuff down for the purpose of looking like they give a shit is counter productive. Even more so when they probably aren't physically capable of doing it. Be positionally disciplined and make runs from deep when the CB's have the ball and chuck it over the top. Low risk, low reward football and when it doesn't work out it will naturally attract criticism, especially individually.

[Matthew Le God]

4 minutes ago, Badger said:

Irrespective of how he may perform next season in the Championship, it probably wasn’t what we were looking for when we shelled out £15-18m (depending on reports) in the summer.

Bearing in mind we bought him for this season, he’s been a failure. Let’s judge him on the job we bought him for rather than where we are next season and his efforts have contributed to. 

I don't disagree it was a poor signing. I've not said otherwise. But it is a positive he is useful that he has a good record at the level we will find ourselves in next season.

[Lighthouse]

We should get 60 goals out of Archer, BBD and Armstrong next season IF they all want to stay and play for us. None of them are getting a better offer so it’ll all come down to personal circumstances. Seems like a no-brainier to keep all three if we can, then focus our budget on midfield creativity and a couple of decent fullbacks.

[Badger]

9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

I don't disagree it was a poor signing. I've not said otherwise. But it is a positive he is useful that he has a good record at the level we will find ourselves in next season.

Fair point if we’re looking for silver linings in a pretty poor cloud.
 

Should be remembered it was a couple of years ago when he played and Preston and Middlesbrough though. I recall someone telling how Holgate had a good game for WBA once upon a time (a few years before joining us) and that particular ‘peak’ wasn’t reached again. 

[East Kent Saint]

It is more a symptom of the team set up with a weak outnumbered midfield . He is obviously not sure of where or what he is expected to do rather than being a poor player.

[Badger]

Just now, East Kent Saint said:

It is more a symptom of the team set up with a weak outnumbered midfield . He is obviously not sure of where or what he is expected to do rather than being a poor player.

What excuse was trotted out at Sheffield Utd last season ? 

[obelisk]

He suffers somewhat from Saints defence and midfield preference for sideways/backwards safe passes rather than looking up to find a forward running in behind the opposition defence. Even so he has been a disappointment this season with just a few highlights that I can remember.

[pimpin4rizeal]

Think he probably needs to play in a  2 to be max effective  . We haven’t really played to his strengths at all  .he’s got pace and is a decent finisher but needs the ball played in behind .. 

[CSA96]

He's got a good record at Championship level (in what you'd expect to be lesser teams...) and he was a couple of years younger when he was last playing at that level, so I still hold out a fair amount of hope of him coming good for us next season, if he wants to stay. I can't see that he's going to have options to go on to something bigger and better than Saints tbh and we'll need a couple of proven scorers at the level. But a Premier League striker, he is most certainly not

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

We haven’t really played to his strengths at all  .he’s got pace and is a decent finisher but needs the ball played in behind .. 

His movement is nonexistent, and he doesn’t put it all in every game. We don’t play to Tall Paul’s strengths, yet he gives his all. This chump is stealing a living. 

[Wade Garrett]

On 13/04/2025 at 13:58, Lighthouse said:

We should get 60 goals out of Archer, BBD and Armstrong next season IF they all want to stay and play for us. None of them are getting a better offer so it’ll all come down to personal circumstances. Seems like a no-brainier to keep all three if we can, then focus our budget on midfield creativity and a couple of decent fullbacks.

Please tell me you’re not Spors.

[Wade Garrett]

10 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

His movement is nonexistent, and he doesn’t put it all in every game. We don’t play to Tall Paul’s strengths, yet he gives his all. This chump is stealing a living. 

Tall Paul is blowing out of his arse if he sprints 10 yards.  He also has no ability and is weak as piss for a giant.

 

[Lord Duckhunter]

13 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Tall Paul is blowing out of his arse if he sprints 10 yards.  He also has no ability and is weak as piss for a giant.

 

At least he tries, Archer can’t even do that….

[Midfield_General]

On 13/04/2025 at 13:58, Lighthouse said:

We should get 60 goals out of Archer, BBD and Armstrong next season IF they all want to stay and play for us. 

For clarity, I'm guessing you mean that if those three are our main strikers next season then the entire team, including them, should be OK to score 60 goals?

Not that they are going to score 60 between just the three of them i.e. an average of 20 each...

[Lighthouse]

38 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Please tell me you’re not Spors.

BBD and Archer are more than capable of replicating the 16 goals Che Adams scored two years ago, when by all accounts our problem was keeping goals out, not putting them in. Looking at the players we’re most likely to left with come summer, my first priorities would be upgrading on Bree and Manning as first choice FBs. Then I’d like better creative players than Fraser and Edozie. I’d much rather spend more on four quality player in those positions than the scatter gun, safety in numbers, approach of last summer.

[Lighthouse]

3 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

For clarity, I'm guessing you mean that if those three are our main strikers next season then the entire team, including them, should be OK to score 60 goals?

Not that they are going to score 60 between just the three of them i.e. an average of 20 each...

No, I think those three players alone could score 60 goals combined, if we play to their strengths and they stay fit.

[Turkish]

On 13/04/2025 at 13:58, Lighthouse said:

We should get 60 goals out of Archer, BBD and Armstrong next season IF they all want to stay and play for us. None of them are getting a better offer so it’ll all come down to personal circumstances. Seems like a no-brainier to keep all three if we can, then focus our budget on midfield creativity and a couple of decent fullbacks.

What about Ross Stewart? He’s back in two weeks, fancy him to get 15 at least

[Doctoroncall]

Just now, Turkish said:

What about Ross Stewart? He’s back in two weeks, fancy him to get 15 at least

15 minutes?

[Midfield_General]

1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

No, I think those three players alone could score 60 goals combined, if we play to their strengths and they stay fit.

Blimey. 

Just as context, with four games to go, the current top goalscorers at each of the top 4 sides in the Championship are: 

• Leeds: Piroe (15), James (12), Aaronson (9)
• Burnley: Brownhill (13), Flemming (9), Anthony (7)
• Sheffield Utd: Campbell (10), Hamer (8), Rak-Sakyi (7)
• Sunderland: Isidor (12), Mayender (7), Mundle (5)

So to suggest our numbers would be in the region of Armstrong (20), Archer (20), Diaz (20) seems... a touch optimistic? 

 

[Lighthouse]

17 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Blimey. 

Just as context, with four games to go, the current top goalscorers at each of the top 4 sides in the Championship are: 

• Leeds: Piroe (15), James (12), Aaronson (9)
• Burnley: Brownhill (13), Flemming (9), Anthony (7)
• Sheffield Utd: Campbell (10), Hamer (8), Rak-Sakyi (7)
• Sunderland: Isidor (12), Mayender (7), Mundle (5)

So to suggest our numbers would be in the region of Armstrong (20), Archer (20), Diaz (20) seems... a touch optimistic? 

 

Maybe but then Lambert, Sharp, Guly and Connolly can’t have been much shy of that under Adkins. Had Sharp been here the full season, he and Lambert could have netted about 45 between the pair of them.

[hypochondriac]

27 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Maybe but then Lambert, Sharp, Guly and Connolly can’t have been much shy of that under Adkins. Had Sharp been here the full season, he and Lambert could have netted about 45 between the pair of them.

True but I wouldn't compare any of those strikers to Lambert. 

[Wade Garrett]

2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

At least he tries, Archer can’t even do that….

I think he’s George Weah’s second cousin.

[bugenhagen]

2 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

BBD and Archer are more than capable of replicating the 16 goals Che Adams scored two years ago, when by all accounts our problem was keeping goals out, not putting them in. Looking at the players we’re most likely to left with come summer, my first priorities would be upgrading on Bree and Manning as first choice FBs. Then I’d like better creative players than Fraser and Edozie. I’d much rather spend more on four quality player in those positions than the scatter gun, safety in numbers, approach of last summer.

The one thing neither of them replicate is Che's hold-up play. That is a bigger problem than replicating the 16 goals he scored.

I just can't understand the faith that BBD, Arma and Archer are going to replicate the goals they have scored in a season before. It just doesn't work like that. Look at Arma at WBA now, why is he not scoring? BBD scored in the prem for Sheff U, why did he not replicate that with us? Relying on them three will backfire so bad... is my opinion.