Tommy Robinson Appreciation Thread

[Saint Fan CaM]

4 hours ago, ecuk268 said:

The figure for migrant men is 82% compared with the figure for UK nationals of 78%.

This for all migrants between the ages of 16 to 64.

For a start you’re not comparing apples with apples - why not quote UK National men or for that matter why not quote all migrants…women and men? And anyway, if those numbers are true, is it also true therefore that 18% of migrant men claim benefits and use the NHS without doing a single days work and contributing tax/NI? That’s 18% of how many migrants in the last 14 years?

[Whitey Grandad]

6 hours ago, a1ex2001 said:

The uk population has grown by 0.6% per year on average over the last 10 years which isn’t beyond the ability of a functioning government to plan for.  Migration has kept the age demographic of the UK roughly stable despite the boomer generation entering retirement and a birth rate below replacement levels.  Take migration out of the equation and the UK population likely goes into decline and with an ageing population that is an economic and social nightmare.

Not as much of a nightmare as an ever-growing population.

[a1ex2001]

1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Not as much of a nightmare as an ever-growing population.

Both have problems but an uncontrolled shrinking population with our current population demographic would be significantly more problematic than our current slowly growing one.  Houses and other facilities can be built a workforce to care for and financially support our population cannot be, robots and AI aren’t that good. Not to mention our entire financial system is built on growth.  Long term global populations are due to decline which will take careful planning and management of the transition and amusingly potentially western countries ‘fighting’ over migrants.

I do find your posting style amusing, nit pick one line from long posts and ignore the posts that correct your errors, classic and predictable.

Edited 13 August, 2024 by a1ex2001

[Weston Super Saint]

7 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

For a start you’re not comparing apples with apples - why not quote UK National men or for that matter why not quote all migrants…women and men? And anyway, if those numbers are true, is it also true therefore that 18% of migrant men claim benefits and use the NHS without doing a single days work and contributing tax/NI? That’s 18% of how many migrants in the last 14 years?

Another assumption that the 'foreigners' are benefit scroungers.  It's clear where your thought processes go.

Have you considered that some of those men from the last 14 years could have reached retirement age and live off the pensions they have paid in to?

[Saint Fan CaM]

26 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Another assumption that the 'foreigners' are benefit scroungers.  It's clear where your thought processes go.

Have you considered that some of those men from the last 14 years could have reached retirement age and live off the pensions they have paid in to?

There you go again trying to attribute thoughts to me that you really have idea about and it you that is making assumptions, which is why I asked questions to provide you an opportunity to validate your figures. You didn’t and can’t. It’s all very well spouting numbers - where’s the solutions?

The issue here is one of sustainability in a social care program that is on the brink of collapse. At what point do we say, there is no more money to do all the things we’d like to do? Look at the numbers of migrants waiting for their claims to be processed - how will that queue get resolved without the resources to do so? Are you willing to pay more tax to get the job done?

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

There you go again trying to attribute thoughts to me that you really have idea about and it you that is making assumptions, which is why I asked questions to provide you an opportunity to validate your figures. You didn’t and can’t. It’s all very well spouting numbers - where’s the solutions?

The issue here is one of sustainability in a social care program that is on the brink of collapse. At what point do we say, there is no more money to do all the things we’d like to do? Look at the numbers of migrants waiting for their claims to be processed - how will that queue get resolved without the resources to do so? Are you willing to pay more tax to get the job done?

The cost to get the waiting list down will be very small in relative terms (500 people at £30k pa, £15m pa) - that's not an issue. The problem is employing and upskilling the people to do it, but it will start coming down later this year. The waiting list has only grown because the Tories removed the majority of funding for it and reduced the workforce by 4/5ths.

Edited 13 August, 2024 by Farmer Saint

[ecuk268]

9 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

For a start you’re not comparing apples with apples - why not quote UK National men or for that matter why not quote all migrants…women and men? And anyway, if those numbers are true, is it also true therefore that 18% of migrant men claim benefits and use the NHS without doing a single days work and contributing tax/NI? That’s 18% of how many migrants in the last 14 years?

Apologies, those figures are for men.

Perhaps you could give us the source for your statistics.

[Saint Fan CaM]

14 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Apologies, those figures are for men.

Perhaps you could give us the source for your statistics.

I’ll be honest and say my interest is in the holistic view of how our failing public services will be repaired, rather than gathering statistics. My issue is not your stats specifically, just that to ensure a proper fix is identified and deployed, it is essential to ensure that myths are exposed.

[ecuk268]

18 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

 My issue is not your stats specifically, just that to ensure a proper fix is identified and deployed, it is essential to ensure that myths are exposed.

Exactly, statistics are the best way of separating facts from myths.

 

[east-stand-nic]

On 10/08/2024 at 14:20, whelk said:

See worldly wise Nic is back to giggling at posts. Couldn’t answer TameSaint’s point I guess as clearly lives in ex-pat communities thinking he is experiencing life from the far corners of the world (an expression Nic - the world isn’t actually flat)

Incorrect yet again. As I have said many times, there is little if any point to answering questions from the likes of you Tame, TD/Sog etc as you read things in a totally crazy way and miss the point. And no, I could not live further from an expat community being in a small town 550 KM from Bangkok, so you look rather silly again do you not.

Do you ever get anything right?

[whelk]

48 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Incorrect yet again. As I have said many times, there is little if any point to answering questions from the likes of you Tame, TD/Sog etc as you read things in a totally crazy way and miss the point. And no, I could not live further from an expat community being in a small town 550 KM from Bangkok, so you look rather silly again do you not.

Do you ever get anything right?

There’s no outfoxing you. I give up, I cannot compete with such an intellectual colossus.

 

 

[CB Fry]

As far as I’m concerned, East Stand Nic is very much the leader, the leader of the gang. He is. Come on.

[east-stand-nic]

On 10/08/2024 at 14:20, whelk said:

See worldly wise Nic is back to giggling at posts. Couldn’t answer TameSaint’s point I guess as clearly lives in ex-pat communities thinking he is experiencing life from the far corners of the world (an expression Nic - the world isn’t actually flat)

You see, this above is your undoing. Silly assumptions. You would do well to stop with them so you do not look such a fool all the time. One does not need to be an intellectual colossus to outwit most on here as the common error of posters on this forum is reading wrong whilst making silly assumptions.

[Lighthouse]

17 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

You see, this above is your undoing. Silly assumptions. You would do well to stop with them so you do not look such a fool all the time. One does not need to be an intellectual colossus to outwit most on here as the common error of posters on this forum is reading wrong whilst making silly assumptions.

You know what, I fully agree. You are clearly a far, far superior wit and intellect to any of the druids on here. So much so that it’s actually a total waste of your time posting on here at all. I suggest you leave for a forum more befitting of your wisdom and leave us simpletons to our meaningless dribbling.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

As far as I’m concerned, East Stand Nic is very much the leader, the leader of the gang. He is. 

Edited 4 September, 2024 by Gloucester Saint

[whelk]

50 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

You see, this above is your undoing. Silly assumptions. You would do well to stop with them so you do not look such a fool all the time. One does not need to be an intellectual colossus to outwit most on here as the common error of posters on this forum is reading wrong whilst making silly assumptions.

I think you have misplaced appreciation of the importance of reputation here. When I take the piss I am not overly bothered about the veracity or accuracy of the piss take. Whereas you have some anal obsession with semantics in what is a lighthearted throwaway space. 

[whelk]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

You know what, I fully agree. You are clearly a far, far superior wit and intellect to any of the druids on here. So much so that it’s actually a total waste of your time posting on here at all. I suggest you leave for a forum more befitting of your wisdom and leave us simpletons to our meaningless dribbling.

You haven’t banned him I hope?

[east-stand-nic]

On 04/09/2024 at 18:54, whelk said:

I think you have misplaced appreciation of the importance of reputation here. When I take the piss I am not overly bothered about the veracity or accuracy of the piss take. Whereas you have some anal obsession with semantics in what is a lighthearted throwaway space. 

Roughly translated as "damn, he has done me again. I need to stop these silly assumptions and learn to read slower and take things in so I do not end up looking such a dope'.

You'll get there in the end.

 

[east-stand-nic]

On 04/09/2024 at 18:19, Lighthouse said:

You know what, I fully agree. You are clearly a far, far superior wit and intellect to any of the druids on here. So much so that it’s actually a total waste of your time posting on here at all. I suggest you leave for a forum more befitting of your wisdom and leave us simpletons to our meaningless dribbling.

Aww, going to ban me now are you? It would not surprise me. Basically, it seems on here admins ban people for having a different option, whilst they broke no rules at all. Not so much an admin, more like perhaps a dictator, yes?

[whelk]

1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

Roughly translated as "damn, he has done me again. I need to stop these silly assumptions and learn to read slower and take things in so I do not end up looking such a dope'.

You'll get there in the end.

 

Given your limited cognitive ability and the high opinion you have of yourself this is unsurprising 

[trousers]

Chomp, chomp, chomp....

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

Aww, going to ban me now are you? It would not surprise me. Basically, it seems on here admins ban people for having a different option, whilst they broke no rules at all. Not so much an admin, more like perhaps a dictator, yes?

Don't you berate other people for having a different opinion like every single time you post?

[sadoldgit]

3 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

Aww, going to ban me now are you? It would not surprise me. Basically, it seems on here admins ban people for having a different option, whilst they broke no rules at all. Not so much an admin, more like perhaps a dictator, yes?

He was suggesting that you are wasting your time here amongst us inferior beings. Perhaps try a MENSA forum?

No one is going to ban you nic, you are far too entertaining. Your “different options” are always worth a chuckle for those of us not bright enough to understand them.

[Lighthouse]

I've not had an option for years, might grab some from Tesco later.

[ecuk268]

45 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

He was suggesting that you are wasting your time here amongst us inferior beings. Perhaps try a MENSA forum?

 

If you think that some people on here are weird, you should try MENSA.

[Guided Missile]

Who'd have thought that Musk has joined the Tommy Robinson Appreciation Society, along with Jordan Peterson. Even more surprising is the prospect of Tommy bringing down Starmer and Farage. A distinct possibility

[whelk]

Look at me i’m leaving 

no-one gives a fuck

Look at me I’m back

SAD

[benjii]

"I agree with Jordan Peterson and Elon Musk". Lolz. Mega flex.

[Turkish]

Elon Musks dad now comparing him to Nelson Mandela 🤣

[Gloucester Saint]

11 hours ago, Turkish said:

Elon Musks dad now comparing him to Nelson Mandela 🤣

Apple didn’t fall far from the tree there, richest man in the world or not.

I bet his dad sounds like one of those SA government spokesmen who used to appear on TV in the apartheid era.

Edited January 8 by Gloucester Saint

[SotonianWill]

12 hours ago, benjii said:

"I agree with Jordan Peterson and Elon Musk". Lolz. Mega flex.

[tdmickey3]

Tommy Robinson loses bid to challenge prison segregation in High Court | UK News | Sky News

 

Great news for the racist and his racist followers 🤝

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, tdmickey3 said:

Tommy Robinson loses bid to challenge prison segregation in High Court | UK News | Sky News

 

Great news for the racist and his racist followers 🤝

I really don't get the controversy about how he's been treated. He released a film with claims that couldn't be proven, the judge told him to stop and he refused and then kept showing it repeatedly until they charged and convicted him for it. Just don't show the film any more jesus christ. 

[whelk]

10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I really don't get the controversy about how he's been treated. He released a film with claims that couldn't be proven, the judge told him to stop and he refused and then kept showing it repeatedly until they charged and convicted him for it. Just don't show the film any more jesus christ. 

He needs to be a victim but just foolish. Laws must be upheld. 

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

He needs to be a victim but just foolish. Laws must be upheld. 

Exactly. Even if what he claimed in the film was true, if you've been ordered by the court to stop showing it or you will go to prison then you can't really have any complaints when you keep showing it. It's entirely self inflicted. His kids must be fucking gutted that he's out of their lives for so long over something so stupid. 

Edited March 21 by hypochondriac

[badgerx16]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Exactly. Even if what he claimed in the film was true, if you've been ordered by the court to stop showing it or you will go to prison then you can't really have any complaints when you keep showing it. It's entirely self inflicted. His kids must be fucking gutted that he's out of their lives for so long over something so stupid. 

His kids might be gutted because they are his kids.

[hypochondriac]

And all this stuff about solitary confinement. He basically forced the authorities to arrest him and his profile is such that he can't safely be housed with anyone else. What other options are there other than keeping him away from others for his own protection? You can bet if they did anything else and he got badly injured or killed that everyone supporting him would be shouting about how incompetent the authorities are. Ultimately if he had just stopped showing the film then he wouldn't be in this situation. 

[hypochondriac]

7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

His kids might be gutted because they are his kids.

He might be a lovely dad I've got no idea as I don't know him personally. What we can say for sure as that carrying on like this and getting jailed for something that was entirely avoidable is completely irresponsible parenting. If he loves his children then he had no need to do something so stupid. He hasn't achieved anything by continuing to show that film. 

[tdmickey3]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

And all this stuff about solitary confinement. He basically forced the authorities to arrest him and his profile is such that he can't safely be housed with anyone else. What other options are there other than keeping him away from others for his own protection? You can bet if they did anything else and he got badly injured or killed that everyone supporting him would be shouting about how incompetent the authorities are. Ultimately if he had just stopped showing the film then he wouldn't be in this situation. 

If the prison service "accidentally" let his segregation slip then a good hiding may deter him from being a such a cunt and deter him from further racism incitement.

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

If the prison service "accidentally" let his segregation slip then a good hiding may deter him from being a such a cunt and deter him from further racism incitement.

I genuinely think that in his mind he thinks he has a noble cause and in fairness to him, from what I've seen he has a point about extremist islam and societal changes in the last few decades with some of what he says. The problem is that firstly he's a bit thick and many people who support him are openly racist and just want to attack Brown people and secondly he's in some weird partnership with the Blaze from Canada and Ezra lavant who is an extremely shady character along with proper grifters like Dan Wotton and that side of things is judt about pushing a false narrative and milking his supporters for donations. 

The authorities know that allowing him to get a kicking in prison could be one of the worst things to happen and those with a misplaced sense of grievance about him being unjustly persecuted will feel vindicated and likely want to take some actions themselves. 

[sadoldgit]

Hypochondriac aligns himself with similar views as Tommy Robinson shock, horror. 

[hypochondriac]

10 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Hypochondriac aligns himself with similar views as Tommy Robinson shock, horror. 

Soggy loves a troll. 

[Turkish]

59 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Exactly. Even if what he claimed in the film was true, if you've been ordered by the court to stop showing it or you will go to prison then you can't really have any complaints when you keep showing it. It's entirely self inflicted. His kids must be fucking gutted that he's out of their lives for so long over something so stupid. 

 

10 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Hypochondriac aligns himself with similar views as Tommy Robinson shock, horror. 

Apart from the bit where he said he deserves to be in prison you mean?

In your desperation to have a dig at one of the usual suspects you didnt even bother reading or understanding what he said

What a bitter, odd person you are.

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

 

Apart from the bit where he said he deserves to be in prison you mean?

In your desperation to have a dig at one of the usual suspects you didnt even bother reading or understanding what he said

What a bitter, odd person you are.

He definitely only read the last post and none of the others. Egg all over his face as usual! It must be so hard for him when someone says something that doesn't align with the caricature he has of them in his head. 

Edited March 21 by hypochondriac

[Turkish]

10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

He definitely only read the last post and none of the others. Egg all over his face as usual! It must be so hard for him when someone says something that doesn't align with the caricature he has of them in his head. 

Does anyone, apart from himself, take anything he says seriously these days?

Considering he tries so hard to be the voice of the forum and a bastion of all things noble he, almost daily, shows himself to be a complete and utter crumpet, the above post another brilliant example, bit like the other day when he thought he'd achieved some sort of victory because he found a thread i started on Andrew Tate, so desperate to get the win he failed to understand the thread was taking the piss out of Andrew Tate. 

[aintforever]

2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

He might be a lovely dad I've got no idea as I don't know him personally.  

Well he's a football hooligan, racist and has got himself banging up in jail so he's going to need bloody good bedtime-reading skills to win Dad of the Year.

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Well he's a football hooligan, racist and has got himself banging up in jail so he's going to need bloody good bedtime-reading skills to win Dad of the Year.

thats very funny for you, well done. 

[hypochondriac]

11 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Well he's a football hooligan, racist and has got himself banging up in jail so he's going to need bloody good bedtime-reading skills to win Dad of the Year.

Wilfully misreading what I wrote. Well done. 

[RedArmy]

3 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

If the prison service "accidentally" let his segregation slip then a good hiding may deter him from being a such a cunt and deter him from further racism incitement.

Probably not. They’ve done that in the past, “accidentally” left him alone in a room full of Muslims who smashed his teeth out during one of his many prison sentences. Didn’t deter him from being a cunt at all. 

Edited March 21 by RedArmy

[Turkish]

6 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Soggy loves a troll. 

Too bad he’s so bad at it and it usually backfires