Ben Brereton Diaz

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

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Edited 11 August, 2024 by TheAlehouseBrawlers

[skintsaint]

Another record broken might be broken in Saints colours..

Edited 1 September, 2024 by skintsaint

[spyinthesky]

Seems to be in line with Saints recent record in the Prem.
When did we last win a Prem game?
It must have been a rare event under Nathan Jones

[Whitey Grandad]

18 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Seems to be in line with Saints recent record in the Prem.
When did we last win a Prem game?
It must have been a rare event under Nathan Jones

16th April 2022. We beat Arsenal 1-0.

[Football Special]

11 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

16th April 2022. We beat Arsenal 1-0.

Leicester home March 2023 isn't it 

[Whitey Grandad]

5 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Leicester home March 2023 isn't it 

Ah, thanks. The commentator during yesterday’s game mentioned something about it being March but I couldn’t find it. She also mentioned our run in the PL without a win. 16 games so far and counting.

[Football Special]

4 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Ah, thanks. The commentator during yesterday’s game mentioned something about it being March but I couldn’t find it. She also mentioned our run in the PL without a win. 16 games so far and counting.

What's our record? Premier league record? Although doesn't really count when over different seasons with manager and players changes. 

[Whitey Grandad]

12 minutes ago, Football Special said:

What's our record? Premier league record? Although doesn't really count when over different seasons with manager and players changes. 

No of course it doesn’t. Spyinthesky asked the question and I gave the wrong answer.

[revolution saint]

Been disappointed with BBD so far. Early days and all that but he doesn’t look great out on the left.

[Stu Man Do]

Think he has been worse than poor so far. No threat to the goal. Poor weight of pass and limited quality of first touch. Not helped by the tactics but his shithousery levels need to be backed up by being actually half decent.

[hypochondriac]

Not convinced me he's a premier league player yet. Very limited ability on display so far. 

[sfc4prem]

Been really poor so far, doesn't seem to have the touch or skill to be able to beat a player. Hasn't had the composure to finish the odd chance he's had either - his header at St James's, for example.

[saint francis]

I'm not sure he suits being so wide.  Commentator yesterday was saying that at previous clubs he'd had a more central role?   

[S-Clarke]

5 minutes ago, saint francis said:

I'm not sure he suits being so wide.  Commentator yesterday was saying that at previous clubs he'd had a more central role?   

He's primarily played from the left as far as I know. He played there for Sheff U last season. He played in tandem with McBurnie who held it and let him run beyond from wide to central. 

I guess we shouldn't expect much if we buy up the two strikers from the worst side the PL has seen in recent years.

[maysie]

Looks like a bit of a cart horse if I’m being totally honest. Hope he is just getting up to speed or we haven’t found the best way to use him yet.

[hypochondriac]

14 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

He's primarily played from the left as far as I know. He played there for Sheff U last season. He played in tandem with McBurnie who held it and let him run beyond from wide to central. 

I guess we shouldn't expect much if we buy up the two strikers from the worst side the PL has seen in recent years.

Shame we don't have any strikers with the ability to do that. 

[Football Special]

14 minutes ago, maysie said:

Looks like a bit of a cart horse if I’m being totally honest. Hope he is just getting up to speed or we haven’t found the best way to use him yet.

Will he be the one to be dropped for Cornet? 

[sfc4prem]

Let's put it this way, Liam Delap has had more impact in one game for Ipswich than BBD has had across 3 games for us.

[East Kent Saint]

Not enough games to make any scientific comparison 🙂

Give it half a season twat

[The Kraken]

48 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

He's primarily played from the left as far as I know. He played there for Sheff U last season. He played in tandem with McBurnie who held it and let him run beyond from wide to central. 

I guess we shouldn't expect much if we buy up the two strikers from the worst side the PL has seen in recent years.

Whoscored.com do match reports that show average player positions. I only looked at a random 5 or 6 but it looks like his earlier games were much like for us, him out wide left. Later games (in particular against Forest and Everton) he was much more central.

I think he looks well out of it playing on the left and would much prefer to see him bothering the opposition centre backs rather than the right back.

6 goals in 14 PL games says he’s got something about him. But he’s certainly not doing it for us so far.

[Toussaint]

I feel it’s really harsh to be critical of a new player playing in this completely dysfunctional team. 

[pingpong]

Has good touch and very good at the round the corner pass he tried a few times yesterday.  If we had a striker in the middle, they could get quite a bit of joy off of those.

Plus, he can hit the ball hard and at goal, which seems to be a rare trait for us, we just need to create more shooting opportunities for him.

[miserableoldgit]

36 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said:

Not enough games to make any scientific comparison 🙂

Give it half a season twat

Saw a "Worst EPL Team of the Week" thingy a week or so ago. Delap was in it....along with Will Smallbone....

[bpsaint]

BBD scored goals for a very crap Sheffield United side so he’s got no problem at this level, unfortunately it’s the tactics that are hampering him so far. It would be good to see him and Archer line up together as strikers not cutting in from the wing so we’ve got a presence up top.

[saintoaks]

Didn’t offer anything yesterday, would definitely try him down the middle. Get an actual winger on the pitch, I.e fraser or cornet and I’m sure he’ll score goals. 

[Saint_clark]

Looked dangerous before when getting beyond defences. We ask our attacking players to pick it up deep, pass it backwards and shuffle forwards a few yards. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

Looks like our new Elyounoussi to me. In the side because he’s disciplined off the ball, fills certain holes  and does exactly what the manager wants him to do. 
 

Get him down the middle or stick his arse on the bench. 

[Saint Billy]

One thing for sure is that he is going to be sent off more than once.

[spyinthesky]

I understand from my Blackburn Rovers mate that BBD is very much a confidence player.

He goes through spells of not scoring then seems to hit a purple patch.

Unfortunately not a regular goal scorer.

[qwertyell]

He and Armstrong aren't wingers at this level. They've not got the technical ability. They don't beat players. Running in behind is all they've got, and that's too basic for this league.

They might be effective as a strike partnership, with Brereton-Diaz being a bit more of a physical presence and Armstrong working off him, but I just can't see the point of either of them out wide in a slow possession team.

[derry]

Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Stick him up front if he plays. same with Archer. We need to settle on a system to accommodate the players, raise the tempo, cut out the tippy tappy and have a defensive back four.

[Dman]

Seen enough already. He's shite - Championship player. 

[Winnersaint]

9 minutes ago, Dman said:

Seen enough already. He's shite - Championship player. 

Agree.

[saintant]

2 hours ago, Dman said:

Seen enough already. He's shite - Championship player. 

Like most of our players I'm convinced he is suffering due to the RM play book.

[SambaMaverick]

He's one of the most techincally limited forwards we've had in a while, which is why it's madness to stick him out so far wide. If he was actually working the space between the full-back and centre-back, I could see the reasoning but he spends half his time dropping deep or wide to collect the ball.

[Whitey Grandad]

He’s a bulldozer of a player and we’re using him as a lawn trimmer.

[RedArmy]

Who sanctioned the signing of this cart horse? 
 

We’re playing with 10 men every week with this guy jogging about on the wing doing fuck all. 
 

Straight back to the championship in January you go. 

[Badger]

7 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

Who sanctioned the signing of this cart horse? 
 

We’re playing with 10 men every week with this guy jogging about on the wing doing fuck all. 
 

Straight back to the championship in January you go. 

So we can join him in May ? 

[Sheaf Saint]

I'm really not seeing the logic of playing him so wide when we have other obviously better options in that position. He doesn't appear to have any of the attributes you would expect from a winger, like pace or dribbling ability.

I want to believe he is actually a better player than we have seen from him so far, but he needs to be played in the right position to prove that, and LW ain't it.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

55 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I'm really not seeing the logic of playing him so wide when we have other obviously better options in that position. He doesn't appear to have any of the attributes you would expect from a winger, like pace or dribbling ability.

I want to believe he is actually a better player than we have seen from him so far, but he needs to be played in the right position to prove that, and LW ain't it.

Just watched all his Blackburn goals.

Lots of them from central positions, and a lot of them against defences that are dropping back. He can take it in from the right or left channel for a decent shot too. A few scrappy ones in there, which I don't mind at all from a goalscorer. Has a good header about him too. And penalty conversion.

So, to play him wide left while allowing every opponent to drop back and reset, offer no heading opportunities and not give him a penalty kick is utter madness.

Edited 14 September, 2024 by Holmes_and_Watson

[beatlesaint]

He’s the biggest disappointment so far for me. When we signed him I genuinely thought we had signed a player who knows where the back of the net is but apart from upsetting the Geordies he’s done fuck all.

[Lord Duckhunter]

He’s fucking pony. 

[Oldandtired]

…is not up to the required standard. That is all.

[Suhari]

Not impressed with him on the left. Maybe try him through the middle?

[LGTL]

He’s fucking terrible. 

[egg]

He's no winger that's for sure, but there's no excuses for the poor work rate. Pains me to say it, but I'd prefer Mara trotting around over there than him. 

Edited 14 September, 2024 by egg

[AlexLaw76]

4 minutes ago, egg said:

He's no winger that's for sure, but there's no excuses for the poor work rate. Pains me to say it, but I'd prefer Mara trotting around over there than him. 

Agree there. He offered very little in a defensive capacity. Fraser did the moment he came on

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, egg said:

He's no winger that's for sure, but there's no excuses for the poor work rate. Pains me to say it, but I'd prefer Mara trotting around over there than him. 

Not sure I’d go that far but appreciate what you are saying. Needs to be up front, use his physique. The work rate across a lot of the team after the first goal today was well below professional standards, and I mean even lower leagues and below. Dibling, KWP and Lesley excepted from that comment but that’s insufficient, all 10 outfield players have to be fully committed and organised doing their jobs. 

[egg]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

Agree there. He offered very little in a defensive capacity. Fraser did the moment he came on

Yep. Fraser is a trier that's for sure. I still think BBD may have something through the middle, and if he'd taken the pen as he should have done and scored, who knows how the match would have gone and what we'd be saying about him! 

[egg]

2 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Not sure I’d go that far but appreciate what you are saying. Needs to be up front, use his physique. The work rate across a lot of the team after the first goal today was well below professional standards, and I mean even lower leagues and below. Dibling, KWP and Lesley excepted from that comment but that’s insufficient, all 10 outfield players have to be fully committed and organised doing their jobs. 

Yep, and I'm concerned about the lack of work rate across the board. If the players are properly managed, motivated and committed to the cause, we wouldn't be seeing that.