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saintant

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:00, sfc4prem said:

We were away to Newcastle on the opening day as a newly promoted side.

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You have to ask ourselves if we'd been at home today and gone down to ten men after 30 minutes would we have come away with anything other than a comfortable defeat? I think we all know the answer.

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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I only caught the second half. Where the comments seemed to suggest we were doing fine, until an error cost us.

Looking at the highlights ... One off the line, a strong save to stop AA among other good moments.

We have a system where I'd trust Baz with passing it out and accross the box, and McCarthy to be a better shot stopper. Neither is currently ideal, but the replacement must genuinly be able to play to Martin's system, or we're going to have the same issues.

Completely fair red card. Silly use of the head.

Second half, we failed to stretch 10 men.

Loads of possession. But the old lack of incisiveness when needing to change the risk. Newcastle were allowed to settle into defensive shape easily, and we did little to move them out of shape.

We created none of the quick passing moves needed to shift and create chances there. The slow approach play gave Edozie lots of the ball, but with no outcome. We caused them no panic when holding their lead.

Quite a lot of positives from the game, with new signings bedding in. Good to see youth used from the bench, and hope that Martin thinks they've developed enough to get more minutes.

No surprise that we lacked that creative midfielder to try and unlock things, a 'keeper decent with both feet and hands, a more experienced driver out wide than Edozie and a strong presence up front. All areas we know we have to improve in.

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SaintBobby

SaintBobby

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Excellent performance. Unlucky not to get a point at least. It’s clear as day we have to either replace McCarthy or replace our tippy tap at the back. Pick a lane.

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WestMidSaint

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That’s exactly the way I fear our season could go. Looked really good for most of the game, but if we play risk at the back we’ll get found out. Also, not enough upfront 

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a1ex2001

a1ex2001

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Would have been nice to get something out of it, but put in a decent performance didn’t get massively thrashed and hopefully it will be the trigger for fixing the goalkeeper situation!  Plenty to be optimistic about for the rest of the season with the window still open.

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maysie

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We need a new keeper definitely. But overall we were competitive and played fairly well.

Think a lot of you need to reset your expectations for the season gauging some of the laughable comments on here, or you’re going to end up pretty depressed. Even if we stay up we’re going to be losing a lot of games.

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stknowle

stknowle

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  On 17/08/2024 at 15:59, Lighthouse said:

Turns out distribution IS as important as shot stopping for a goal keeper then. Who'd have thought.

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I think we all know it’s important not to pass the ball straight to the opposition when you are a goalkeeper. So is being able to save shots. 

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suewhistle

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People on here made two predictions before the game. With one, regarding McCarthy inevitably making a mistake they were right. But all the dire predictions of being outclassed and losing 3 or 4 nil were utterly wrong. There was a lot of good to take from that and glaringly obvious where we are missing.

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hypochondriac

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One thing this game does highlight is the worry I had before the game about Martin saying he doesn't care about positions. What this means is we have effectively no one up front and we lose the goal threat. 

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hypochondriac

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:11, suewhistle said:

People on here made two predictions before the game. With one, regarding McCarthy inevitably making a mistake they were right. But all the dire predictions of being outclassed and losing 3 or 4 nil were utterly wrong. There was a lot of good to take from that and glaringly obvious where we are missing.

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Personally I'd have preferred it to be 11vs11 for more of the game to see how we shaped up. It's difficult to tell when you play against 10.

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Saint Matty 76

Saint Matty 76

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Definitely not having it as an "excellent performance". Losing the game against 10 men for 60 minutes is embarrassing and we didn't have that many clear cut opportunities created throughout as well.

We didn't get "outclassed" because the opposition had one less player and were content to sit back and make us break them down, we didn't.

I was encouraged by how we played 11v11, but the second half, outside of the first 10/15 was horrendous.

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Micky

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Simple fact of the matter is we dropped points, if you play against ten for an hour you really should be getting something from the game. The fact that we had so much possession is actually quite alarming, patently we had no idea what to do with it when we had it.

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ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:09, saintant said:

You have to ask ourselves if we'd been at home today and gone down to ten men after 30 minutes would we have come away with anything other than a comfortable defeat? I think we all know the answer.

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Because Newcastle are a better team than us..

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ErwinK1961

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:16, saintant said:

But they had ten men for an hour. That's the point.

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And people were predicting 4,5 even 9-0 defeats before the game. If they were as good and we were a shit as everyone thought before the game, then them having 10 men wouldn’t make that big a difference. 

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LGTL

LGTL

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:13, hypochondriac said:

Personally I'd have preferred it to be 11vs11 for more of the game to see how we shaped up. It's difficult to tell when you play against 10.

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This. Vast majority are forgetting that we played 2/3 of this match with an extra player. And still managed fuck all. 

I’m struggling to see how so many are seeing a positive from that statistic. 
 

 

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RedArmy

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:17, ErwinK1961 said:

And people were predicting 4,5 even 9-0 defeats before the game. If they were as good and we were a shit as everyone thought before the game, then them having 10 men wouldn’t make that big a difference. 

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It didn’t. 
 

They won. 

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Luke SkyWalker-Peters

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Considering we are going to have two more starters for next week's game (Lesley and Archer) I thought that was a pretty good performance. Many recently promoted teams still get dominated even if the opposition have had a red. We look like we belong at this level.

McCarthy
THB, Bednarek, Stephens
Sugawara, Downes, Lesley, KWP
Armstrong, Archer, BBD

343. I think that could do a job next week. Obviously a GK on loan goes straight in the XI.

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The Kraken

The Kraken

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Up to the sending off we more than matched them, I wasn’t impressed with Newcastle and thought we could nick something. The sending off changed the whole game, and I disliked our formation in the second half. First half the best bit about our formation was how KWP and Suga were pulling them all over the place. Edozie is the same no-end-product merchant he’s always been.

Crap result. Terrible ricket from AMC. Disappointing subs. Crap day.

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tdmickey3

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McCarthy is McCarthy and everyone knows he needs replacing.
Team decent for the majority but no finish caused by lack of composure and some deflections and blocks.

KWP brilliant, hope he stays with new contract or not, he is vital

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LGTL

LGTL

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Celebrating a 1-0 defeat against 10 men ‘because we didn’t lose by 3 or 4’ is peak saints fans 😂😂

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saintant

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:10, maysie said:

We need a new keeper definitely. But overall we were competitive and played fairly well.

Think a lot of you need to reset your expectations for the season gauging some of the laughable comments on here, or you’re going to end up pretty depressed. Even if we stay up we’re going to be losing a lot of games.

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I think it's gutting because we gave a good account of ourselves until they went down to ten men. To gift them a goal and then fail to rectify it in 45 minutes leaves a sour taste.

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RedArmy

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People are talking like we just played 10 men of City or Arsenal. 
 

It was fucking Newcastle, they finished 7th last season and haven’t really strengthened at all. They’ll be 7th or lower again this season. 
 

To not get at least a point was a massive fail. 

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Zorba

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We played well first half. Shouldn’t have gone in 1-0 down at half time but we did. Should have been able to score twice in the second half against 10 men when we’d played so well against 11 in the first half.. but we didn’t. Newcastle defended well and we couldn’t find the net.

Don’t want to see any more shithousery from BBD - went down like a crackhouse whore.

New keeper immediately please.

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NewYorkSaint

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Put aside the frustration. Everyone makes mistakes. Archer's misses were as bad as McCarthy's.   The key question is this:

Based on what you saw today are you somewhat more convinced that Saints will survive and thrive this year?   I definitely am. And I will gladly take that.

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Kermitzasaint

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We look OK but only in areas where it doesn't matter. Newcastle were OK with us having the ball because we do the exact same thing over and over. Each corner was poor as were the free kicks. Suicidal passing in the box again, very little threat up front, lots of ponderous pointless passing in between. It's pretty much what RussBall is. I expect Martin to go on about how brave we were though, even though that's one thing we definitely were not. 

I don't blame McCarthy, he is doing what Martin demands of him

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Harry_SFC

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:18, Luke SkyWalker-Peters said:

Considering we are going to have two more starters for next week's game (Lesley and Archer) I thought that was a pretty good performance. Many recently promoted teams still get dominated even if the opposition have had a red. We look like we belong at this level.

McCarthy
THB, Bednarek, Stephens
Sugawara, Downes, Lesley, KWP
Armstrong, Archer, BBD

343. I think that could do a job next week. Obviously a GK on loan goes straight in the XI.

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I'd start Lumley.

SambaMaverick

SambaMaverick

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:22, NewYorkSaint said:

Put aside the frustration. Everyone makes mistakes. Archer's misses were as bad as McCarthy's.   The key question is this:

Based on what you saw today are you somewhat more convinced that Saints will survive and thrive this year?   I definitely am. And I will gladly take that.

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Misses - plural? Did I miss those? He had the header which should've been better, but?

ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:24, Kermitzasaint said:

We look OK but only in areas where it doesn't matter. Newcastle were OK with us having the ball because we do the exact same thing over and over. Each corner was poor as were the free kicks. Suicidal passing in the box again, very little threat up front, lots of ponderous pointless passing in between. It's pretty much what RussBall is. I expect Martin to go on about how brave we were though, even though that's one thing we definitely were not. 

I don't blame McCarthy, he is doing what Martin demands of him

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You don’t blame a professional footballer for not being able to make a basic pass, ok then.

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sfc4prem

sfc4prem

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:09, saintant said:

You have to ask ourselves if we'd been at home today and gone down to ten men after 30 minutes would we have come away with anything other than a comfortable defeat? I think we all know the answer.

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Well, we're clearly an inferior team so I'm not sure where you're going with that one?

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:21, LGTL said:

Celebrating a 1-0 defeat against 10 men ‘because we didn’t lose by 3 or 4’ is peak saints fans 😂😂

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People making out anyone is "celebrating" anything is peak forum twat behaviour.

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Disco Stu

Disco Stu

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  On 17/08/2024 at 16:26, ErwinK1961 said:

You don’t blame a professional footballer for not being able to make a basic pass, ok then.

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Russell already knows he can't make basic passes. At least he should. Encouraging that sort of play with McCarthy is madness.

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