The new goalkeeper will be ....

[Kristian Loekkegaard]

14 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

He already does see it that way.

AM is the backup to Baz. Get used to it, once Baz is fixed he'll be pre-populated on the team sheet again.

Ok but I think we will sign a new first keeper before the window shuts down. 

[6ft8saint]

My football knowledge is pretty small in comparison to some others on here, however my son plays under 8s and is a fairly decent goalkeeper and therefore his team feel more confident with him between the post and often play better and more confident with strength at the back. Often relaxing to score more. I don't think I have seen it that way for a while with us. A new keeper would be great even if just a loan for the season. Who I'm not sure ramsdale would be excellent 

[6ft8saint]

Is de gea still a free agent? 

[david in sweden]

Back to .the subject again..

Yes... Lis is returning to Turkey, and although it was good to see him - even for the pre-season in England ... he doesn't seem to be any

sort of "upgrade" on our existing goalies.   IF..  the Turkish top tier has the sort of disparity with their second league that we see in England,

then Göztepe may struggle for survival and we can really see what sort of quality he has as a potential Prem. custodian for the future. 

 

Although Saints have been paying AM a very large salary to sit on the bench for the last 2 seasons, we must admit he DAJFU in the play-offs 

and re-signing him was a wise move, but is he capable of being the required standard for even half of the season?..  A bad start might see us 

in the drop-zone already before Christmas with no satisfactory replacement .... and what happens if  he gets injured.?. 

Many subscribers (above), seem to think that AM will be our automatic choice until then, and Bazunu will "magically " be back in the New Year  

but no-one knows if Bazunu will be " good enough to return " by then,  and how fit he ..may / may not ...be. 

 

Goalkeeping is the most specialised role in the team.  Throwing yourself at the feet of advancing strikers, or leaping around like a trapeze artist

or leaping to punch / catch incoming shots... Agility is key, and in today's game also the ability to play out from the back with your feet.

(Oh for the days of Antti Niemi, who was almost on a par with Peter Shilton IMHO).

 A few practice games with U21's may give us a clue how good GB may be in anticipating his return to Prem. level football, but the U21's 

have  no league fixtures planned between the end of November and the second week of January. 

 

As I  wrote in my opening post, we need a top rate keeper with international experience, not "a desperate loan" taken from someone else's bench.

Whilst "the Downes' and O'Riley's" may command big fees... without a top class keeper the whole enterprise is doomed from Day 1. in this league.

 

 

[SaintsBarry74]

On 03/08/2024 at 17:34, Disco Stu said:

McCarthy is considerably better at collecting crosses. And lets not downplay shot-stopping, the single most important attribute for a goalkeeper. Neither are at the required level but McCarthy is better at the fundementals.

I completely agree with you. Shot-stopping is the most basic attribute of goalkeeping. If we have a player with the shot-stopping proficiency of a Sunday league player, it doesn't matter if he's like Messi when on the ball.

I think the club has handled our outfield signings quite well, but it's puzzling why we can't seem to get our goalkeeping situation right, it's been like this for years. McCarthy haven't seemed right since he let those 9 goals in against Man Utd. Same could be said for Angus Gunn.

[chiknsmack]

On 04/08/2024 at 19:51, david in sweden said:

Although Saints have been paying AM a very large salary to sit on the bench for the last 2 seasons, we must admit he DAJFU in the play-offs 

and re-signing him was a wise move, but is he capable of being the required standard for even half of the season?

 

Re-signing him was a wise move, but we don't know if he's capable of being good enough to fill in for 6-12 months? Those things can't both be true.

The wise move would've been letting him go and bringing in someone who is definitely good enough to fill in, especially as the club are apparently sticking with Bazunu once he's fit so we don't need to find the money to buy anyone but instead just get a loan in. And ESPECIALLY since, as you rightly say, without a top class keeper the whole enterprise is doomed from Day 1.

[Galway saint]

7 hours ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

I completely agree with you. Shot-stopping is the most basic attribute of goalkeeping. If we have a player with the shot-stopping proficiency of a Sunday league player, it doesn't matter if he's like Messi when on the ball.

I think the club has handled our outfield signings quite well, but it's puzzling why we can't seem to get our goalkeeping situation right, it's been like this for years. McCarthy haven't seemed right since he let those 9 goals in against Man Utd. Same could be said for Angus Gunn.

goalkeeper and CF remain as big an issue as they were a couple of years ago. let’s hope they can be addressed before the end of the window.

think the transfer business elsewhere has been solid enough to date 

[Professor]

I suspect that Dean Thornton (the goalkeeping Coach) will already have had some serious discussions with AM about Saturday's error.  Immediately looking for a replacement GK would be a knee-jerk reaction, although having said that, if Lis has gone back on loan, it seems unlikely we will go into the season with just two first team keepers . 

[SaintJackoInHurworth]

So, where are Saints up to in terms of signing a keeper? We seem to have been linked with at least four candidates in the past couple of weeks and several others before that:

• Aaron Ramsdale - www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24450616.southampton-reportedly-weighing-up-move-aaron-ramsdale
• Sam Johnstone - www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24500418.southampton-reportedly-interested-crystal-palaces-sam-johnstone
• Vladyslav Krapyvtsov - www.footballfancast.com/southampton-ready-to-offer-contract-vladyslav-krapyvtsov-ahead-of-chelsea
• Jason Steele - www.givemesport.com/southampton-interested-in-brighton-goalkeeper-jason-steele

Are we linked with anyone else? Is anything going to come of any of these links? Let's hope so!

[S-Clarke]

Not sure what's funnier with regards to that Krapyvstov link.

1) He's called Krapy

2) It's another kid who hasn't played football professionally.

3) Chelsea are linked and they already have 200000 keepers.

Edited 21 August, 2024 by S-Clarke

[david in sweden]

latest name in the hat is : Justin Bijlow.  26 y.o. goalie with Feyenoord . Sometime international for Holland .

He will cost  a bit, but as we seem to be on a spending spree......who cares ?

[Saint Martini]

I hope we stay far away from Bijlow. I've seen perhaps 10 matches with him over the past few seasons and I've never understood why people thought he's any good. He makes a few good saves but he's not that commanding in the air and a bit error-prone. He's had an extensive list of injuries (especially for a goalkeeper) and I don't think he's that good with the ball at his feet either. If we're looking at goalkeepers in Holland that lost their starting spot we should rather be looking att Ramaj at Ajax.

 

[Nordic Saint]

1 hour ago, Saint Martini said:

I hope we stay far away from Bijlow. I've seen perhaps 10 matches with him over the past few seasons and I've never understood why people thought he's any good. He makes a few good saves but he's not that commanding in the air and a bit error-prone. He's had an extensive list of injuries (especially for a goalkeeper) and I don't think he's that good with the ball at his feet either. If we're looking at goalkeepers in Holland that lost their starting spot we should rather be looking att Ramaj at Ajax.

The poor bloke is going to risk ending up in a wheelchair if he carries on trying to play football. The long-term effects of all those injuries must already severely limit what he can do. It will be a miracle if he manages to limp out on to the pitch for even a handful of games.

Season..Days..Injuries..Games missed
23/24.. 121 days.. 2.. 27
22/23.. 68 days.. 1.. 16
21/22.. 108 days.. 5.. 27
20/21.. 144 days.. 6.. 34
19/20.. 35 days.. 2.. 20
18/19.. 228 days.. 2.. 65

Edited 21 August, 2024 by Nordic Saint

[david in sweden]

1 hour ago, Saint Martini said:

I hope we stay far away from Bijlow. I've seen perhaps 10 matches with him over the past few seasons and I've never understood why people thought he's any good. He makes a few good saves but he's not that commanding in the air and a bit error-prone. He's had an extensive list of injuries (especially for a goalkeeper) and I don't think he's that good with the ball at his feet either. If we're looking at goalkeepers in Holland that lost their starting spot we should rather be looking att Ramaj at Ajax.

 

well I won't argue that point as you may be the only person on this site who has seen him play, but I have also noted that (according to reports) both 

Man Utd and Liverpool had been scouting him so he can't be so bad, and in all honesty I'd look at any player who they had gone out of their way to review.

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, Saint Martini said:

I hope we stay far away from Bijlow. I've seen perhaps 10 matches with him over the past few seasons and I've never understood why people thought he's any good. He makes a few good saves but he's not that commanding in the air and a bit error-prone. He's had an extensive list of injuries (especially for a goalkeeper) and I don't think he's that good with the ball at his feet either. If we're looking at goalkeepers in Holland that lost their starting spot we should rather be looking att Ramaj at Ajax.

 

You've obviously watched him so it's not that I disbelieve you, but saying "he's not that good with the ball at his feet" is contradicted by all the posts from fans, news articles about him and all the stats that I've seen. 

[Dellyears]

23 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

The poor bloke is going to end up in a wheelchair if he risks playing football again. The twice broken wrist, rib, groin, thigh, knee, calf and foot injuries etc must already severely limit what he can do. It will be a miracle if he manages to limp out on to the pitch for even a handful of games.

Fewer injuries in the last couple of years

 

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

You've obviously watched him so it's not that I disbelieve you, but saying "he's not that good with the ball at his feet" is contradicted by all the posts from fans, news articles about him and all the stats that I've seen. 

He must be a top rate goaly or he wouldn't have been selected by a series of managers (inc Koeman) for the national team. Its the injuries that worry me.

[Saint Martini]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

You've obviously watched him so it's not that I disbelieve you, but saying "he's not that good with the ball at his feet" is contradicted by all the posts from fans, news articles about him and all the stats that I've seen. 

It's all relative I guess. Pretty much every goalkeeper in the Netherlands is going to be okay with the ball at his feet I just wouldn't consider it a strength (a big improvement on McCarthy but that's pretty much a given).

He's always had a reputation as a big talent in the Netherlands, made his debut at Feyenoord at a young age and also for the national team. Whenever I've seen him play I've never understood the fuss. I think him losing his spot to Wellenreuther at Feyenoord and the amount of different goalies the Netherlands have tested since he made his debut are quite telling.

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, Saint Martini said:

It's all relative I guess. Pretty much every goalkeeper in the Netherlands is going to be okay with the ball at his feet I just wouldn't consider it a strength (a big improvement on McCarthy but that's pretty much a given).

He's always had a reputation as a big talent in the Netherlands, made his debut at Feyenoord at a young age and also for the national team. Whenever I've seen him play I've never understood the fuss. I think him losing his spot to Wellenreuther at Feyenoord and the amount of different goalies the Netherlands have tested since he made his debut are quite telling.

Isn't that more to do with his injuries though rather than his form? That's what other people seemed to be saying. At any rate he seems like an upgrade on McCarthy even if he has some faults. 

[Saint Martini]

55 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Isn't that more to do with his injuries though rather than his form? That's what other people seemed to be saying. At any rate he seems like an upgrade on McCarthy even if he has some faults. 

He was fit at the World Cup in 2022 and van Gaal chose to play Noppert who made his debut at the first World Cup game. He's fit right now and the new coach picks Wellenreuther. Sometimes its been injuries but  it's definitely not just that.

[Pierre2]

Who's to say he Wellenreuter didn't keep his spot because they new a transfer was imminent. For what it's worth I think he's a very good goalie: good with his feet, commands the area and a good shot stopper, but the injury record is a worry

Edited 21 August, 2024 by Pierre2

[Galway saint]

3 hours ago, Dellyears said:

Fewer injuries in the last couple of years

 

He must be a top rate goaly or he wouldn't have been selected by a series of managers (inc Koeman) for the national team. Its the injuries that worry me.

bazanu is irelands no 1 so that tells you little

 

[Miltonaggro]

10 hours ago, Galway saint said:

bazanu is irelands no 1 so that tells you little

 

Netherlands ranked 7th in World, Republic of Ireland 58th, so reasonable chance Bijlow would be an improvement. 

[Dellyears]

11 hours ago, Pierre2 said:

Who's to say he Wellenreuter didn't keep his spot because they new a transfer was imminent. For what it's worth I think he's a very good goalie: good with his feet, commands the area and a good shot stopper, but the injury record is a worry

After breaking a wrist twice, has he still got good hands. Never mind, he's got good feet that's what matters these days

[Thereisonlyonemickychannon]

Bijlow hopefully 😃

[Thereisonlyonemickychannon]

Bijlow hopefully 😃

[Thereisonlyonemickychannon]

Bijlow hopefully 😃

[Holmes_and_Watson]

10 minutes ago, Thereisonlyonemickychannon said:

Bijlow hopefully 😃

 

10 minutes ago, Thereisonlyonemickychannon said:

Bijlow hopefully 😃

 

10 minutes ago, Thereisonlyonemickychannon said:

Bijlow hopefully 😃

By 1000 votes to none, the club are proud to announce the FansVoice signing of Bijlow to the club. A landslide vote. We'd like to welcome our voter to the stage...🙂

[Saint Fan CaM]

Billow doesn’t fill me with much more confidence than McCarthy to be honest. If he didn’t have such a poor fitness/injury record it would be a different matter. Think I’d prefer Steele, but that’s not saying much!

[M271]

5 hours ago, Dellyears said:

After breaking a wrist twice, has he still got good hands. Never mind, he's got good feet that's what matters these days

[It's There]

Ramsdale maybe..sky sports say we’re in for him

[bpsaint]

3 hours ago, It's There said:

Ramsdale maybe..sky sports say we’re in for him

I really hope this is true

[6ft8saint]

I think it)'ll be Jack Stephens he shit in all other positions so why no let him try in goal

[Dellyears]

31 minutes ago, 6ft8saint said:

I think it)'ll be Jack Stephens he shit in all other positions so why no let him try in goal

Why this bitterness from our own fans against one of our own and our captain? Bit sick.

[Hayling Saint]

1 hour ago, Dellyears said:

Why this bitterness from our own fans against one of our own and our captain? Bit sick.

Totally agree with this.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Just seen Sky Sports saying we’re in for a loan deal deal for Ramsdale - fingers crossed they get this across the line.

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

Reading the Arsenal forums, they're not exactly going to be disappointed to see him go. Panicky with the ball at his feet and costly errors seem to be the main theme of the comments. I know they probably have higher standards than Saints fans, but has that familiar Saints goalkeeping feeling....go to be better than current options though (surely?!?!).

[david in sweden]

We won't be signing Bijlow.. . .(and so Saints Martini got it right)  so now it's  ....back to square one.   

Ironically the phrase was first used almost 100 years ago by a radio commentator describing the passage of play for his listeners, 

and " back to square one"  meant...... a pass back to the goalkeeper. ugh !

 

How I wish we could turn the clock back to June, after McCarthy had left the club after being out of contract.

But now it suddenly seems like we have made no progress at all, in what is surely the most important role in the team.

 

In the last few days of the " window " ...we are still back with McCarthy..... and a totally untried Joe Lumley (!)

Saints will surely find " someone" before Friday, but the whole issue has become very ominous and very poorly planned. 

 

Edited 27 August, 2024 by david in sweden

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

With Wolves out the picture, this is a chance to (re)negotiate with Arsenal for Ramsdale.

I'm presuming our scouting team have got a Plan C and D, but in all fairness, last Saturday's game showed that AMc can do a job should all other options fail. I'd like to see Lumley in against Cardiff because there's every chance he could be our back-up and he needs match practice.

[Nordic Saint]

The former Dutch goalkeeper failed his medical. They tried their best to get him through it, but the poor bloke was falling apart. Even his wheelchair had one wheel hanging off it so they couldn't get him up the ramp.