sadoldgit Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 15 hours ago, a1ex2001 said: Why is 'woke' used as some sort of insult? seems a pretty sensible thing to be to me if you want to be leader of a political party or nation! 'aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues especially of racial and social injustice.' Because the people who use the word pejoratively are anything but so need to kick back. As one major social commentator said recently, “better to be woke than be an arsehole.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Whoever it is, they will need to avoid getting rinsed like this 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I genuinely think there’s something wrong with Atkins, she’s an absolute lunatic who can’t keep her emotions in check. She screeches her head off whilst she’s supposed to be listening to the answer to her question. She got warned previously for doing even worse and making herself look like a complete fucking twat but she doesn’t seem to have taken any of it on board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 (edited) 26 minutes ago, The Kraken said: I genuinely think there’s something wrong with Atkins, she’s an absolute lunatic who can’t keep her emotions in check. She screeches her head off whilst she’s supposed to be listening to the answer to her question. She got warned previously for doing even worse and making herself look like a complete fucking twat but she doesn’t seem to have taken any of it on board. Really basic error to have a go at one of the Chambers’ best orators for lack of experience - when he’s been shadowing health for 2.5 years and the Clown Car brigade had 5 Health Ministers in that time. She metaphorically watched the pie of a cricket ball she bowled disappear back over her head into the stand with a thud. Although Streeting really took her to the cleaners today apparently on the debate about the Darzi report. What a fucking legacy to leave https://news.sky.com/story/darzai-review-key-points-from-damning-new-report-into-state-of-nhs-13213159 Edited September 12 by Gloucester Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I love the way they grandly call it a leadership race to - a. Glam it up b. Pretend they're still relevant. c. Add in fake urgency to make it exciting. In reality this vote is nothing more than a little sideshow, a Punch and Judy tent outside a Wembley gig, the rearranging of the corrupt, the changing of the arseholes - a project to amuse a small group of wealthy old people while some adults try to rebuild our country as a result of their last few decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 18 hours ago, rallyboy said: I love the way they grandly call it a leadership race to - a. Glam it up b. Pretend they're still relevant. c. Add in fake urgency to make it exciting. In reality this vote is nothing more than a little sideshow, a Punch and Judy tent outside a Wembley gig, the rearranging of the corrupt, the changing of the arseholes - a project to amuse a small group of wealthy old people while some adults try to rebuild our country as a result of their last few decisions. They are keeping the seat warm for Andy Street to firstly get a safe seat to win and secondly for him to get onto the front bench for whoever loses in 2028 or 29. Then when the Tory right/ERG is rejected again they will turn back to One Nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/13/james-cleverly-targeted-by-dirt-digging-firms-dossier-in-tory-leadership-race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 Priceless. https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/kemi-badenoch-working-class-tory-leadership-race-b2614729.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 6 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Priceless. https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/kemi-badenoch-working-class-tory-leadership-race-b2614729.html One of my university friends from a very elite public school worked in Sainsburys for beer money. On that basis he’s working class too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Interesting tactic. I wonder if badenoch is a plant, put there to say the most stupid possible things, so that the other candidates can get some good soundbites and come across as reasonable? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c781m9v4255o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 It’s an absolute shit show of nobodies, a collection of failures. Kemi is absolutely hatstand, I almost hope she gets it for the hilarity. i reckon honest Bob will win it, and what a cunt he is. Ask someone to draw you a Tory and he is it, useless and completely arrogant about it all in the same breath. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 1 hour ago, pingpong said: Interesting tactic. I wonder if badenoch is a plant, put there to say the most stupid possible things, so that the other candidates can get some good soundbites and come across as reasonable? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c781m9v4255o I can’t believe she’s said that, I don’t think she’s a plant but is just genuinely batshit mental. Ageing population, main two parties looking to reduce migration, maintaining a western public services model - yeah, great idea Kemi 😂😂😂 It’s going to be Jenryck isn’t it? And his corruption record is a gift for the other parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 3 hours ago, The Kraken said: It’s an absolute shit show of nobodies, a collection of failures. Kemi is absolutely hatstand, I almost hope she gets it for the hilarity. i reckon honest Bob will win it, and what a cunt he is. Ask someone to draw you a Tory and he is it, useless and completely arrogant about it all in the same breath. You missed out corrupt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 The other three candidates are making hay out of Kemi’s astonishing blooper https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm24vzd52p4o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7481gy3kg9o The fact the audience cheered about her saying Trump winning would cheer her up and fact that a majority of hands up wanted her back in Parliament defies belief. They really don’t get why they lost so heavily do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 10 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7481gy3kg9o The fact the audience cheered about her saying Trump winning would cheer her up and fact that a majority of hands up wanted her back in Parliament defies belief. They really don’t get why they lost so heavily do they? Britain is a socialist country because of the Tory Governments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 50 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7481gy3kg9o The fact the audience cheered about her saying Trump winning would cheer her up and fact that a majority of hands up wanted her back in Parliament defies belief. They really don’t get why they lost so heavily do they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: Britain is a socialist country because of the Tory Governments? Crazy isn’t it? We barely have the public services left of a developed western county. This is what happens if you spend any time with the modern day GOP over the pond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7481gy3kg9o The fact the audience cheered about her saying Trump winning would cheer her up and fact that a majority of hands up wanted her back in Parliament defies belief. They really don’t get why they lost so heavily do they? She gives the media plenty of content but it grates how much publicity this cunt gets. She is shameless. Badenoch seems to have similar arrogance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 45 minutes ago, whelk said: She gives the media plenty of content but it grates how much publicity this cunt gets. She is shameless. Badenoch seems to have similar arrogance. Kemi Badenoch. Same as the previous woman but with better PR. Copyright: Jamie Delldays (many many times) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Corrupt Bob causing more blue on blue action https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp39q1ppk41o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 18 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: Corrupt Bob causing more blue on blue action https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp39q1ppk41o Blue on blue action made that a lot more exciting sounding than listening to their sales pitches today. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 26 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Blue on blue action made that a lot more exciting sounding than listening to their sales pitches today. 🙂 So it wasn’t Kemi on Penny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 19 minutes ago, whelk said: So it wasn’t Kemi on Penny? Your box of tissues may be returned safely to the drawer. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Poor show from Tory Laura. https://news.sky.com/story/bbc-cancels-boris-johnson-interview-after-laura-kuenssbergs-embarrassing-mistake-13226969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 hour ago, whelk said: Poor show from Tory Laura. https://news.sky.com/story/bbc-cancels-boris-johnson-interview-after-laura-kuenssbergs-embarrassing-mistake-13226969 Cynical I know but that’s the sort of thing which gets you the elbow at the BBC and not what you expect from someone that experienced. Given Boris’s duo will be going shortly I’d think, I wonder if she’s had a bigger offer from one of Murdoch’s or Marshall’s streaming channels and this gets her out of her BBC deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 49 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Cynical I know but that’s the sort of thing which gets you the elbow at the BBC and not what you expect from someone that experienced. Given Boris’s duo will be going shortly I’d think, I wonder if she’s had a bigger offer from one of Murdoch’s or Marshall’s streaming channels and this gets her out of her BBC deal? Or... she fucked up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 2 hours ago, whelk said: Poor show from Tory Laura. https://news.sky.com/story/bbc-cancels-boris-johnson-interview-after-laura-kuenssbergs-embarrassing-mistake-13226969 Her salary not far off Starmer + Sue Gray combined. At least she’s not on the nuclear button. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 "And today on Newscast, Laura will be sharing the results of her latest deep dive into the political world. Laura, what are you...oh wait, we already know, thanks to you sending us it all last week." The BBC decided not to proceed, despite Boris saying he never read the notes, honest, cross his heart. A BBC spokesman said that, since the Conservatives are no longer in power, there was no underhand deal they could enter to let it go ahead in exchange for a favourable licence fee outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 From Beeb front page "Off air with Laura K Get Laura Kuenssberg's expert insight and insider stories every week, emailed directly to you." Off air indeed 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said: Or... she fucked up! Equally possible and/or a subordinate dropped a ricket and she’s soaring their blushes. Still an unusual situation at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 You know this means we won’t get hear about his daring raid to steal vaccines from the Dutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 So Tugendhat is out and most, if not all, of his votes will probably go to Cleverly leaving the other two to fight it out as the nasty choice. Jenrick and Badenoch will both be working through the night to try and pick up extra votes. I expect we will see Cleverly and Jenrick as the candidates to be put before the gammons and blue rinsers. My money would have been on Jenrick but given Cleverly’s stock has risen after his conference speech, who knows? There will be a fag paper between a Jenrick Tory Party and Reform. Will common sense prevail and the moderate candidate win? Can’t see it myself. I think we are in for a drawn out battle for the far right ground over the next 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 13 hours ago, sadoldgit said: So Tugendhat is out and most, if not all, of his votes will probably go to Cleverly leaving the other two to fight it out as the nasty choice. Jenrick and Badenoch will both be working through the night to try and pick up extra votes. I expect we will see Cleverly and Jenrick as the candidates to be put before the gammons and blue rinsers. My money would have been on Jenrick but given Cleverly’s stock has risen after his conference speech, who knows? There will be a fag paper between a Jenrick Tory Party and Reform. Will common sense prevail and the moderate candidate win? Can’t see it myself. I think we are in for a drawn out battle for the far right ground over the next 5 years. My gut says that Cleverly could beat Jenrick, who's frankly not very inspiring. But I don't think the Tory members would be able to resist Badenoch and her extreme anti-wokeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 47 minutes ago, Jeremy Corbyn said: My gut says that Cleverly could beat Jenrick, who's frankly not very inspiring. But I don't think the Tory members would be able to resist Badenoch and her extreme anti-wokeness. What about resisting her blackness? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Badenoch or Jenrick. Fucking hell! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 19 hours ago, sadoldgit said: most, if not all, of his votes will probably go to Cleverly leaving the other two to fight it out as the nasty choice. Jenrick and Badenoch will both be working through the night to try and pick up extra votes. I expect we will see Cleverly and Jenrick as the candidates Wrong again… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 10 minutes ago, benjii said: Badenoch or Jenrick. Fucking hell! Good news for Labour. Cleverly had the broadest appeal to the wider population Badenoch could start a fight in an empty room and Crooked Bob has the sort of face that you'd like to punch. When was the last time that a leader of the defeated party won the next election (Wilson in '74?). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 23 minutes ago, benjii said: Badenoch or Jenrick. Fucking hell! 10 more years, 10 more years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Mental if true 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 (edited) Surprised at that, Cleverly looked like the best out of a bad bunch. Think Starmer is going to be able to crack on with his free Arsenal tickets for a while as the two left just look unelectable to me. Badenoch seems a tad unhinged and Jenrick just comes across as a wanker. Edited October 9 by aintforever 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Vote lending for sure, big own goal, and it means badenoch could well get in 😯 we will see a campaign based on getting rid of disabled toilets and the evils of trans-women. Not sure how she is going to win over the grown ups in the room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 5 minutes ago, pingpong said: Vote lending for sure, big own goal, and it means badenoch could well get in 😯 we will see a campaign based on getting rid of disabled toilets and the evils of trans-women. Not sure how she is going to win over the grown ups in the room. And more prisons to accommodate 10% of the civil service 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 The last Tory membership vote gave us Truss as a PM, so I’m fully expecting them to stick to form and elect the worst candidate as their next leader. Trouble is I’m very much unsure which one that is. Honest Bob seems seems like a genuine sociopath and the dictionary definition of terrible Tory. Kemi is, unfortunately for her, only fractionally as clever as she thinks she is, and I’m not sure if continuing her tactic of inciting division is going to poll all that well outside of the true Tory blue bloods. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Just when you thought that the Tories were going to have a grown up for a leader..... Mind you if Cleverley supporters were really that cack handed it is perhaps a good job that he hasn't gone through to the members vote. Has any politician ever been as misnamed as Cleverley?? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 If kemi gets in labour will need to avoid a winter election to head off any claims of weather control / weather weapons. I expect starmer would just capitulate on trans issues and neutralise the battleground with badenoch, so they are probably better with jenrick and running on the "stop the brown people" ticket. Neither seem very hopeful, how on earth are they going to get this turned around to traditional conservative family values? Maybe jenrick, generate a scandal in a year or two and try for a new leader again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 9 minutes ago, pingpong said: If kemi gets in labour will need to avoid a winter election to head off any claims of weather control / weather weapons. I expect starmer would just capitulate on trans issues and neutralise the battleground with badenoch, so they are probably better with jenrick and running on the "stop the brown people" ticket. Neither seem very hopeful, how on earth are they going to get this turned around to traditional conservative family values? Maybe jenrick, generate a scandal in a year or two and try for a new leader again? Jenrick and scandal - can’t imagine those 2 words have ever been seen iñ the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 They’ve been gerrymandering the vote for years, going back to when Portillo was kept off the member’s ballot . Just as Ed Millibands short sighted rule changes gave us Corbyn, William Hagues rule changes gve us these shenanigans. If you want to give the members a say, just vote once & send the top 2 forward to the membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 10 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: They’ve been gerrymandering the vote for years, going back to when Portillo was kept off the member’s ballot . Just as Ed Millibands short sighted rule changes gave us Corbyn, William Hagues rule changes gve us these shenanigans. If you want to give the members a say, just vote once & send the top 2 forward to the membership. Wasn't it the members that gave us Truss ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 25 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Wasn't it the members that gave us Truss ? Famously instead of Sunak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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