Gloucester Saint Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 20 hours ago, suewhistle said: She doesn't like LGBTetc, mothers, civil servants, foreigners, anybody who is at all diverse, autistic etc. Who _is_ she appealing to? I forgot about the civil service quote which she tried to backtrack on https://news.sky.com/story/badenoch-joking-over-claim-10-of-civil-servants-should-be-in-prison-13226045 Sometimes, she can speak sense but it gets drowned out by culture war garbage like that, the autism comments and maternity pay. I don’t think there’s much of a filter nor any intention of developing one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted October 29 Author Share Posted October 29 If it is as easy as Honest Bob makes out, why did his own Party make such a pig’s ear of it? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8dmq88j6rro.amp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Cue whichever bullshitter the tories get as leader telling us.... "I will make everything better and you will all have everything and not have to pay for it" This is true of course... well only for their rich pals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Both sets of comments about Southport were a disgrace - the Speaker had to remind them to rein it in. Neither of them will make a PM as long as they have a hole in their arse. Keeping the seat lukewarm for a serious candidate like Andy Street if he wins a seat later in this Parliament. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Jenrick stinks of desperation, and he's rocking a haircut that people give their six-year-olds when they've combating headlice. As for Andy Street, for me his judgement came into question when he shacked up with Michael Fabricant, surely there are hotter and less-mad guys in the West Midlands? Not sure the Tory membership can really imagine a day when that happy couple stand on the steps of no.10 holding hands and waving to the cameras, however good a job he's done as a mayor. But if Street hooked up with Boris.....that would be a Tory (wet) dream team. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 Kemi it is then. This is going to be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Kemi it is then. This is going to be interesting. All I can say is better than the other fucker but she looks incredibly limited so far lacking the charisma and skills required for leadership. Edited November 2 by whelk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 Bad Enoch already re-rolling out the “Labour have no plan” bandwagon. They really have learnt nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 She should do OK. If you look at the people she's alienated, it's only pregnant mothers, transgender people, autistic people, civil servants, and immigrants - not exactly tory target voters. There's still plenty of voters to win over and you can see from the hysterical reaction to the budget that there is a great appetite to swing the needle in that direction. Can see her staying around for at least the next election and doing quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 2 Author Share Posted November 2 (edited) I almost feel sorry for them. Not much of a choice and either one, hopefully, would ensure that the Tory Party remain sidelined for years to come. The fight with Farage to see who can win the most unpleasant party leader will probably be more interning than her fight with Starmer. Now that Sunak has departed perhaps Starmer will stop referring to the Leader of the Opposition as “Prime Minister” at PMQ’s? Apparently she beat Jenrick by more than 10,000 votes which only goes to show how unpopular amongst the membership he is! Edited November 2 by sadoldgit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 The Conservatives droning on about race is one reason why they haven't really learnt anything. Having a black leader in itself is not a good thing because she has a different shade of skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 2 Author Share Posted November 2 21 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: The Conservatives droning on about race is one reason why they haven't really learnt anything. Having a black leader in itself is not a good thing because she has a different shade of skin. Didn’t you say that the membership wouldn’t vote for her due to the colour of her skin a while back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 Honest Bob’s wife is like a caricature of a Tory. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 31 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Didn’t you say that the membership wouldn’t vote for her due to the colour of her skin a while back? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 Absolutely pathetic from the tories calling Starmer pale male and stale. There's loads of legitimate criticisms of Starmer. Being male and white are not it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 49 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Honest Bob’s wife is like a caricature of a Tory. TBH she looks like his mum 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 2 hours ago, whelk said: All I can say is better than the other fucker but she looks incredibly limited so far lacking the charisma and skills required for leadership. Jenrick was the one I heard with policies, while she seemed to have a bit of handwaving, continuing attacks on some topics, and fluffy things about change from previous errors. She's going to need to attract more than the reform side to stand a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 (edited) Wrong thread! Edited November 2 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 On 12/07/2024 at 14:53, sadoldgit said: Remind us again, just how many black people have been selected to lead the Tory Party? One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Has anyone seen the Daily Tory sorry Mail`s front page this morning..... 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 34 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Has anyone seen the Daily Tory sorry Mail`s front page this morning..... 🤣 How much of an impact did Ozempic have? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 How far can I expect to be moved by the King's story, will it incur more capital gains tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 2 hours ago, tdmickey3 said: Has anyone seen the Daily Tory sorry Mail`s front page this morning..... 🤣 I thought it was a very nice thing for the Mail to say about Starmer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Kemi Badenoch following in the footsteps of William Hague, Iain Duncan-Smith, and Michael Howard, leading the Tories through the wilderness years of opposition. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Laura Trott - a woman who literally cannot count, who can't grasp percentages, and relies on everyone else being thicker than she is? She's so easily-confused you wouldn't trust her to wear her shoes on the correct feet, if she went to the Olympics she'd get on the bike facing the wrong fucking way. Appointing her and the business partner of Rees-Mogg while defending partygate and claiming that Boris did a great job right up until the point that he protected a sex offender, is this really Badenoch's plan for power? This could be funnier than Truss. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Caught a bit of Politics Live today and had some no mark Tory with whingy nasally voice declaring we could cut taxes with no impact to public services…..wait for it……by introducing efficiencies. Wow after all this time no one has thought of this. Honestly these fuckers need to wake up and all coming from his point of view that the public need honesty from politicians. Basically no different to Truss. although also had a guy from ConservativeHome on and he was actually speaking sense. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Chris Mason turns the knife on Badenoch - has to be her and/or Jenryck that’s leaked parts of that. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy1vg400k5o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 5 Author Share Posted November 5 (edited) What on earth is Patel doing back at the Foreign Office (shadow)? I know that there is a much smaller and, in terms of talent, greatly depleted pool to fish in, but really? For all of his talk about uniting the party I can see Jenrick and his dented ego being a constant irritant for Badenoch. Trott, just why? How far have the Conservative Party sunk? Edited November 5 by sadoldgit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 32 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: What on earth is Patel doing back at the Foreign Office (shadow)? They probably wanted an “immigrant” in the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgv7pj4vd2o Chris Philp appointed shadow home sec 🤣really cleaning house there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 (edited) 23 minutes ago, The Kraken said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgv7pj4vd2o Chris Philp appointed shadow home sec 🤣really cleaning house there. What you get when you purge alternative viewpoint and alienate the sensible. Tories are complete mess with gaping lack of talent. Can’t think of anyone who could be described as an elder or heavyweight who can impart their wisdom. Just full of vacuous lightweights who will be trotting out Reform type lines. Whilst there won’t be much love for Labour it is damning on our politics that the alternative will have so little appeal. Edited November 5 by whelk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 4 minutes ago, whelk said: What you get when you purge alternative viewpoint and alienate the sensible. Tories are complete mess with gaping lack of talent. Can’t think of anyone who could be described as an elder or heavyweight who can impart their wisdom. Just full of vacuous lightweights who will be trotting out Reform type lines. Whilst there won’t be much love for Labour it is damning on our politics that the alternative will have so little appeal. TBF there's sort of some strategy in what they're doing (I'm not saying it's good strategy, mind). The likes of Mel Stride, Chris Philp, Laura Trott etc will just parrot out whatever nonsense they're asked to. Kemi is likely to come out with some utterly divisive shite in the next few months so having a bunch of underlings ready and willing to go on TV and defend it will probably seem quite useful to them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 I owe Laura Trott an apology, I considered her a thick weak link, and then Chris Philp and Mark Francois stepped into the ring causing a significant decline in the IQ average. Kemi has assembled, by some distance, the least talented shadow cabinet in political history, which should offer some fantastic comedy value over the next year or two. It's like the worst hand of political Top Trumps you could imagine. As EMF famously said, you're unelectable. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mark-francois-racial-slur-japan-kemi-badenoch-b2641881.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 6 Author Share Posted November 6 I listened to PMQs today and thought that Starmer played a blinder against Badenoch. Granted, it is her first time but if she doesn’t change her approach she will continue to come across as a 6th form debater. I met some friends for lunch and walked in on the conversation to hear one of them say how good it was to hear someone stick it to Starmer and how well she thought Badenoch had performed. The person she was talking to thought the exact opposite and, like me, thought that Starmer had made her look poor and exposed her inexperience. Not only did she get her facts wrong, she also accused Starmer of script reading, some that he pointed out that she was doing herself. She also accused him of not reading his own Budget but made a gaff that showed that she hadn’t read it properly herself. Little wonder that the country/world is so polarised if you can come away with such a different viewpoint having heard exactly the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, sadoldgit said: I met some friends for lunch and walked in on the conversation to hear one of them say how good it was to hear someone stick it to Starmer and how well she thought Badenoch had performed. The person she was talking to thought the exact opposite and, like me, thought that Starmer had made her look poor and exposed her inexperience. Jesus wept. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Walter fucking at it again 😂😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: Jesus wept. A leftie, a moderate and a far right Nazi walk into a Maidstone pub…………… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 hours ago, whelk said: A leftie, a moderate and a far right Nazi walk into a Maidstone pub…………… Is this three different people or just Nigel Farage? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 7 Author Share Posted November 7 John Crace nails it again. https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/nov/06/hypocrisy-student-politics-and-scoring-cheap-points-kemikaze-gets-to-work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 12 Author Share Posted November 12 Another illuminating Kemi article. https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/nov/11/post-office-inquiry-kemikaze-kemi-badenoch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 On 07/11/2024 at 09:57, sadoldgit said: John Crace nails it again. https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/nov/06/hypocrisy-student-politics-and-scoring-cheap-points-kemikaze-gets-to-work 22 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Another illuminating Kemi article. https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/nov/11/post-office-inquiry-kemikaze-kemi-badenoch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 Kemi was a fucking car crash today - not listening, not thinking, tripping up over her words, flip flopping between topics. She would struggle against my daughter's school debating team. Lettuce part 2... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 If she had any sense she would get some proper professional advice on how to approach PMQs. Sadly for her she is far too arrogant and thinks that she knows best. https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/tory-gloom-as-gaffe-prone-kemi-badenoch-endures-another-miserable-pmqs_uk_6734bd2ae4b0958bad3dc4e5/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 The Tories think that they have found another Mrs T. They think it is Mrs Thatcher instead it is Truss. 😁 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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