SNSUN Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 See it's quite a simple solution for Gareth because Trent is a right back by trade. So what he needs to do is: 1) Move Trent to right back where he's more comfortable. 2) Move Walker to CB because you have to accommodate him somewhere and Trent now has his position. 3) Now that Walker has Stones' position, you'll have to move Stones into midfield because he's quite good there for City or something. 4) Now that you have Stones in midfield, there's no need for Rice - but as we have to accommodate him somewhere, and he's quite good going forwards, he gets moved into the 10 position. 5) With Bellingham relinquishing his space to Rice, he'll have to play as a striker because you can't leave Bellingham out. GOAT. 6) Hmm, Ok, that means Kane has to play somewhere. He's tall and slowing down, stick him at centre back alongside Walker. He can be the threat at corners with headers. 7) Guehi is dropped, because he's been too good this tournament. 8 ) Saka is left footed, so he's wasted on the right. To left back you go Mr Bukayo. 9) With the right-wing spot free, we can move Phil Foden there because he can play anywhere. 10) Trippier to left wing because apparently he's really good on the left. 11) Pickford into midfield because he's good at pinging long balls. 12) Ramsdale in goal. Job done. It's so easy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 13 minutes ago, Chez said: not enough players willing to run without the ball at their feet. Need a few more 'workers' to balance the superstars. This pitch is horrific. Some of the England players seem to have lost a little confidence because of it. Are Denmark playing on a different pitch then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 As I just said in the lads group chat “This is proper shit, players in all the wrong positions, and players undeservedly playing”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Gifford Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 When we change manager, which always happens at some point. Please not Safegate…………………… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Disaster incoming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, Toadhall Saint said: Disaster incoming It's already here for all to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 What an awful free kick. Utter waste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 How on earth Cole Palmer hasn’t seen a minute of action so far is an absolute disgrace. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 We're chasing a goal, playing slow tedious football and Southgate's on the sidelines telling everyone to calm down 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Bellingham is part of the problem. He just floats around like he does at Madrid. He's a brilliant player, but he needs the right system if he is going to do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 I think that is probably the worst England performance I have ever seen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 That was a very poor performance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 That was fucking pathetic. Lucky not to lose. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Good job the roof was closed for that game or Thor would have pelted us with lightning bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 The harshest criticism for me is that this performance has forced me to make Hjobjerg man of the match - that's a disgrace. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Really really poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, sadoldgit said: I think that is probably the worst England performance I have ever seen. A pretty low bar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, SNSUN said: Good job the roof was closed for that game or Thor would have pelted us with lightning bolts. Or Zeus or whoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 minute ago, sadoldgit said: I think that is probably the worst England performance I have ever seen. You've forgotten the Iceland performance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 On the positive side, a point effectively gets us out the group - so we can now use the Slovenia game to try a different line up/tactics etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Anything half decent in the knockouts and this lot are cooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 just dire. How you can get a team with those players to be so crap is quite an achievement 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 No point interviewing Southgate - there'll be nothing we haven't heard time and time again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Southgate is an architect of failure, he’s never done nothing remotely impressive in his managerial career. He had two consecutive tournaments of incredibly fortunate fixtures, that’s it. Beating the likes of Ukraine, Sweden and Panama at big tournaments is not impressive and he’s never beaten anyone properly decent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Kyle Walker talking some absolute rubbish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 3 minutes ago, SNSUN said: On the positive side, a point effectively gets us out the group - so we can now use the Slovenia game to try a different line up/tactics etc. We should try Trent in midfield. Only his passing range can unlock defences. No, wait.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Walker talking incomprehensible defensive nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Fuck me, pundits my arse. Not one of them mentions Wokegate by name or critique him. It’s all woolly, don’t want to upset him. It’s down to him… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouSaint Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 It was like watching England under Roy Hodgson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Even Nathan Jones couldn't make this group of players look thus bad. There, I said it 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, Lord Duckhunter said: Fuck me, pundits my arse. Not one of them mentions Wokegate by name or critique him. It’s all woolly, don’t want to upset him. It’s down to him… Agree. They can’t bear to criticise their mates. Kane taking a lot of flack and he scored the goal. Meanwhile, not one mention of the Trent shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 17 minutes ago, SNSUN said: See it's quite a simple solution for Gareth because Trent is a right back by trade. So what he needs to do is: 1) Move Trent to right back where he's more comfortable. 2) Move Walker to CB because you have to accommodate him somewhere and Trent now has his position. 3) Now that Walker has Stones' position, you'll have to move Stones into midfield because he's quite good there for City or something. 4) Now that you have Stones in midfield, there's no need for Rice - but as we have to accommodate him somewhere, and he's quite good going forwards, he gets moved into the 10 position. 5) With Bellingham relinquishing his space to Rice, he'll have to play as a striker because you can't leave Bellingham out. GOAT. 6) Hmm, Ok, that means Kane has to play somewhere. He's tall and slowing down, stick him at centre back alongside Walker. He can be the threat at corners with headers. 7) Guehi is dropped, because he's been too good this tournament. 8 ) Saka is left footed, so he's wasted on the right. To left back you go Mr Bukayo. 9) With the right-wing spot free, we can move Phil Foden there because he can play anywhere. 10) Trippier to left wing because apparently he's really good on the left. 11) Pickford into midfield because he's good at pinging long balls. 12) Ramsdale in goal. Job done. It's so easy. C'mon Rasmus. Stop posting on here and go and sign a player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 It seems straightforward. Drop Trent. Play Foden in the middle. Play Palmer on the left. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 minute ago, James said: Agree. They can’t bear to criticise their mates. Kane taking a lot of flack and he scored the goal. Meanwhile, not one mention of the Trent shambles. Roy Keane said before a ball was kicked that Trent would be found out in midfield and he was spot on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 They’re “puzzled” as to why players that press every week at their clubs, don’t do so when playing for England. There’s no puzzle, it’s fucking tactical. Tactics decided by Wokegate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Kane taking so much stick here. He is hardly the issue. No analysis of the actual issues but what do you expect from the BBC nodding dogs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugenhagen Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, Suhari said: C'mon Rasmus. Stop posting on here and go and sign a player. Careful what you wish for... I'd say keep busy posting on here and leave the signing to others 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: They’re “puzzled” as to why players that press every week at their clubs, don’t do so when playing for England. There’s no puzzle, it’s fucking tactical. Tactics decided by Wokegate. Exactly, we spent most of the game retreating 20 yards en masse every time Denmark got the ball, it's abject fear - you can only imagine how we'll play against the likes of Germany, Portugal, France and Spain and what they will do to us. Southgate instils fear and takes away all the things England's best players are good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: They’re “puzzled” as to why players that press every week at their clubs, don’t do so when playing for England. There’s no puzzle, it’s fucking tactical. Tactics decided by Wokegate. Shearer in particular just can't bring himself to criicise his mate Southgate. Whereas anyone still defending southgate either suffers from serious bias or is so tactically illiterate they may as well be watching rugby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yozzman Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 35 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Yep, he's given the Danish defenders something to think about cos Kane was offering nothing. Apart from a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southner Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Slovenia have never won at the Euros. Who have they got next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 The overall purpose turned out to be as expected, with overall the sort of match as well. In that, tournament manager Southgate ensures a point, effectively taking England into the next round. That's his deliverable, as it's been in the last couple of tournaments. A 2nd group game cautious, defensively structured game should come as no surprise. Underneath that, we've just seen a lot of disappointing performances, with that approach nullifying a lot of the players better qualities. TAA and Foden with the same issues as before. Foden did come in centrally occasionally. DM is an issue. Bellingham and Rice were impacted covering for TAA, while being limited by their instructions. Lots of poor passing. Lots of unforced errors. Lots of possession needlessly conceded. Individually poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Here's Kane with the age old cliche 'there's no easy games in tournament football' Change the record man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, Yozzman said: Apart from a goal. Offered nothing, hence why all the pundits are saying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Missed the game due to work. Sounds like a total shitshow… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just Southgate doing Southgate things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Southgate makes a simple game difficult - that's his main attribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, adrian lord said: Missed the game due to work. Sounds like a total shitshow… It was worse than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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