Saint Gifford Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 We came into this worrying about our defence. They have been the best part of the team up to now including JP. Attack Midfield, wow. It’s like watching back side back side long wasted ball back short long wasted ball can’t pass. Im sorry can’t pick out individuals, not fair. But if I have to, Southgate, it can’t be the players. TBF the big guns haven’t exactly ripped up tree’s including England. Come up against Spain, we are fu?£ed on this performance.
AlexLaw76 Posted 25 June, 2024 Author Posted 25 June, 2024 He has to make changes…. But I suspect it will be TAA for Gallagher
saintant Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Different game same old shit - clueless. No movement, gaps between players too big, poor passing, lack of courage to commit men forward. Cowardly display presided over by Mr Negative. 3
manji Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 They’ve just shown that cringeworthy Hey Jude Advert. Useful though it reminded me he’s playing 2
egg Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: He has to make changes…. But I suspect it will be TAA for Gallagher You know it. Obvious choice is Bellingham in alongside Rice, Gordon wide left, Foden in the hole although if he's done nothing in 20 mins I'd like to see Palmer on. 1
Challenger Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Not sure whether to watch the second half or tackle that baked-on bird shit on the car windscreen. 1
saintant Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Too much walking football - you're meant to be elite players not 60 year old blokes! 2
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 I will honestly say we're the worst team alongside Scotland in the Euro's. Lucky to have 4 points at this stage. We should be going out for crimes against football. 2
Turkish Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Keane “taking the safe option every time” sums it up Neville saying we look basic, both bang on basic is a very good description 4
Captain Jack Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 I am having the same feelings at half time as I was having during a fair number of saints games last season! This is like the worst days of Russball. Hopefully Southgate can adapt at half time, and certainly in the next game. Currently no pace, no movement, no innovation 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Slovenia organised, with no nonsense, structured passing moves. They've not picked up a few good runs too. England got better, but that was really because it followed Slovenia possession and there was a bit more room. Some sloppy passing. Neither Rice nor Gallagher ever choosing to push through the middle, when they could. Instead, always out wide and then back. Saka is marshalled out there. Kane dropping deep, but Bellingham not pushing up. Foden more involved. Has license to go infield. But only the one move where Bellingham then moved out from the centre to give more link up options, did that really work. Foden not best pleased with right footed Trippier at times. Yet Foden did a nice run for the offside effort. And a Foden run allowed Trippier to come in on his right foot to put in a good ball. Patient and with lots of possession. But lacking the drive and incisive passing as yet.
Turkish Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 2 minutes ago, angelman said: Maybe Grealish should have been on the plane. Leaving him out looks more ludicrous every passing minute of every game 3
Toadhall Saint Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Keane “taking the safe option every time” sums it up Neville saying we look basic, both bang on basic is a very good description Well at least Southgate is consistent in his total lack of tactics - basic and more basic.
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Just now, Turkish said: Leaving him out looks more ludicrous every passing minute of every game One less player for Southgate to mismanage tbf. 2
Tamesaint Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 (edited) If we are going to play Russball we need someone to play the Flynn Downes role and link the midfield to the attack. Edited 25 June, 2024 by Tamesaint 1
Chez Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 3 minutes ago, egg said: Obvious choice is Bellingham in alongside Rice, that seems to be the housewives favourite move, but when is the last time he played in that deeper role? 1
saintant Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 5 minutes ago, angelman said: Maybe Grealish should have been on the plane. Too much flair and creativity for Southgate's taste. 1
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 If he brings on a CM for a CM I think i'll scream. It's calling out for someone to be direct like Eze or Gordon (or Palmer)
Patches O Houlihan Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 This team is surely improved with Gordon & Shaw on the left so that we have some genuine options (🤞). Everyone knows to gang up on Saka & Bellingham. They know Kane is safe to leave on the ball provided he is outside the area (ie most of the time) Can Cole Palmer play on the left? I really haven't seen him play
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Oh good, so he's done just what he shouldn't have done. CM for a CM. We have one more game to endure after this as well, couldn't get any worse.
Toadhall Saint Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: One less player for Southgate to mismanage tbf. Let’s change the players - it doesn’t matter who he picks it’s his fucking lack of motivation, tactics just everything Southgate is and always will be a defender.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Mainoo on. Should have come for TAA in the last game and for this one. Southgate got there in the end.
badgerx16 Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 1 minute ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Mainoo on. Should have come for TAA in the last game and for this one. Southgate got there in the end. Grudgingly.
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 2 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Mainoo on. Should have come for TAA in the last game and for this one. Southgate got there in the end. The wrong change at this stage though, we need more width on the left and someone to commit their defenders, it's only bloody Slovenia.. We didn't need another CM to pass it backwards at this stage.
Saint Gifford Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 I’m sorry but Bellingham, is not all that. He’s taking Fodens position and he’s also been sh?t Bellingham would be eaten alive in the Prem. Oh perhaps that’s why he has avoided the league…………. Just shows that the Prem is fantastic because it is full of international players and managers. English players under Southgate just can’t gel together. Need an English manager next, but can’t help feeling we need to go overseas to win anything. Don’t want that but English manager versus silverware is a big question. Just seen the changes, says it all change 1 position for the start of the game, and change it again at half time.
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Just now, Saint Gifford said: I’m sorry but Bellingham, is not all that. He’s taking Fodens position and he’s also been sh?t Bellingham would be eaten alive in the Prem. Oh perhaps that’s why he has avoided the league…………. Just shows that the Prem is fantastic because it is full of international players and managers. English players under Southgate just can’t gel together. Need an English manager next, but can’t help feeling we need to go overseas to win anything. Don’t want that but English manager versus silverware is a big question. Just seen the changes, says it all change 1 position for the start of the game, and change it again at half time. This is why Southgate should be strung up for how he's making our players look. He really isn't shit. Bellingham is top level, elite class. No one can look good in a Southgate team. We don't have a problem with the players in the final third of the team, they are all good enough without question. They are being strangled by a manager who has swallowed a book on how to defend a 0-0. 3
egg Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 11 minutes ago, Chez said: that seems to be the housewives favourite move, but when is the last time he played in that deeper role? No idea, but with Rice sitting deep, we don't need someone else playing the same way. Mainoo in there and no other change sums this manager up. 1
Chez Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 1 minute ago, Saint Gifford said: I’m sorry but Bellingham, is not all that. He’s taking Fodens position and he’s also been sh?t Bellingham would be eaten alive in the Prem. Oh perhaps that’s why he has avoided the league…………. Hmmm, not sure about your Bellingham conclusion, but he's been terrible in this tournament so far. He had some poor games for Real towards the end of the season too. He appears to have a completely free role, a bit like at Real, so you can't even point to him being played out of position. Think Foden has looked extremely bright in this game.. Easily our best player in the first half.
whelk Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 9 minutes ago, Saint Gifford said: Bellingham would be eaten alive in the Prem. Oh perhaps that’s why he has avoided the league…………. Yeah bottled a move to Brentford and took the easy option to Real Madrid 1
egg Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Mainoo taking up some decent positions to be fair. We look better with him in there. 4
Saint Billy Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Trying to pass it into the goal now. Someone just get hold of the fucking thing and welly it.
badgerx16 Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 (edited) Our potential opponents in what is currently our side of the draw will hardly be quaking in their boots at the prospect of playing England. Edited 25 June, 2024 by badgerx16
adrian lord Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 It’s the missus’ birthday so out in a posh restaurant and missing the game… 0-0 after 60+ minutes doesn’t sound encouraging?
Chez Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 1 minute ago, adrian lord said: It’s the missus’ birthday so out in a posh restaurant and missing the game… 0-0 after 60+ minutes doesn’t sound encouraging? suspect a little insight into your menu would be about as interesting as the evening gets for most on here. 1
Saint Billy Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 1 minute ago, adrian lord said: It’s the missus’ birthday so out in a posh restaurant and missing the game… 0-0 after 60+ minutes doesn’t sound encouraging? Even if your restaurant serves up a dead dogs eye on a bed of rice your still better off than watching this shit show. 1 2
beatlesaint Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 This England performance with all its sideways and backwards passing must be like a soft porn film for Russell Martin ! 3
adrian lord Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Just now, Turkish said: Get some fucking wingers on you useless prick I’m still on the main course, that’s a little harsh! 3
AlexLaw76 Posted 25 June, 2024 Author Posted 25 June, 2024 Kane has been so bad…. also, Southgate’s use of the squad is appalling. How on earth has Cole Palmer or Gordon not getting minutes here
Suhari Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 So dull. Most expensive squad at the Euros, and the highest paid manager. Embarrassing. 4
Sheaf Saint Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 Fair play to the England fans in the ground. Don't know they can keep this up, given the absolute shitshow they're being served up on the pitch. 2
Suhari Posted 25 June, 2024 Posted 25 June, 2024 1 minute ago, beatlesaint said: This England performance with all its sideways and backwards passing must be like a soft porn film for Russell Martin ! We need to forget the soft stuff and get some Hawk Tuha going. C'mon Gareth. You know what to do.
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