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East Kent Saint

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  On 07/02/2025 at 08:57, tdmickey3 said:

Did you all see the elbow from the arrogant dutch top knotted wanker on Richarlson... no action whatsoever.... utter disgrace 

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He definitely stuck his elbow in an upward motion into his chin , it looked deliberate,  why VAR said it was ok .....

Badger

Badger

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  On 06/02/2025 at 19:54, Turkish said:

We signed Rideout from Bari, we also tried to get Gordon Cowans at the same time which would have been a good signing but never happened as he went back to Villa. 
 

l always thought he was a good player and underrated because at the same time we had a really good group of young players coming though, Shearer, Le Tissier, Wallace along with fans favourites like Case and Danny Wallace.

although I will never forget him missing an open goal from about a foot out then falling on his arse in a goal mouth scramble right at the end of a 2-2 draw with Everton in the 89/90 season a few months after we smashed Liverpool 4-1 at the dell and he scored a brilliant header, hit the bar form 35 yard and the post in the second half 

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I'd forgotten that bit, that was the Chris Nicholl/Tony Barton connection from their Villa days. Shame it didn't come off.

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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  On 07/02/2025 at 22:39, Jimmy_D said:

VAR isn’t even part of the discussion with that one, it’s just a straight up shocking decision.

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How is it not part of the discussion, it's literally the thing it was brought in to try and prevent. People get so caught up in hating VAR that they forget some of the absolutely batsh*t nonsense that preceeded it. 

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Jimmy_D

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  On 07/02/2025 at 22:45, Lighthouse said:

How is it not part of the discussion, it's literally the thing it was brought in to try and prevent. People get so caught up in hating VAR that they forget some of the absolutely batsh*t nonsense that preceeded it. 

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Yes, VAR would and could have corrected that decision, and don’t get me wrong, I’m all for VAR being available as a tool to use, even if its actual use has been less than ideal, but even if VAR had been available, that offside tonight isn’t a decision it should ever have been needed for. The lino is literally in the perfect position to make that call.

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Gloucester Saint

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That’s a shocker https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/czrl25k748vo

Nothing will be done though, any more than Steve Dunn against us in the quarter final in 1996 there which Fergie said ought to have stood.

It’s either pure negligence, poor eyesight or closet supporting for Utd. VAR is not the issue - our officials are and have been for 20 years. This was supposed to stop when they were allowed to go full time but it’s just getting worse.

 

Doctoroncall

Doctoroncall

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  On 08/02/2025 at 10:23, Gloucester Saint said:

That’s a shocker https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/czrl25k748vo

Nothing will be done though, any more than Steve Dunn against us in the quarter final in 1996 there which Fergie said ought to have stood.

It’s either pure negligence, poor eyesight or closet supporting for Utd. VAR is not the issue - our officials are and have been for 20 years. This was supposed to stop when they were allowed to go full time but it’s just getting worse.

 

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It would be interesting to know what a full time paid up ref got up to these days. 

Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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  On 08/02/2025 at 10:23, Gloucester Saint said:

That’s a shocker https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/czrl25k748vo

Nothing will be done though, any more than Steve Dunn against us in the quarter final in 1996 there which Fergie said ought to have stood.

It’s either pure negligence, poor eyesight or closet supporting for Utd. VAR is not the issue - our officials are and have been for 20 years. This was supposed to stop when they were allowed to go full time but it’s just getting worse.

 

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I wonder if it's just a bit of complacency from the lino. They seem so reluctant to make offside calls in the PL these days because they know VAR will confirm if a goal should stand or not, so maybe he just forgot for a moment that it wasn't there to bail him out.

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Fabrice29

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  On 08/02/2025 at 12:53, Sheaf Saint said:

I wonder if it's just a bit of complacency from the lino. They seem so reluctant to make offside calls in the PL these days because they know VAR will confirm if a goal should stand or not, so maybe he just forgot for a moment that it wasn't there to bail him out.

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:D Seen that wally from the podcast suggest this too on Twitter. There was never any occasion before VAR that linesman got things wrong and everything that now happens must be VARs fault, whether it was used or not.

Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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  On 08/02/2025 at 12:53, Sheaf Saint said:

I wonder if it's just a bit of complacency from the lino. They seem so reluctant to make offside calls in the PL these days because they know VAR will confirm if a goal should stand or not, so maybe he just forgot for a moment that it wasn't there to bail him out.

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Quite possible although it’s a staggering lack of professionalism either way. That was hardly a marginal one to the naked eye.

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Sheaf Saint

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  On 08/02/2025 at 13:29, Fabrice29 said:

:D Seen that wally from the podcast suggest this too on Twitter. There was never any occasion before VAR that linesman got things wrong and everything that now happens must be VARs fault, whether it was used or not.

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Yeah... that wasn't the point I was trying to make at all though. 

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Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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  On 08/02/2025 at 13:59, Fabrice29 said:

Yeah...it was though. 

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I know what I meant, thanks.

Of course officials made mistakes in the past before VAR existed, and I actually support the use of VAR, so I'm not "blaming" it at all. Just voicing an opinion on a possible factor that might have influenced this particular mistake.

 

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ErwinK1961

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  On 08/02/2025 at 14:07, Sheaf Saint said:

I know what I meant, thanks.

Of course officials made mistakes in the past before VAR existed, and I actually support the use of VAR, so I'm not "blaming" it at all. Just voicing an opinion on a possible factor that might have influenced this particular mistake.

 

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I thought the same.

Fabrice29

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  On 08/02/2025 at 14:07, Sheaf Saint said:

I know what I meant, thanks.

Of course officials made mistakes in the past before VAR existed, and I actually support the use of VAR, so I'm not "blaming" it at all. Just voicing an opinion on a possible factor that might have influenced this particular mistake.

 

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You meant what you said...That the lino didn't make a decision because he's used to having VAR available. Which considering that before VAR plenty of lino's also didn't make decisions like that is silly.

Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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  On 08/02/2025 at 14:12, Fabrice29 said:

You meant what you said...That the lino didn't make a decision because he's used to having VAR available. Which considering that before VAR plenty of lino's also didn't make decisions like that is silly.

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Oh fuck off you boring, argumentative little troll.

For the last time, before I put you on ignore...

Yes - officials make mistakes with or without VAR. Nobody is disputing that FFS.

Week in week out in the PL these days, I see Lino's being very hesitant to make offside calls. That is obviously influenced by the use of VAR. 

This particular mistake, given that it was a dead ball situation, is an obvious howler from the lino. So I'm merely raising the suggestion that the hesitancy to raise his flag MIGHT have been because of the different mindset that officials have been forced to adopt in the modern game where VAR is there to bail them out.

Is that simple enough for you to understand?

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Fabrice29

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  On 08/02/2025 at 14:21, Sheaf Saint said:

Oh fuck off you boring, argumentative little troll.

For the last time, before I put you on ignore...

Yes - officials make mistakes with or without VAR. Nobody is disputing that FFS.

Week in week out in the PL these days, I see Lino's being very hesitant to make offside calls. That is obviously influenced by the use of VAR. 

This particular mistake, given that it was a dead ball situation, is an obvious howler from the lino. So I'm merely raising the suggestion that the hesitancy to raise his flag MIGHT have been because of the different mindset that officials have been forced to adopt in the modern game where VAR is there to bail them out.

Is that simple enough for you to understand?

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It was simple enough to understand the first time you said it, hence why I said it was absurd. It's you that seems to be hell bent on explaining it in simpler terms and guess what, its still silly.

benjii

benjii

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How on earth has the lino flagged that goal? It's literally just a guess.

Surely he has to be certain to flag that, and there's no way he is certain.

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aintforever

aintforever

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  On 08/02/2025 at 18:39, benjii said:

How on earth has the lino flagged that goal? It's literally just a guess.

Surely he has to be certain to flag that, and there's no way he is certain.

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Since we’ve had VAR it’s become obvious how many of the official’s decisions have been pure guesswork. It’s near on impossible for a Lino to get many of these tight offside decisions right. You’ve got some bloke jogging down the line desperately trying to keep up with athletes, then he has to watch when a player kicks the ball and try to work out if some others on a different part of the pitch we’re in line at the time or not - it’s ridiculous. It’s the same for the ball crossing the goal line, it’s nearly always just guesswork.

I would get VAR involved more, there are still many times in the Prem where the clowns on the pitch just guess, and we all know that guesses tend to favour the big clubs, especially when they are at home.

 

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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  On 09/02/2025 at 07:24, aintforever said:

Since we’ve had VAR it’s become obvious how many of the official’s decisions have been pure guesswork. It’s near on impossible for a Lino to get many of these tight offside decisions right. You’ve got some bloke jogging down the line desperately trying to keep up with athletes, then he has to watch when a player kicks the ball and try to work out if some others on a different part of the pitch we’re in line at the time or not - it’s ridiculous. It’s the same for the ball crossing the goal line, it’s nearly always just guesswork.

I would get VAR involved more, there are still many times in the Prem where the clowns on the pitch just guess, and we all know that guesses tend to favour the big clubs, especially when they are at home.

 

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Well that’s pure rubbish. Being a linesman (Assistant Referee) is a skilled job that requires a lot of specialist training which is why they stick to that field of officiating although they can referee if needed.

They are just as fit as the players so when you say “trying to keep up” you are quite simply wrong.

To be blunt, you haven’t got a clue. And I don’t say that very often, if ever. You may be the first 😉

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benjii

benjii

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  On 09/02/2025 at 07:24, aintforever said:

Since we’ve had VAR it’s become obvious how many of the official’s decisions have been pure guesswork. It’s near on impossible for a Lino to get many of these tight offside decisions right. You’ve got some bloke jogging down the line desperately trying to keep up with athletes, then he has to watch when a player kicks the ball and try to work out if some others on a different part of the pitch we’re in line at the time or not - it’s ridiculous. It’s the same for the ball crossing the goal line, it’s nearly always just guesswork.

I would get VAR involved more, there are still many times in the Prem where the clowns on the pitch just guess, and we all know that guesses tend to favour the big clubs, especially when they are at home.

 

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VAR for offsides and tech for goal line, absolutely. Although with that level of precision for offsides, the law itself needs review as calling offsides over sleeve lines / arse cheeks etc. is a nonsense. Should be based on farthest back part of attacker's foot versus farthest forward part of the defender's foot, or something like that. 

But VAR intervening in judgement calls has not helped at all IMO. Still completely inconsistent. The foul on Ramsdale at Selhurst was blatant. No intervention. Whereas the foul given against us at Wolves was 50/50 at best (I'd say more like 70/30 in our favour) yet they intervened. Then we got a ridiculous decision in our favour against Brentford at home. All nonsense.

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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Mental that Freed from Desire is now a global sporting anthem because some bloke from Wigan quite liked Will Grigg. Wouldn’t be surprised to hear it at the Superb Owl later.

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