Non-Saints Games - 24/25

[Gloucester Saint]

8 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Carsley can fuck off if he can’t even be bothered to sing the national anthem.  I know he played for Ireland, but he’s about as Irish as Jack Charlton and the City Centre clock.

Surprising that he didn’t answer Ireland’s call.

Free header given away at the first corner.

[Lighthouse]

13 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Carsley can fuck off if he can’t even be bothered to sing the national anthem.  I know he played for Ireland, but he’s about as Irish as Jack Charlton and the City Centre clock.

TBH I wouldn't either; it's deadful.

[steve green]

Well that's pleased the irish crowd, lets hope Grealish pops one in as well.

[whelk]

This could be 8-0 if don’t take foot off. Ireland are hopeless

[AlexLaw76]

LOL, Grealish and Rice scoring

[Sheaf Saint]

2 minutes ago, whelk said:

This could be 8-0 if don’t take foot off. Ireland are hopeless

But they've got the mighty Smallbone in midfield. They can't be that bad.

[Gloucester Saint]

5 minutes ago, whelk said:

This could be 8-0 if don’t take foot off. Ireland are hopeless

Will Smallbone as effective for RoI as he’s been for Saints this season. Needs to hit the gym and weights big time, Declan Rice is hard to deal with anyway but 10 stone dripping wet doesn’t cut it. Get on the protein shakes as well.

Edited 7 September, 2024 by Gloucester Saint

[whelk]

Whoever doesn’t want TAA in England team is an idiot

[CB Fry]

What kit do you think we will wear in the World Cup final?

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

This actually vaguely entertaining by England standards.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

37 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Surprising that he didn’t answer Ireland’s call.

Free header given away at the first corner.

"Last Orders!"

[Disco Stu]

1 minute ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

This actually vaguely entertaining by England standards.

Thanks to Southgate getting us relegated in the nations league, we'll beat a few low ranking teams and Carsley will get the job full-time. Another that's achieved nothing in senior management.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

16 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

But they've got the mighty Smallbone in midfield. They can't be that bad.

Not been watching. Are they playing a possession game with quick passing through midfield, to get the best out of Will?

[sadoldgit]

   1 hour ago,  Wade Garrett said:

Carsley can fuck off if he can’t even be bothered to sing the national anthem.

If he wins football matches playing attractive, attacking football he could sing Wonderwall instead for all I care.

Edited 7 September, 2024 by sadoldgit

[Turkish]

28 minutes ago, whelk said:

Whoever doesn’t want TAA in England team is an idiot

Not as a central midfielder, Never. He’s decent as a right back in games where we have a lot of the ball but the real test will come against decent teams as with Liverpool defensively he gets exposed. 

[Turkish]

34 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Will Smallbone as effective for RoI as he’s been for Saints this season. Needs to hit the gym and weights big time, Declan Rice is hard to deal with anyway but 10 stone dripping wet doesn’t cut it. Get on the protein shakes as well.

They’ve hardly had the ball to be fair and winning it back isn’t his game. 
he needs steak and compound lifts. 

[ErwinK1961]

Carsley will get the job I reckon. Good job with the 21’s, will be tasked with bringing through the next batch, easy decision for the FA.

[whelk]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Not as a central midfielder, Never. He’s decent as a right back in games where we have a lot of the ball but the real test will come against decent teams as with Liverpool defensively he gets exposed. 

Agree and was Southgate who hung him experimenting in a major final when had 2 years of games to try it if he thought it would work. TAA’s distribution is excellent however much you hate scousers

[whelk]

1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Carsley will get the job I reckon. Good job with the 21’s, will be tasked with bringing through the next batch, easy decision for the FA.

Ireland look like they would struggle to get out of League 1 

[whelk]

32 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

What kit do you think we will wear in the World Cup final?

I just booked hotel in New York

[AlexLaw76]

Hopefully, Smallbone will need a rest at the weekend 

[whelk]

Drop Maguire FFS

[danjosaint]

You can see why we've struggled in cm, smallbone has been utterly wank 

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, whelk said:

Agree and was Southgate who hung him experimenting in a major final when had 2 years of games to try it if he thought it would work. TAA’s distribution is excellent however much you hate scousers

It was ridiculous.

his distribution is good but this is an easy game against a pretty poor level opposition. I’m not convinced he’s good enough defensively to be first choice right back for England. 

[ErwinK1961]

11 minutes ago, whelk said:

Ireland look like they would struggle to get out of League 1 

Agreed, but not basing it on this game - think they’ll announce it quietly after next international break.

[Sheaf Saint]

Coleman getting injured is a real blow for Everton. Leaves them potentially needing to play Holgate at RB. 

What a shame.

[beatlesaint]

29 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Coleman getting injured is a real blow for Everton. Leaves them potentially needing to play Holgate at RB. 

What a shame.

He’s back at WBA on loan

[spyinthesky]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Not as a central midfielder, Never. He’s decent as a right back in games where we have a lot of the ball but the real test will come against decent teams as with Liverpool defensively he gets exposed. 

Great one through ball in the first half but some of his other passes were not particularly good

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Great one through ball in the first half but some of his other passes were not particularly good

The one in his own penalty area for example 🤣🤣

[lhammondo]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Not as a central midfielder, Never. He’s decent as a right back in games where we have a lot of the ball but the real test will come against decent teams as with Liverpool defensively he gets exposed. 

Did you not see how many times he gave the ball away? One giving the 'oirish a golden opportunity! Today TAA was very poor

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

He’s back at WBA on loan

Didn't realise that. Thanks.

[suewhistle]

2 hours ago, beatlesaint said:

He’s back at WBA on loan

Even bigger shame..

[obelisk]

5 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

Carsley can fuck off if he can’t even be bothered to sing the national anthem.  I know he played for Ireland, but he’s about as Irish as Jack Charlton and the City Centre clock.

Says nothing about the nation or its people. Just asking for some deity to save some rich person. I never sing it either. Always used to leave cinemas along with everyone else when it struck up back in the day.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

41 minutes ago, obelisk said:

Says nothing about the nation or its people. Just asking for some deity to save some rich person. I never sing it either. Always used to leave cinemas along with everyone else when it struck up back in the day.

Keeping the cinema theme, I'm all for the national anthem being replaced by Pearl & Dean.

 

[Saint Keef]

4 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Keeping the cinema theme, I'm all for the national anthem being replaced by Pearl & Dean.

 

My Grandparents were actually called Pearl and Dean. We just used to call them Grandma and Gran pa pa pa pa pa pa papapa.

[Saint in Paradise]

I prefer Billy Connolly's suggestion:-

 

 

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Saint in Paradise said:

I prefer Billy Connolly's suggestion:-

 

 

 

Lawrie getting a couple of appearances (keeping this Saints related) 🙂

 

Pearl & Dean is also versatile. Here it's combined with Led Zeppelin....

 

[Sheaf Saint]

The goal NI conceded against Bulgaria earlier had a very Saintsy feel about it.

[Wade Garrett]

On 07/09/2024 at 17:41, whelk said:

Whoever doesn’t want TAA in England team is an idiot

I’m an idiot then 😂.

He can’t defend, and he gives the ball away far too much.

We have better full-backs in my humble opinion.

[Wade Garrett]

On 07/09/2024 at 18:05, sadoldgit said:

 

   1 hour ago,  Wade Garrett said:

Carsley can fuck off if he can’t even be bothered to sing the national anthem.

If he wins football matches playing attractive, attacking football he could sing Wonderwall instead for all I care.

Good point 😂

[Wade Garrett]

On 07/09/2024 at 22:07, obelisk said:

Says nothing about the nation or its people. Just asking for some deity to save some rich person. I never sing it either. Always used to leave cinemas along with everyone else when it struck up back in the day.

Fucking commie 😂

[Nordic Saint]

Bednarek takes Russball to Poland:

What Polish media said about Southampton defender Jan Bednarek after Poland's 1-0 defeat vs Croatia (southamptonfc.news)

[Patrick Bateman]

On 08/09/2024 at 07:57, Saint in Paradise said:

I prefer Billy Connolly's suggestion:-

 

 

 

I always forgot how genius he was at standup, thanks for sharing! Brilliant!

[Dman]

On 07/09/2024 at 17:52, Disco Stu said:

Thanks to Southgate getting us relegated in the nations league, we'll beat a few low ranking teams and Carsley will get the job full-time. Another that's achieved nothing in senior management.

He had success with this group of players (or soon to be group of players) at the euro-u21's, by that alone, he's achieved more than any other home nations manager in the PL. 

Unless Pep or Carlo come along (or the FA grow a pair and appoint someone like Jose), he's the best option for us. 

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

52 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

Bednarek takes Russball to Poland:

What Polish media said about Southampton defender Jan Bednarek after Poland's 1-0 defeat vs Croatia (southamptonfc.news)

Tough for Bednarek, who is now too advanced in his ability to control games, for anyone else on the pitch. 🙂

[E_H_Saints]

I thought the criticism was well written and exactly what's wrong with out defending.  Before they came think about playing high or passing too close to our box they need to focus on basic defending.  Mke us difficult to score against.  

[whelk]

1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

I’m an idiot then 😂.

He can’t defend, and he gives the ball away far too much.

We have better full-backs in my humble opinion.

TBF I wrote that when he started game brightly and then proceeded to be shit.  I gave up even watching the game as same old frustrating England. So yeah completely get people not wanting him in the team 
 

[Disco Stu]

3 hours ago, Dman said:

He had success with this group of players (or soon to be group of players) at the euro-u21's, by that alone, he's achieved more than any other home nations manager in the PL. 

Unless Pep or Carlo come along (or the FA grow a pair and appoint someone like Jose), he's the best option for us. 

 

Youth management is a different skillset and we'll learn absolutely nothing against low ranked teams in the nations league.

When it comes down to the crunch games, and the pressure that involves, he's completely untested. No such pressure exists in youth football.

Like the Americans, we shouldn't limit ourselves to only domestic talent. If we can't find the English talent, look elsewhere. Pochettino has extensive senior management experience and unlike Carsley, he played in major international tournaments as well.

We should be approaching names like Xavi, Low, Tuchel, Zidane (if he speaks English)... I doubt we've approached anyone.

I refuse to believe his CV is the best we can attract but we all know the FA have already decided he's got the job.

 

Edited 9 September, 2024 by Disco Stu

[Dman]

40 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

Youth management is a different skillset and we'll learn absolutely nothing against low ranked teams in the nations league.

When it comes down to the crunch games, and the pressure that involves, he's completely untested. No such pressure exists in youth football.

Like the Americans, we shouldn't limit ourselves to only domestic talent. If we can't find the English talent, look elsewhere. Pochettino has extensive senior management experience and unlike Carsley, he played in major international tournaments as well.

We should be approaching names like Xavi, Low, Tuchel, Zidane (if he speaks English)... I doubt we've approached anyone.

I refuse to believe his CV is the best we can attract but we all know the FA have already decided he's got the job.

 

National management is a different skillset to club management. 

Zidane, reasonable enough shout based on CV. Although I'd want to see him do something with someone other than Madrid (why hasn't he taken another job - waiting for France?) and I doubt talks english and/or be interested. 

Low & Tuchel both German and I'd rather win nothing than a german win it for us. Low lasts 2 tournaments as Germany manager were a disaster. 

Poch, won nothing and is an argie (see above).

Xavi...? Other than an underwhleming stint at Barca, what on earth has he done to warrent the job. You've just shown that you're after a big name rather than the right name. 

[Disco Stu]

2 hours ago, Dman said:

National management is a different skillset to club management. 

Zidane, reasonable enough shout based on CV. Although I'd want to see him do something with someone other than Madrid (why hasn't he taken another job - waiting for France?) and I doubt talks english and/or be interested. 

Low & Tuchel both German and I'd rather win nothing than a german win it for us. Low lasts 2 tournaments as Germany manager were a disaster. 

Poch, won nothing and is an argie (see above).

Xavi...? Other than an underwhleming stint at Barca, what on earth has he done to warrent the job. You've just shown that you're after a big name rather than the right name. 

I think the pressures and quality of opposition manager they face in senior club managment is a better test for their aptitude than international youth management is. They have all shown they can manage big characters at senior level and have playing or management experience in major international tournaments. They've all won silverware in senior management. They've proven they can thrive under pressure. They're all far more qualified as far as I'm concerned and personally, I couldn't care less if our manager is German. It's a one sided rivalry anyway.

These are the high profile names currently out of work that come to mind but that's not to say there aren't others that are more qualified than Carsley. I'd even rank the likes of Potter and Solskjaer clear of Carsley on the basis they have both managed senior teams to silverware.

Youth football is a skillset more dominated by player welfare and development than expectation. It's also a place inexperienced managers go to learn their trade. When we go to the world cup, he'll be up against seasoned managers with a lot more nous. Carsley is not the best man for the job nor do I believe he's the best man that wants the job.

 

Edited 9 September, 2024 by Disco Stu