S-Clarke Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 It's not a surprise and I'm glad he fell on his own sword after a final rather than being absolutley vilified had we come home after that Slovakia game. It feels the most dignified end, although the routes to the finals have been somewhat paved in gold, he has provided generations of England fans experiences they could have only dreamed of in years gone by. I can't see the FA going for a manager employed at a club, it's not how they work. They will focus on options that are currently out of work or already within the FA Setup. For me that creates an immediate shortlist of Potter, Carsley, Poch. My hunch is that Carsley will be put in 'temp' charge for the nations league games in Sept and will probably get the job if we do well in that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 5 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Southgate is a bang average manager. Nothing more. if he is as good as some say, I wonder which elite club will take him on next. I’m not saying he’s a great manager. Clearly he has his limitations. I agree that he’s taken us as far as he can (I actually would have pulled the trigger after the World Cup personally) But he has done extremely well and given us a team to be proud of which is more than most other England managers in my life time. He clearly loves the country and the job and has changed things for the better. Now definitely feels like the right time for a change, but I will always be grateful to him and sad that he didn’t achieve the final goal of silverware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) 41 minutes ago, The Left Back said: in the 50 years after winning the World Cup before Southgate we won 6 knockout games in major tournaments. Southgate won 9 in 8 years Would be interesting (perhaps) to see a list of the teams we went out to in the knockout stages during that 50 year period alongside a list of the teams we went through against during Southgate's 8 years... Edited July 16 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CampionSaint Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 5 hours ago, skintsaint said: Good post. Players from other countries seem to play better for their countries than their clubs. It's the other way to round with us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 11 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Spot on. The point at which all of the energy and lift the equaliser gave us disappeared. https://amp.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/15/turning-point-england-kyle-walker-throw-in-euro-2024-final-spain Gary Lineker summed it up perfectly. Spain’s win was a triumph for attacking football over negative, defensive football. I like that analysis. Says so much about the modern game inEngland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Not entirely sure how Walker gets in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Kind of telling that one of the tournament finalists only has one player in the team of the tournament and it’s a bit of a mystery how even he got in there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, The Kraken said: Kind of telling that one of the tournament finalists only has one player in the team of the tournament and it’s a bit of a mystery how even he got in there. It also shows what a poor tournament strikers had overall as they've slotted Musiala in instead (whose place is warranted but there is a glaring lack of an actual striker there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 3 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Not entirely sure how Walker gets in. How bad were the other right backs? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 3 hours ago, The Kraken said: Kind of telling that one of the tournament finalists only has one player in the team of the tournament and it’s a bit of a mystery how even he got in there. Still Phil Foden came back with more kids than goal involvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 8 minutes ago, Turkish said: Still Phil Foden came back with more kids than goal involvements. So he must have got into the box at least once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Just now, Whitey Grandad said: So he must have got into the box at least once. 9 months early, completely mistimed his shot, like most of the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 This puts our standing in international football into perspective. https://www.givemesport.com/greatest-international-football-teams-all-time-ranked/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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