SNSUN Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 See it's quite a simple solution for Gareth because Trent is a right back by trade. So what he needs to do is: 1) Move Trent to right back where he's more comfortable. 2) Move Walker to CB because you have to accommodate him somewhere and Trent now has his position. 3) Now that Walker has Stones' position, you'll have to move Stones into midfield because he's quite good there for City or something. 4) Now that you have Stones in midfield, there's no need for Rice - but as we have to accommodate him somewhere, and he's quite good going forwards, he gets moved into the 10 position. 5) With Bellingham relinquishing his space to Rice, he'll have to play as a striker because you can't leave Bellingham out. GOAT. 6) Hmm, Ok, that means Kane has to play somewhere. He's tall and slowing down, stick him at centre back alongside Walker. He can be the threat at corners with headers. 7) Guehi is dropped, because he's been too good this tournament. 8 ) Saka is left footed, so he's wasted on the right. To left back you go Mr Bukayo. 9) With the right-wing spot free, we can move Phil Foden there because he can play anywhere. 10) Trippier to left wing because apparently he's really good on the left. 11) Pickford into midfield because he's good at pinging long balls. 12) Ramsdale in goal. Job done. It's so easy. 5
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 13 minutes ago, Chez said: not enough players willing to run without the ball at their feet. Need a few more 'workers' to balance the superstars. This pitch is horrific. Some of the England players seem to have lost a little confidence because of it. Are Denmark playing on a different pitch then? 2
FarehamSaintJames Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 As I just said in the lads group chat “This is proper shit, players in all the wrong positions, and players undeservedly playing”. 1
Saint Gifford Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 When we change manager, which always happens at some point. Please not Safegate……………………
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Just now, Toadhall Saint said: Disaster incoming It's already here for all to see.
ErwinK1961 Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 How on earth Cole Palmer hasn’t seen a minute of action so far is an absolute disgrace. 3
Disco Stu Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 We're chasing a goal, playing slow tedious football and Southgate's on the sidelines telling everyone to calm down 😂 1
Chez Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Bellingham is part of the problem. He just floats around like he does at Madrid. He's a brilliant player, but he needs the right system if he is going to do that. 1
sadoldgit Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 I think that is probably the worst England performance I have ever seen. 2
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 That was fucking pathetic. Lucky not to lose. 3
SNSUN Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Good job the roof was closed for that game or Thor would have pelted us with lightning bolts.
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 The harshest criticism for me is that this performance has forced me to make Hjobjerg man of the match - that's a disgrace. 2 3
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Just now, sadoldgit said: I think that is probably the worst England performance I have ever seen. A pretty low bar. 1
SNSUN Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Just now, SNSUN said: Good job the roof was closed for that game or Thor would have pelted us with lightning bolts. Or Zeus or whoever.
BotleySaint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 1 minute ago, sadoldgit said: I think that is probably the worst England performance I have ever seen. You've forgotten the Iceland performance. 3
SNSUN Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 On the positive side, a point effectively gets us out the group - so we can now use the Slovenia game to try a different line up/tactics etc.
Challenger Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Anything half decent in the knockouts and this lot are cooked.
Turkish Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 just dire. How you can get a team with those players to be so crap is quite an achievement 5
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 No point interviewing Southgate - there'll be nothing we haven't heard time and time again. 3
Lighthouse Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Southgate is an architect of failure, he’s never done nothing remotely impressive in his managerial career. He had two consecutive tournaments of incredibly fortunate fixtures, that’s it. Beating the likes of Ukraine, Sweden and Panama at big tournaments is not impressive and he’s never beaten anyone properly decent. 2
coalman Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 3 minutes ago, SNSUN said: On the positive side, a point effectively gets us out the group - so we can now use the Slovenia game to try a different line up/tactics etc. We should try Trent in midfield. Only his passing range can unlock defences. No, wait..
James Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Walker talking incomprehensible defensive nonsense. 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Fuck me, pundits my arse. Not one of them mentions Wokegate by name or critique him. It’s all woolly, don’t want to upset him. It’s down to him… 4
coalman Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Even Nathan Jones couldn't make this group of players look thus bad. There, I said it 2 1
James Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Just now, Lord Duckhunter said: Fuck me, pundits my arse. Not one of them mentions Wokegate by name or critique him. It’s all woolly, don’t want to upset him. It’s down to him… Agree. They can’t bear to criticise their mates. Kane taking a lot of flack and he scored the goal. Meanwhile, not one mention of the Trent shambles.
Suhari Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 17 minutes ago, SNSUN said: See it's quite a simple solution for Gareth because Trent is a right back by trade. So what he needs to do is: 1) Move Trent to right back where he's more comfortable. 2) Move Walker to CB because you have to accommodate him somewhere and Trent now has his position. 3) Now that Walker has Stones' position, you'll have to move Stones into midfield because he's quite good there for City or something. 4) Now that you have Stones in midfield, there's no need for Rice - but as we have to accommodate him somewhere, and he's quite good going forwards, he gets moved into the 10 position. 5) With Bellingham relinquishing his space to Rice, he'll have to play as a striker because you can't leave Bellingham out. GOAT. 6) Hmm, Ok, that means Kane has to play somewhere. He's tall and slowing down, stick him at centre back alongside Walker. He can be the threat at corners with headers. 7) Guehi is dropped, because he's been too good this tournament. 8 ) Saka is left footed, so he's wasted on the right. To left back you go Mr Bukayo. 9) With the right-wing spot free, we can move Phil Foden there because he can play anywhere. 10) Trippier to left wing because apparently he's really good on the left. 11) Pickford into midfield because he's good at pinging long balls. 12) Ramsdale in goal. Job done. It's so easy. C'mon Rasmus. Stop posting on here and go and sign a player. 2
coalman Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 It seems straightforward. Drop Trent. Play Foden in the middle. Play Palmer on the left. 2
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 1 minute ago, James said: Agree. They can’t bear to criticise their mates. Kane taking a lot of flack and he scored the goal. Meanwhile, not one mention of the Trent shambles. Roy Keane said before a ball was kicked that Trent would be found out in midfield and he was spot on. 2
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 They’re “puzzled” as to why players that press every week at their clubs, don’t do so when playing for England. There’s no puzzle, it’s fucking tactical. Tactics decided by Wokegate. 3
James Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Kane taking so much stick here. He is hardly the issue. No analysis of the actual issues but what do you expect from the BBC nodding dogs? 1
bugenhagen Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 2 minutes ago, Suhari said: C'mon Rasmus. Stop posting on here and go and sign a player. Careful what you wish for... I'd say keep busy posting on here and leave the signing to others 😉 2
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: They’re “puzzled” as to why players that press every week at their clubs, don’t do so when playing for England. There’s no puzzle, it’s fucking tactical. Tactics decided by Wokegate. Exactly, we spent most of the game retreating 20 yards en masse every time Denmark got the ball, it's abject fear - you can only imagine how we'll play against the likes of Germany, Portugal, France and Spain and what they will do to us. Southgate instils fear and takes away all the things England's best players are good at.
Saint86 Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 4 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: They’re “puzzled” as to why players that press every week at their clubs, don’t do so when playing for England. There’s no puzzle, it’s fucking tactical. Tactics decided by Wokegate. Shearer in particular just can't bring himself to criicise his mate Southgate. Whereas anyone still defending southgate either suffers from serious bias or is so tactically illiterate they may as well be watching rugby
Yozzman Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 35 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Yep, he's given the Danish defenders something to think about cos Kane was offering nothing. Apart from a goal.
Southner Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Slovenia have never won at the Euros. Who have they got next?
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 The overall purpose turned out to be as expected, with overall the sort of match as well. In that, tournament manager Southgate ensures a point, effectively taking England into the next round. That's his deliverable, as it's been in the last couple of tournaments. A 2nd group game cautious, defensively structured game should come as no surprise. Underneath that, we've just seen a lot of disappointing performances, with that approach nullifying a lot of the players better qualities. TAA and Foden with the same issues as before. Foden did come in centrally occasionally. DM is an issue. Bellingham and Rice were impacted covering for TAA, while being limited by their instructions. Lots of poor passing. Lots of unforced errors. Lots of possession needlessly conceded. Individually poor.
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Here's Kane with the age old cliche 'there's no easy games in tournament football' Change the record man. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 20 June, 2024 Author Posted 20 June, 2024 2 minutes ago, Yozzman said: Apart from a goal. Offered nothing, hence why all the pundits are saying it.
adrian lord Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Missed the game due to work. Sounds like a total shitshow…
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Southgate makes a simple game difficult - that's his main attribute.
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Just now, adrian lord said: Missed the game due to work. Sounds like a total shitshow… It was worse than that.
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