Saint Billy Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 What a crock of diarrhoea that was. Yes we have a plethora of talent at our disposal but we are managed by Mr Bean. Watching the players come out of the tunnel for the first half they didn’t appear hyped up and looked totally unmotivated and thats pretty much how they performed alongside clueless, negative, uninspired football. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Offered nothing, hence why all the pundits are saying it. He was hardly the biggest problem. Poor analysis to just focus on him. No mention of the midfield shit show in the first half… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Wharton and Mainoo are both very exciting young players Palmer is a very exciting winger. Yet Southgate is trying to reinvent the wheel. Fucking sick of him 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Any one of the big European nations will destroy us in the knockout stages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: Wharton and Mainoo are both very exciting young players Palmer is a very exciting winger. Yet Southgate is trying to reinvent the wheel. Fucking sick of him He has at least been coherent at the last 3 tournaments. This one he’s lost the plot I think. Throwing together combinations that have never been tried and it’s not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 England lucky to be on 4 points rather than 2 heading into Slovenia game. felt before tournament England had missed chance to win a tournament. alexander Arnold as a cm is diabolically bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 “TAA in midfield is an experiment” doing it now… at the Euros Why 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Guehi about the only player able to eat his dinner tonight knowing that he’s earned it - being short changed by that powder puff Rice pass and retrieving the situation, anyone else would have made a half arsed dogs dinner of that: even if they had the gumption. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Had days of listening to politicians not answering the question posed to them and then along comes Southgate and trumps them all - and Lineker and Ferdinand have the cheek to say he was honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Just Southgate doing Southgate things. Sir Gareth I’ll have you know, so the whispers say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Utter crap. Uninspiring and boring. A team reflecting their manager’s personality perfectly. Can you imagine him giving them the hairdryer treatment at half time? Rhetorical question. You need that when it’s not working and he simply hasn’t got it in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, Gingeletiss said: Sir Gareth I’ll have you know, so the whispers say. For services to England's opponents presumably. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 I think we've been one of the worst teams in the Euro's up to now, I've seen everyone twice and we are utter garbage. Slow, passive, absolutely boring as all shit to watch. Nothing to look forward to with this lot. Gareth saying we don't have anyone to play Kalvin Phillips role. Umm, let me point you into the direction of the two fricking players you bought in Wharton and Mainoo. Bizarre management of the highest order up to now. Whole team is a disjointed mess of square pegs. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Do we not have any other DMs than Kalvin Phillips - is that actually true?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, Gingeletiss said: Sir Gareth I’ll have you know, so the whispers say. Probably, and for achieving fuck all just like many of the other Sirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 3 minutes ago, Gingeletiss said: Sir Gareth I’ll have you know, so the whispers say. More like Sir Robin from Monty python. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 minute ago, sfc4prem said: Do we not have any other DMs than Kalvin Phillips - is that actually true?!? That comment summed him up entirely really. He seems to think we need two DM's in the side, i.e. Rice and Phillips. Such a passive manager, dull as dishwater. We have some of the best attackers in the entire world in the front 4, statistically from this season they are the best in the world. Somehow we are making them invisible, that's not down to the players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 That side doesn’t have a hope in hell of winning the Euros. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: Do we not have any other DMs than Kalvin Phillips - is that actually true?!? A decent manager would find a way round it, with the players available to him: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, S-Clarke said: That comment summed him up entirely really. He seems to think we need two DM's in the side, i.e. Rice and Phillips. Such a passive manager, dull as dishwater. We have some of the best attackers in the entire world in the front 4, statistically from this season they are the best in the world. Somehow we are making them invisible, that's not down to the players. He is a timid excuse of a manager. If he had anything about him he'd have made sure we put Italy to the sword after Luke Shaw's goal against them in the last final but instead of going for the jugular we did what all Southgate teams do - we went into our protective shell and tried to hold on to the one nil. Italy were a poor side and nothing to be afraid of unless you're Gareth Southgate of course. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scumbag Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Sure Kane said something along the lines of not being sure who was meant to be going forward and pressing...and the guys in the studio said they need to do some 'drills' on the training pitch to sort it out. Jesus...sounds like the under 13s down the rec on a Sunday morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, scumbag said: Sure Kane said something along the lines of not being sure who was meant to be going forward and pressing...and the guys in the studio said they need to do some 'drills' on the training pitch to sort it out. Jesus...sounds like the under 13s down the rec on a Sunday morning. Said in the first half it was like watching a pub team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Southgate, before the match: "My focus is to get qualified from the group,..." Which he's now achieved. BBC after it, pointing out that we're all wrong about Trent:"No player created more chances (3) or played more line-breaking passes in the final third (5) for England against Denmark than Trent Alexander-Arnold, despite him being subbed off in the 54th minute." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 The amount of times those players come up against the high press or play in that system themselves and yet we could not deal with Denmarks. Our passing was beyond poor, in fact everything about our game was clueless. Southgate is of the old school type managers that should have been put out to pasture long ago and his style is not relevant in todays modern game. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Pretty poor from England , they don't have any control in midfield, Denmark have been given the space to come forward at will. They didn't seem to know what the plan was and in the end couldn't even do tippy tappy without giving the ball away , hopeless . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 I am sorry but that was utter utter shit, great goal by the danes who should of won. World class players become shit players for england and that is down to the manager. Him lamenting the lack of phillips so he could play 2 DM's, play fucking Mainoo then he can break forward and support the rest or sit if Declan goes forward. I feel like this is groundhog day for the umpteenth tournament in a row. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 30 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: “TAA in midfield is an experiment” doing it now… at the Euros Why Absolutely unbelievable to admit that during a tournament. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Thought Saka's high point was being Saka by falling over as soon as someone got within 1km of him. I got the sense Rice was having to work too hard Thought guehi was quality, though walker was good, thought ball rentention was fucking horrific and if Kane can explain who he was passing to for their goal i'd like to know, not to pick on him but a lot of players kept playing the ball out of defence on the sides back into the centre to get picked off !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Do sexy nuns work for england ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 I see the Spanish contingent in Lepe have got a flag at the game. Fair play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Typical England, no passion, played like statues. This is shaping up to be another tournament where they limp into the knockouts and get beaten by the first big team they meet. Why can't they show a bit of passion for once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Awful display and lucky to get a point out of that. Turned the ball over so many times, especially in our own half. Will be like watching us play Russball in the PL. Horrible watch. Even a point in the next game limps us through... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 39 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I think we've been one of the worst teams in the Euro's up to now, I've seen everyone twice and we are utter garbage. Slow, passive, absolutely boring as all shit to watch. Nothing to look forward to with this lot. Gareth saying we don't have anyone to play Kalvin Phillips role. Umm, let me point you into the direction of the two fricking players you bought in Wharton and Mainoo. Bizarre management of the highest order up to now. Whole team is a disjointed mess of square pegs. Good to see your working as hard as me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) 48 minutes ago, James said: He has at least been coherent at the last 3 tournaments. This one he’s lost the plot I think. Throwing together combinations that have never been tried and it’s not working. That’s the madness of it. He’s had ages to prepare for this. If he wasn’t going to take Henderson he must have known that ages ago, so should have been finding the alternative way ahead of the tournament. Yet he leaves it until the actual competition begins to start experimenting with mad shit like TAA in midfield, something that any average fan could see wouldn’t work. I’ve really tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but that’s bang up incompetence. Edited June 20 by Midfield_General 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 By the way I thought Denmark deserve more credit than England were just shit. They had a good gameplan, stuck to it and were unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, skintsaint said: By the way I thought Denmark deserve more credit than England were just shit. They had a good gameplan, stuck to it and were unlucky. To be fair i think we assisted most of their chances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, Convict Colony said: To be fair i think we assisted most of their chances Due to their high press, something we couldn't seem to muster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, Saint86 said: Shearer in particular just can't bring himself to criicise his mate Southgate. Whereas anyone still defending southgate either suffers from serious bias or is so tactically illiterate they may as well be watching rugby The man's a tit, an absolute tit. He waxed lyrical all game about Harry Kane and his goal, how expertly taken it was, how he opened his body, how he got good connection. Fuck me, it was a tap in from 6 yards that I could probably finish 99 times out of 100 and I'm a pensioner...! Shearers a complete fraud as a pundit, get rid and save the beeb half a million annually. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Thankfully not in the country to hear all the post mortem stuff but familiar dross served up. Southgate needs to fuck off, stymies players we know are good enough. His role is solely to get cohesion and the fucker is happy holding one nil. whilst feel a bit for TAA and the bs hype but playing him in midfield is on the manager. Play Mainoo FFS and fuck this Declan Rice love in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: I got the sense Rice was having to work too hard. I felt sorry for Rice, he had Trent alongside him strolling about like a spare right back and Bellingham in front poncing about like he’s some sort of god who doesn’t need to bother working for the team anymore. Edited June 20 by aintforever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 5 minutes ago, Micky said: The man's a tit, an absolute tit. He waxed lyrical all game about Harry Kane and his goal, how expertly taken it was, how he opened his body, how he got good connection. Fuck me, it was a tap in from 6 yards that I could probably finish 99 times out of 100 and I'm a pensioner...! Shearers a complete fraud as a pundit, get rid and save the beeb half a million annually. I noticed it, on comms he was all over Kane but then at end of match he's talking about his legs going etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Southgate: "We know it’s an experiment and we know that we don’t have a natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips." As he dips into the twix family pack at home, spare a thought for Kalvin. Had he had even a half decent season, there was a place there, just waiting for him. If Southgate required that role, then he should be picking players to fit it. His team's have rarely transitioned well, and link up play is often iffy. So suddenly telling Rice and Bellingham to adjust to try and accommodate TAA is foolish. We saw how disjointed it made the team. If he picked Mainoo to do that job, then play him. If he has to tell Rice to focus only on that, then do it and bring in another proper midfielder. That would seem to be Gallagher. Or play Wharton. 3 options that he's got available, but backed off of to accommodate TAA. You can't bemoan the lack of a specialist in the role, when there were opportunities to pick others, and when the option is there to play those that did make the squad. He has to pick the players best suitable for that role. That's not TAA and it's not Gallagher. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Southgate: "We know it’s an experiment and we know that we don’t have a natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips." As he dips into the twix family pack at home, spare a thought for Kalvin. Had he had even a half decent season, there was a place there, just waiting for him. If Southgate required that role, then he should be picking players to fit it. His team's have rarely transitioned well, and link up play is often iffy. So suddenly telling Rice and Bellingham to adjust to try and accommodate TAA is foolish. We saw how disjointed it made the team. If he picked Mainoo to do that job, then play him. If he has to tell Rice to focus only on that, then do it and bring in another proper midfielder. That would seem to be Gallagher. Or play Wharton. 3 options that he's got available, but backed off of to accommodate TAA. You can't bemoan the lack of a specialist in the role, when there were opportunities to pick others, and when the option is there to play those that did make the squad. He has to pick the players best suitable for that role. That's not TAA and it's not Gallagher. Fuck me.....he's Kalvin Phillps not Lionel Messi. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 I'll say it again - Lamine Yamal is outstanding. He's frigging 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 8 minutes ago, Micky said: The man's a tit, an absolute tit. He waxed lyrical all game about Harry Kane and his goal, how expertly taken it was, how he opened his body, how he got good connection. Fuck me, it was a tap in from 6 yards that I could probably finish 99 times out of 100 and I'm a pensioner...! Shearers a complete fraud as a pundit, get rid and save the beeb half a million annually. 2 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: I noticed it, on comms he was all over Kane but then at end of match he's talking about his legs going etc As he drivelled on failing to understand what was goin on in front of him, I was thinking about how rubbish his own managerial record was. 5 points from 24. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, SNSUN said: I'll say it again - Lamine Yamal is outstanding. He's frigging 16. Another year or so, and he'll be at the age to join us as a stepping stone to a promising career. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skintsaint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 11 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: and we know that we don’t have a natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips." Apart from Wharton....why take him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 minute ago, skintsaint said: Apart from Wharton....why take him. Exactly. Moaning about not having a replacement and not playing the replacement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Mike Bassett at full time seemed happy Mike bassett.mp4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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