whelk Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Nice to see that officially recognised that Tories broke Special Educational Needs. Although very depressing for the poor parents and kids suffering. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 16 minutes ago, whelk said: Nice to see that officially recognised that Tories broke Special Educational Needs. Although very depressing for the poor parents and kids suffering. There's a Conservative thread to discuss that just down the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Well done Labour, very sensible. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/oct/24/disposable-vapes-ban-england-next-june-labour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: There's a Conservative thread to discuss that just down the page. You could have put your personal mortgage worries in the cost of living thread. Althougb Labour need to fix SEN and councils 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, whelk said: Nice to see that officially recognised that Tories broke Special Educational Needs. Although very depressing for the poor parents and kids suffering. Further evidence of the reverse in social mobility over the past decade https://www.theguardian.com/education/2024/oct/24/first-fall-disadvantaged-students-university-england Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 44 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Well done Labour, very sensible. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/oct/24/disposable-vapes-ban-england-next-june-labour I expect this would have been done whoever was in power but you can't really argue with that at all. Glad it's happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I expect this would have been done whoever was in power but you can't really argue with that at all. Glad it's happening. It may have, it may not. The Tories brought in a tobacco and vapes bill in 2024 and it didn’t go this far, it said there would be more on the spot fines for retailers selling to the underage but no general ban. There was talk of bulking it up but it never progressed as we edged towards election. Good policy this one IMO, goes to tackling underage smoking/vaping and also address the ridiculous concept of 5 millions e-cigs going in the bin every week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, whelk said: Nice to see that officially recognised that Tories broke Special Educational Needs. Although very depressing for the poor parents and kids suffering. SEND tribunal appeals launced are up thousands year on year. Appeal success rates are sky high as the original decision was wrong, although local authorities to be fair are skint. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, egg said: SEND tribunal appeals launced are up thousands year on year. Appeal success rates are sky high as the original decision was wrong, although local authorities to be fair are skint. Not good. That is true but it is also the case that many experienced SEND applicants know what to write on applications to get it through. Effectively they are competing with each other for the pot of money and it incentivises exagerrations on the application to get further ahead in the queue. It is true that more support is needed though. Edited October 24 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 12 hours ago, whelk said: I don’t equate banning disposal vapes with the stupid idea of banning smoking in pub gardens. Vaping is for cunts Looks like this man is for turning. If accurate, not sure it's the best way to govern the country but in fairness I'd rather they junked stupid ideas whatever the reason for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 All British governments have been floating ideas in the media then acting upon the feedback for decades. The clever bit is not doing it with major policies, a change of direction on big things looks weak, listening to people on dull issues is sensible, and always has been. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Uh-oh. Another 'definition' argument incoming. Oh joy, because the last one about women was such great fun. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgqy8v7ze0ko Quote Sir Keir Starmer has attempted to define who "working people" are, amid renewed scrutiny of his tax plans ahead of next week's Budget. Labour promised at the general election not to increase taxes on working people - but the party did not define what it meant by that term. The government is looking at possible tax increases on the sale of assets, such as shares and property, a freeze on income tax thresholds and changes to inheritance tax. The prime minister insists working people will not be hit by these changes - but he has struggled to offer a clear definition of what counts as a working person in the government's eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 23 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Uh-oh. Another 'definition' argument incoming. Oh joy, because the last one about women was such great fun. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgqy8v7ze0ko As brainbox Kemi has taught us, despite any background one can become working class if they work part time in McDonalds for a summer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 A bad time for me to have asked what a socialist working class woman was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 2 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: A bad time for me to have asked what a socialist working class woman was. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 I notice this morning I saw that Reeves was going for another £20Bn tax hike on top 'for the NHS' what a load of bollox and if you lot believe that!! Just the usual cover the tax with the NHS that people cant argue with. You could spend 20bn extra a day and it wont get better. It needs knocking down and starting again, so we can get the money spent correctly. I love the NHS but when I see the staff standing around by the nurse station doing nothing at the General it is hard to feel it is not efficient. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 On 26/10/2024 at 11:05, OldNick said: I notice this morning I saw that Reeves was going for another £20Bn tax hike on top 'for the NHS' what a load of bollox and if you lot believe that!! Just the usual cover the tax with the NHS that people cant argue with. You could spend 20bn extra a day and it wont get better. It needs knocking down and starting again, so we can get the money spent correctly. I love the NHS but when I see the staff standing around by the nurse station doing nothing at the General it is hard to feel it is not efficient. The NHS needs reform for sure - but it needs to sensible and progressive - you won't fix it in one foul sweep. In my opinion it needs a full process evaluation, issue identification and root cause analysis done to identify where money can be best saved - this is both system and process improvement. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 On 26/10/2024 at 11:05, OldNick said: I notice this morning I saw that Reeves was going for another £20Bn tax hike on top 'for the NHS' what a load of bollox and if you lot believe that!! Just the usual cover the tax with the NHS that people cant argue with. You could spend 20bn extra a day and it wont get better. It needs knocking down and starting again, so we can get the money spent correctly. I love the NHS but when I see the staff standing around by the nurse station doing nothing at the General it is hard to feel it is not efficient. It’s going to need both reform and a lot more money, with the aging population as it is. Reform takes time so it makes sense to increase the funding to try and clear the backlog the Tories left us with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 2 minutes ago, aintforever said: It’s going to need both reform and a lot more money, with the aging population as it is. Reform takes time so it makes sense to increase the funding to try and clear the backlog the Tories left us with. You mean what Covid left us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 (edited) 20 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: You mean what Covid left us? Covid caused a lot of the issues obviously. Edited October 27 by aintforever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 I see they’re now using the New Labour/ Prescott playbook and started punching constituents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I see they’re now using the New Labour/ Prescott playbook and started punching constituents. Got to be looking at a stretch inside for that I reckon, pretty unprovoked and hit the geezer a few times when he was on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 6 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Got to be looking at a stretch inside for that I reckon, pretty unprovoked and hit the geezer a few times when he was on the floor. I wonder if it will be fast tracked? Presumably he's going to plead guilty, what with him being such an honest man (as well as the video footage available!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Suspended now pending police investigation - quick reaction - well done Labour. No nonsense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 32 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Got to be looking at a stretch inside for that I reckon, pretty unprovoked and hit the geezer a few times when he was on the floor. You never know what the bloke said to provoke him. He might have taunted him about employer’s NI contributions going up and the betrayal if the working man 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 48 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Suspended now pending police investigation - quick reaction - well done Labour. No nonsense. Not really. The first video of him staggering around pissed up stating “you won’t threaten me again” emerged yesterday morning. There’s absolutely no doubt every single party in the country would have done exactly the same once the CCTV emerged. So it wasn’t particularly quick. Let’s see how his violent disorder is dealt with… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 3 hours ago, whelk said: You never know what the bloke said to provoke him. He might have taunted him about employer’s NI contributions going up and the betrayal if the working man OK that was amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Excitement on the way in the Romney Marsh area https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c704eedkqkvo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted October 28 Author Share Posted October 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said: Excitement on the way in the Romney Marsh area https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c704eedkqkvo No doubt there will a few holding a candlelit vigil for our hero tonight and Batman will be on soon complaining about a two tier legal system. Edited October 28 by sadoldgit Added text 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 https://x.com/alfies2001/status/1850810382958354570?s=46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: https://x.com/alfies2001/status/1850810382958354570?s=46 What a shit punch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 1 hour ago, sadoldgit said: No doubt there will a few holding a candlelit vigil for our hero tonight and Batman will be on soon complaining about a two tier legal system. You might want to approach him to be your pen pal. Might help with your obsession 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 On 27/10/2024 at 18:26, whelk said: You never know what the bloke said to provoke him. He might have taunted him about employer’s NI contributions going up and the betrayal if the working man Close! Apparently the 'argument' was over winter fuel payments and the closure of a local bridge. Dangerous times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Does the creation of an "Office for Value For Money" actually provide VFM ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) An adults budget being presented by an adult from the adults party Edited October 30 by tdmickey3 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Very promising so far and Reeves very credible. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 PMQs was refreshingly cordial as well. Imagine what we could achieve if they weren’t trying to tear each other apart but actually working together 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 minute ago, whelk said: Very promising so far and Reeves very credible. Agreed, although the employers NI will sting and probably lead to job losses. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 All seems sensible so far, hopefully it doesn’t affect the drop in inflation too badly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, egg said: Agreed, although the employers NI will sting and probably lead to job losses. They have made other adjustments to help with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Just now, tdmickey3 said: They have made other adjustments to help with this Only relevant to employers employing max 4 people at minimum wage. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 The Tories look crest fallen. Exposure of incompetence is painful 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 9 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: The Tories look crest fallen. Exposure of incompetence is painful Meanwhile at the Daily Mail they are now desperately working on how to spin how the Marxists are crashing the economy and we are all doomed. Well as a Daily Mail reader you are already pretty fucked. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 And now the Tory response blustering begins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) The NI employers increase is the biggest risk - not just to slightly bigger SMEs and larger firms, but also charities and universities. The extra cost for the latter will be £100m alone and will lead to further job losses in that sector. That said, Reeves was left an appalling situation, unacceptable, and indefensible, by a party that used to have a reputation for economic competence which was trashed by first Boris and then for generations by Liz Truss. Finally, as a Remainer, today’s situation wasn’t inevitable but Boris, Farage, Banks and Putin didn’t tell you this was the reality of losing several % of GDP through nearly the hardest possible Brexit. Worst of all, it has actually made taking back control of the UK’s borders harder, not easier. Edited October 30 by Gloucester Saint 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted October 30 Author Share Posted October 30 3 hours ago, tdmickey3 said: And now the Tory response blustering begins They seem oblivious to the fact that we are in this mess because of 14 years of their mismanagement. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Lots of positive reactions on here to the budget with what will be the highest tax burden in UK history. I'll be interested to see if this spurs economic growth as ultimately that will imo decide if Labour wins the next election or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 32 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: They seem oblivious to the fact that we are in this mess because of 14 years of their mismanagement. Weren't the Tories handed the worst economy in generations by Labour in 2010? Both so wedded to neoliberal economics the corporate dominated boom/bust cycle continues. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Everyone wants everything but no one wants to pay for it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) 38 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Everyone wants everything but no one wants to pay for it Ain't that the truth. What we've had today though is refreshing honesty, and a clear explanation that we couldn't afford what we were doing. That said, the budget doesn't really increase the cost to the average punter so in reality they are getting something for nothing. I was dreading armageddon today, and although a massively increased NI bill for my staff isn't ideal, I'm relieved and actually rather pleased with it. Edited October 30 by egg Shit typing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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