ErwinK1961 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 6 minutes ago, Long Shot said: To be fair that’s exactly what Clinton Morrison said on Sky so perhaps it’s you who is speaking tosh? Clinton Morrison 😂😂😂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, jamesfp1 said: Did Sugawara have an injury? I simultaneously hope not (he looked great) and hope so (Martin is a moron if he chose to take him off). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 7 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: We were away to Newcastle on the opening day as a newly promoted side. You have to ask ourselves if we'd been at home today and gone down to ten men after 30 minutes would we have come away with anything other than a comfortable defeat? I think we all know the answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 I only caught the second half. Where the comments seemed to suggest we were doing fine, until an error cost us. Looking at the highlights ... One off the line, a strong save to stop AA among other good moments. We have a system where I'd trust Baz with passing it out and accross the box, and McCarthy to be a better shot stopper. Neither is currently ideal, but the replacement must genuinly be able to play to Martin's system, or we're going to have the same issues. Completely fair red card. Silly use of the head. Second half, we failed to stretch 10 men. Loads of possession. But the old lack of incisiveness when needing to change the risk. Newcastle were allowed to settle into defensive shape easily, and we did little to move them out of shape. We created none of the quick passing moves needed to shift and create chances there. The slow approach play gave Edozie lots of the ball, but with no outcome. We caused them no panic when holding their lead. Quite a lot of positives from the game, with new signings bedding in. Good to see youth used from the bench, and hope that Martin thinks they've developed enough to get more minutes. No surprise that we lacked that creative midfielder to try and unlock things, a 'keeper decent with both feet and hands, a more experienced driver out wide than Edozie and a strong presence up front. All areas we know we have to improve in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) Excellent performance. Unlucky not to get a point at least. It’s clear as day we have to either replace McCarthy or replace our tippy tap at the back. Pick a lane. Edited August 17 by SaintBobby 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Hopefully Sugawara was taken off at half time as precautionary because in the first half he was immense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMidSaint Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 That’s exactly the way I fear our season could go. Looked really good for most of the game, but if we play risk at the back we’ll get found out. Also, not enough upfront 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Would have been nice to get something out of it, but put in a decent performance didn’t get massively thrashed and hopefully it will be the trigger for fixing the goalkeeper situation! Plenty to be optimistic about for the rest of the season with the window still open. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 We need a new keeper definitely. But overall we were competitive and played fairly well. Think a lot of you need to reset your expectations for the season gauging some of the laughable comments on here, or you’re going to end up pretty depressed. Even if we stay up we’re going to be losing a lot of games. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 9 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Turns out distribution IS as important as shot stopping for a goal keeper then. Who'd have thought. I think we all know it’s important not to pass the ball straight to the opposition when you are a goalkeeper. So is being able to save shots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Play like that all season, we'll be alright. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 People on here made two predictions before the game. With one, regarding McCarthy inevitably making a mistake they were right. But all the dire predictions of being outclassed and losing 3 or 4 nil were utterly wrong. There was a lot of good to take from that and glaringly obvious where we are missing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 One thing this game does highlight is the worry I had before the game about Martin saying he doesn't care about positions. What this means is we have effectively no one up front and we lose the goal threat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, suewhistle said: People on here made two predictions before the game. With one, regarding McCarthy inevitably making a mistake they were right. But all the dire predictions of being outclassed and losing 3 or 4 nil were utterly wrong. There was a lot of good to take from that and glaringly obvious where we are missing. Personally I'd have preferred it to be 11vs11 for more of the game to see how we shaped up. It's difficult to tell when you play against 10. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Definitely not having it as an "excellent performance". Losing the game against 10 men for 60 minutes is embarrassing and we didn't have that many clear cut opportunities created throughout as well. We didn't get "outclassed" because the opposition had one less player and were content to sit back and make us break them down, we didn't. I was encouraged by how we played 11v11, but the second half, outside of the first 10/15 was horrendous. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Simple fact of the matter is we dropped points, if you play against ten for an hour you really should be getting something from the game. The fact that we had so much possession is actually quite alarming, patently we had no idea what to do with it when we had it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 5 minutes ago, saintant said: You have to ask ourselves if we'd been at home today and gone down to ten men after 30 minutes would we have come away with anything other than a comfortable defeat? I think we all know the answer. Because Newcastle are a better team than us.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 My only desire from this game was to see us score a goal. I knew it wouldn't happen when they went down to 10 men. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, ErwinK1961 said: Because Newcastle are a better team than us.. But they had ten men for an hour. That's the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, saintant said: But they had ten men for an hour. That's the point. And people were predicting 4,5 even 9-0 defeats before the game. If they were as good and we were a shit as everyone thought before the game, then them having 10 men wouldn’t make that big a difference. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 RM out 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Personally I'd have preferred it to be 11vs11 for more of the game to see how we shaped up. It's difficult to tell when you play against 10. This. Vast majority are forgetting that we played 2/3 of this match with an extra player. And still managed fuck all. I’m struggling to see how so many are seeing a positive from that statistic. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, ErwinK1961 said: And people were predicting 4,5 even 9-0 defeats before the game. If they were as good and we were a shit as everyone thought before the game, then them having 10 men wouldn’t make that big a difference. It didn’t. They won. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke SkyWalker-Peters Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Considering we are going to have two more starters for next week's game (Lesley and Archer) I thought that was a pretty good performance. Many recently promoted teams still get dominated even if the opposition have had a red. We look like we belong at this level. McCarthy THB, Bednarek, Stephens Sugawara, Downes, Lesley, KWP Armstrong, Archer, BBD 343. I think that could do a job next week. Obviously a GK on loan goes straight in the XI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the colonel Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 13 minutes ago, Topcat said: Do we practice taking corners? Yes, we just practiced 12 of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 3 minutes ago, HKsaint said: RM out You CANNOT be serious HK my old pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Up to the sending off we more than matched them, I wasn’t impressed with Newcastle and thought we could nick something. The sending off changed the whole game, and I disliked our formation in the second half. First half the best bit about our formation was how KWP and Suga were pulling them all over the place. Edozie is the same no-end-product merchant he’s always been. Crap result. Terrible ricket from AMC. Disappointing subs. Crap day. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 McCarthy is McCarthy and everyone knows he needs replacing. Team decent for the majority but no finish caused by lack of composure and some deflections and blocks. KWP brilliant, hope he stays with new contract or not, he is vital 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Celebrating a 1-0 defeat against 10 men ‘because we didn’t lose by 3 or 4’ is peak saints fans 😂😂 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 7 minutes ago, maysie said: We need a new keeper definitely. But overall we were competitive and played fairly well. Think a lot of you need to reset your expectations for the season gauging some of the laughable comments on here, or you’re going to end up pretty depressed. Even if we stay up we’re going to be losing a lot of games. I think it's gutting because we gave a good account of ourselves until they went down to ten men. To gift them a goal and then fail to rectify it in 45 minutes leaves a sour taste. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 People are talking like we just played 10 men of City or Arsenal. It was fucking Newcastle, they finished 7th last season and haven’t really strengthened at all. They’ll be 7th or lower again this season. To not get at least a point was a massive fail. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorba Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 We played well first half. Shouldn’t have gone in 1-0 down at half time but we did. Should have been able to score twice in the second half against 10 men when we’d played so well against 11 in the first half.. but we didn’t. Newcastle defended well and we couldn’t find the net. Don’t want to see any more shithousery from BBD - went down like a crackhouse whore. New keeper immediately please. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Put aside the frustration. Everyone makes mistakes. Archer's misses were as bad as McCarthy's. The key question is this: Based on what you saw today are you somewhat more convinced that Saints will survive and thrive this year? I definitely am. And I will gladly take that. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 minute ago, LGTL said: Celebrating a 1-0 defeat against 10 men ‘because we didn’t lose by 3 or 4’ is peak saints fans 😂😂 No one is celebrating ffs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 minute ago, LGTL said: Celebrating a 1-0 defeat against 10 men ‘because we didn’t lose by 3 or 4’ is peak saints fans 😂😂 Whose celebrating? Spoiler alert - no-one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermitzasaint Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 We look OK but only in areas where it doesn't matter. Newcastle were OK with us having the ball because we do the exact same thing over and over. Each corner was poor as were the free kicks. Suicidal passing in the box again, very little threat up front, lots of ponderous pointless passing in between. It's pretty much what RussBall is. I expect Martin to go on about how brave we were though, even though that's one thing we definitely were not. I don't blame McCarthy, he is doing what Martin demands of him 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 5 minutes ago, Luke SkyWalker-Peters said: Considering we are going to have two more starters for next week's game (Lesley and Archer) I thought that was a pretty good performance. Many recently promoted teams still get dominated even if the opposition have had a red. We look like we belong at this level. McCarthy THB, Bednarek, Stephens Sugawara, Downes, Lesley, KWP Armstrong, Archer, BBD 343. I think that could do a job next week. Obviously a GK on loan goes straight in the XI. I'd start Lumley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 2 minutes ago, LGTL said: Celebrating a 1-0 defeat against 10 men ‘because we didn’t lose by 3 or 4’ is peak saints fans 😂😂 Who’s celebrating? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 2 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said: Put aside the frustration. Everyone makes mistakes. Archer's misses were as bad as McCarthy's. The key question is this: Based on what you saw today are you somewhat more convinced that Saints will survive and thrive this year? I definitely am. And I will gladly take that. Misses - plural? Did I miss those? He had the header which should've been better, but? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 minute ago, Kermitzasaint said: We look OK but only in areas where it doesn't matter. Newcastle were OK with us having the ball because we do the exact same thing over and over. Each corner was poor as were the free kicks. Suicidal passing in the box again, very little threat up front, lots of ponderous pointless passing in between. It's pretty much what RussBall is. I expect Martin to go on about how brave we were though, even though that's one thing we definitely were not. I don't blame McCarthy, he is doing what Martin demands of him You don’t blame a professional footballer for not being able to make a basic pass, ok then. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said: You don’t blame a professional footballer for not being able to make a basic pass, ok then. Unbelievable isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 18 minutes ago, saintant said: You have to ask ourselves if we'd been at home today and gone down to ten men after 30 minutes would we have come away with anything other than a comfortable defeat? I think we all know the answer. Well, we're clearly an inferior team so I'm not sure where you're going with that one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemanson Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 6 minutes ago, LGTL said: Celebrating a 1-0 defeat against 10 men ‘because we didn’t lose by 3 or 4’ is peak saints fans 😂😂 Sitting in 17th place. #stopthecount 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Poor in both boxes but decent enough elsewhere. Hardly surprising 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 9 minutes ago, LGTL said: Celebrating a 1-0 defeat against 10 men ‘because we didn’t lose by 3 or 4’ is peak saints fans 😂😂 People making out anyone is "celebrating" anything is peak forum twat behaviour. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Sounds like we played well but were undone by a stupid mistake. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) I will look uncharacteristically at the positive.. We won’t be in the bottom 3 after matchweek 1. Edited August 17 by SaintTex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 9 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Misses - plural? Did I miss those? He had the header which should've been better, but? He had a shot on the turn that went well over the bar. Should've hit the target but wasn't exactly a great chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 2 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Sounds like we played well but were undone by a stupid mistake. Despite what you might read by some around here that's exactly it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 10 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: You don’t blame a professional footballer for not being able to make a basic pass, ok then. Russell already knows he can't make basic passes. At least he should. Encouraging that sort of play with McCarthy is madness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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