Non-Saints Games - 24/25

[Colinjb]

Too early to chant, 'We want 9?'

[Sunglasses Ron]

8 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

Too early to chant, 'We want 9?'

They’re bad, but they’re not us bad.

[Saint NL]

Van Nistelrooy can't survive this, surely

[Gloucester Saint]

Clubs in identikit Barr stadiums 0 Brentford 8 so far this season.

[Harry_SFC]

Brentford are such a watchable side. Decent keeper, solid centre backs and quick, technical players in midfield/up top.

[Turkish]

Bet Leicester fans wish they’d stick with Cooper

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

Bet Leicester fans wish they’d stick with Cooper

Forest rivalry though. 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Brentford are such a watchable side. Decent keeper, solid centre backs and quick, technical players in midfield/up top.

That’s the formula you need as mid-sized or smaller PL outfit. Trick is not to get clever bollocks and dip too far below the market value for purchases in key positions and/or players without the athletic attributes in your spine.

[Colinjb]

20 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

They’re bad, but they’re not us bad.

Watching this, comparing it to the Bournemouth game. Not so sure about that.

[Lighthouse]

Ahhhh, they're bringing Vestergaard on, no way they lose 9-0 at home on a Friday night with him on the pitch.

[FarehamSaintJames]

Oh how Leicester fans were desperate to be rid of Steve Cooper.

Ruud awakening.

[Pamplemousse]

I suspect Leicester might be where we get that third win of the season...

[Pamplemousse]

The one thing which is really noticable is just how much Brentford run, and how fast they are, both on and off the ball.

Compare that to our slow, ponderous style under Martin. How did he ever think that would be successful in the Prem??

[Harry_SFC]

5 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

The one thing which is really noticable is just how much Brentford run, and how fast they are, both on and off the ball.

Compare that to our slow, ponderous style under Martin. How did he ever think that would be successful in the Prem??

Yep, they look to get the ball out wide to their best players as quickly as possible. No weird tactics or philosophies anywhere to be seen. 

[Gloucester Saint]

19 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Ahhhh, they're bringing Vestergaard on, no way they lose 9-0 at home on a Friday night with him on the pitch.

Can’t believe he’s still stealing a PL living nearly seven years after being a Les Sanatogen Special. 

[StrangelyBrown]

Leicester really are utter dogshit. They've actually got a few decent players and yet look worse than us which is some achievement.

[Lighthouse]

Burnley have made it all the way through January and February without conceding a league goal. Not let one in since Christmas in fact.

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Saint NL said:

Van Nistelrooy can't survive this, surely

 

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Bet Leicester fans wish they’d stick with Cooper

Leicester should go for Lego. Experienced Championship manager with a promotion under his belt.

What could go wrong ? 

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Pamplemousse said:

I suspect Leicester might be where we get that third win of the season...

Both likely to be confirmed as relegated by then. 

[Dr Who?]

The bottom 3 are all pretty crap. I do expect Wolves to pick up, and they did look like they were going to a while back. But still think the 3 promoted will be the 3 to go back down. I do expect this trend to stop next season though. 

[Football Special]

20 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said:

Leicester really are utter dogshit. They've actually got a few decent players and yet look worse than us which is some achievement.

Leicester fans feeling it more than us now I think, we're long gone,  resigned to our fate, Leicester on the other hand  knew a win tonight would lift them out of the bottom 3 and yet they never even got close to Brentford 

[CB Fry]

23 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said:

Leicester really are utter dogshit. They've actually got a few decent players and yet look worse than us which is some achievement.

They've set the kind of Premier League record that you'd think we'd have.

Six home games in a row lost without scoring. 

[Badger]

2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

They've set the kind of Premier League record that you'd think we'd have.

Six home games in a row lost without scoring. 

Fuck it, that’s another one to aim for. How many home games have we got left ? 

[suewhistle]

17 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

They've set the kind of Premier League record that you'd think we'd have.

Six home games in a row lost without scoring. 

Yeah, but they haven't conceded as many, I don't think. We've still got that record.

I've just seen the goal clips and some very empty stands..

[Winnersaint]

2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

That’s the formula you need as mid-sized or smaller PL outfit. Trick is not to get clever bollocks and dip too far below the market value for purchases in key positions and/or players without the athletic attributes in your spine.

 

2 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

The one thing which is really noticable is just how much Brentford run, and how fast they are, both on and off the ball.

Compare that to our slow, ponderous style under Martin. How did he ever think that would be successful in the Prem??

Yes but at some stage they’ll be degraded just as we were and back in the Championship. Same with Bompey, Brighton, Fulham etc. it’s not our time atm.

[Dark Munster]

3 hours ago, StrangelyBrown said:

Leicester really are utter dogshit. They've actually got a few decent players and yet look worse than us which is some achievement.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/live/c1kmkjgpzr1t

Their fans are letting the board know what they think of them in no uncertain terms.

Why couldn't we do the same, especially toward Ankersen?

[woodsaint1]

3 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Burnley have made it all the way through January and February without conceding a league goal. Not let one in since Christmas in fact.

Hope they go up as its a miserable place to go/team to play under Parker. They'll be back in the EFL by the 26/27 season

[woodsaint1]

3 hours ago, Dr Who? said:

The bottom 3 are all pretty crap. I do expect Wolves to pick up, and they did look like they were going to a while back. But still think the 3 promoted will be the 3 to go back down. I do expect this trend to stop next season though. 

Why? Leeds, Sheff Utd and Burnley who are the three best sides in the Championship are nowhere near equipped to deal with the PL and I dont think any big spending by either side (unlikely as it is anyways) is going to change that. Championship sides are largely reliant on an established PL team having a desperate season - like us in 22/23

[woodsaint1]

Wednesday heading for that mid-table finish as expected, yet some of our fans will still be demanding Rohl as manager. As I said before, if he didnt have any prior link to us, I dont think we'd be paying any attention to him

[Doctoroncall]

8 hours ago, suewhistle said:

Yeah, but they haven't conceded as many, I don't think. We've still got that record.

I've just seen the goal clips and some very empty stands..

They were leaving after the third goal went in

[Doctoroncall]

5 hours ago, woodsaint1 said:

Wednesday heading for that mid-table finish as expected, yet some of our fans will still be demanding Rohl as manager. As I said before, if he didnt have any prior link to us, I dont think we'd be paying any attention to him

Probably, but also the fact he’s getting the most out of his squad if Charles is the best player. 

[Gloucester Saint]

8 hours ago, Winnersaint said:

 

Yes but at some stage they’ll be degraded just as we were and back in the Championship. Same with Bompey, Brighton, Fulham etc. it’s not our time atm.

Palace have managed it though, you just can’t afford to have a lazy window or two and be proactive/ruthless if a manager isn’t cutting it eg De Boer. Look at how long we limped on with Pellegrino beyond November, Nathan Jones and Martin when it obviously wasn’t working whatsoever. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

7 hours ago, woodsaint1 said:

Wednesday heading for that mid-table finish as expected, yet some of our fans will still be demanding Rohl as manager. As I said before, if he didnt have any prior link to us, I dont think we'd be paying any attention to him

Like a lot of their player recruitment, SR do the same for managers. Get up and coming ones or ones with a point to prove, presumably thinking they will have to pay less, and reap the rewards. Except Jones, Selles, Martin and now Juric have been among the PL's least successful managers. Rohl may be great. But it's also just a repeat of the others, and none of them have worked for us.

It's not even as though they share a common set of values. SR are happy to lurch from one to the other. Why not lurch towards a manager with some actual success and proven ability for a change?

 

Edited yesterday at 08:45 by Holmes_and_Watson
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[gio1saints]

33 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Like a lot of their player recruitment, SR do the same for managers. Get up and coming ones or ones with a point to prove, presumably thinking they will have to pay less, and reap the rewards. Except Jones, Selles, Martin and now Juric have been among the PL's least successful managers. Rohl may be great. But it's also just a repeat of the others, and one of them have worked for us.

It's not even as though they share a common set of values. SR are happy to lurch from one to the other. Why not lurch towards a manager with some actual success and proven ability for a change?

I share your sentiment but to be fair to SR I’m not certain managing saints as we get relegated was all that appealing a prospect to ANY proven success and proven ability Manager.

Those criteria ( proven success proven ability ) have an implicit upward career trajectory to them - which getting relegated in first season and the lottery of the championship in year two rather pisses on. 
 

I think it’s pretty clear neither Potter or Moyes wanted anything to do with us and taking an “interesting” championship manager- especially is problematic given our recent experiences. Fans might rightly say “ have we not learned our lessons “ if Danny Rohl  were poached for example. Allegri and unemployed high end managers like that are simply not going to touch us. 
 

Recruiting Ivan - a baggage free foreign coach with a sellable to the fans CV seemed the easiest solution for SR - with as much chance as success as the more contentious recruitments they could have tried. Whether he is preferred for next season despite his Board support remains to be seen. I sense his honeymoon is over and some players are getting very busy with their agents…as is our don’t fancy it injury list lengthening ….lets not be surprised if our starting team next season has 7,8 or 9 new faces including the manager! 
 

Edited yesterday at 08:49 by gio1saints

[macca155]

10 hours ago, CB Fry said:

They've set the kind of Premier League record that you'd think we'd have.

Six home games in a row lost without scoring. 

Hey plenty of time for us to beat that record

[Lighthouse]

11 minutes ago, macca155 said:

Hey plenty of time for us to beat that record

Actually there isn't, only seven home games left including today.

[LuckyNumber7]

10 hours ago, Dark Munster said:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/live/c1kmkjgpzr1t

Their fans are letting the board know what they think of them in no uncertain terms.

Why couldn't we do the same, especially toward Ankersen?

Except they're not. One or two very half hearted chants yesterday as referenced here, no different to us really. Apathy reigns.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn7g6z7ge11o

 

[Sarnia Cherie]

Vardy's motormouth wife accidently spilled the beans that he is undergoing a 'full body reboot' at a London clinic. If last night's performance is anything to go by he needs to ask for a refund. 

[spyinthesky]

I looked on the comments section of the Leicester Mercury match reports.

More or less the same feelings of desperation and disappointment as has been with us all for many months now, although I suspect that most of us have moved on to a feeling of inevitability.

Mind you to lose AGAIN against both Leicester & Wolves would be a real kick in the nuts

Edited 20 hours ago by spyinthesky

[Holmes_and_Watson]

25 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said:

Vardy's motormouth wife accidently spilled the beans that he is undergoing a 'full body reboot' at a London clinic. If last night's performance is anything to go by he needs to ask for a refund. 

Vardy appears for 25/26 pre season in the Championship.

... shortly before spending time in the treatment centre for rust related injuries.

[Saint NL]

Moyes has done a hell of a job at Everton

[egg]

3 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Moyes has done a hell of a job at Everton

He certainly has. Makes you wonder what he could have done for us. Hey ho. 

[AlexLaw76]

3 at the back masterclass from united 

Edited 19 hours ago by AlexLaw76

[Doctoroncall]

55 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

3 at the back masterclass from united 

And yet it’s 2-2. 

[adrian lord]

slight tug, dived. 

[Doctoroncall]

1 minute ago, adrian lord said:

slight tug, dived. 

The dive didn’t help but still enough for a penalty for me. 

[Edmonton Saint]

Didn’t even show the ref the angle of Young having his shirt tugged. Game is rigged beyond belief these days. Clear and obvious error ? Not in a thousand years 

[BARCELONASAINT]

was never enough for a penalty, absolute dive. We would have been furious if that had been given against us!

[Saint_clark]

8 minutes ago, adrian lord said:

slight tug, dived. 

That happens as you get older mate, I feel for you.

[adrian lord]

Has a ref ever had the courage of his decisions to stick with the on-field one at pitchside review? If not then there's no point in pitch side review and the VAR should impose their decision and save time. VAR is not used for what it was intended  - clear and obvious errors - but hair-splitting analysis. 

Edited 18 hours ago by adrian lord