ErwinK1961 Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 48 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Get a glimpse of what we might of had with Hjulmand playing. 👀
BotleySaint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 England very sloppy and seem to have regressed. Typical England then..
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Another typical England display under Southgate. Get a goal and then just retreat. We've got no control in midfield. It's so fucking obvious but he just doesn't see it. 4
Challenger Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said: Another typical England display under Southgate. Get a goal and then just retreat. We've got no control in midfield. It's so fucking obvious but he just doesn't see it. It's not going to be coming home this tournament either, is it ?
BotleySaint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Another typical England display under Southgate. Get a goal and then just retreat. We've got no control in midfield. It's so fucking obvious but he just doesn't see it. Our goal was lucky from a mistake. We have no control over this game. Individually we have great players, but Southgate has not made them a team. We look all over the place. Edited 20 June, 2024 by BotleySaint
manji Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 1-0 up and don’t push the advantage. Can’t think where I’ve heard that before 🤔 1 1
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Every Southgate team wants to defend not attack. Barmy!
AlexLaw76 Posted 20 June, 2024 Author Posted 20 June, 2024 (edited) If Southgate puts the same team out after HT, it was actually be quite amusing Edited 20 June, 2024 by AlexLaw76
BotleySaint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Southgate basically showing all the tactical nous of a P. E. teacher 3
skintsaint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Guy has all day to strike the ball. Trent sitting on the edge of the box with the centebacks. 1
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 It's all one way traffic now. We haven't mounted a serious attack since we scored.
James Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Get Trent off at half time. He isn’t a midfielder and it’s completely killing us. Positionally he is all over the place. 1
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Trent is like a fish out of water - he's our main problem. 2
Saint Gifford Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Not being negative but joint favs to win it. There is a bet of value somewhere in this competition…….
BotleySaint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, James said: Get Trent off at half time. He isn’t a midfielder and it’s completely killing us. Positionally he is all over the place. Trent and Foden off. Foden seems to be in a permanent sulk at the moment. Edited 20 June, 2024 by BotleySaint
James Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Just now, skintsaint said: Guy has all day to strike the ball. Trent sitting on the edge of the box with the centebacks. He hasn’t got a clue where to be when playing as a centre mid. He’s either right next to Rice or miles apart. It’s pretty rubbish when you consider this is international level football.
Lighthouse Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Trent is the Scouse Jermaine Wright. Got to get him in somewhere. 1
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Just now, BotleySaint said: Trent and Foden off. Foden seems to be in a permant sulk at the moment. Southgate doesn't know how to use Foden.
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 This is why I stopped watching good old England- the manager is defender by nature. So when we get a goal we shrink backwards on to our own 18 yard line and giving the opposition the freedom of 80 odd yards.
James Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Just now, Lighthouse said: Trent is the Scouse Jermaine Wright. Got to get him in somewhere. All these so called “Hollywood passes” are completely overhyped as well. Looks like Beckham in terms of technique but never hits the target.
BotleySaint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Bellinghams body language is awful. Wondering if the fame has gone to his head.
sadoldgit Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Kane wins the ball but can’t play it up to Kane because he is playing so deep!
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Just now, saintant said: Southgate doesn't know how to use Foden. And while Declan rice has to be everywhere to cover TAA that won’t change. 1
Turkish Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Just now, James said: He hasn’t got a clue where to be when playing as a centre mid. He’s either right next to Rice or miles apart. It’s pretty rubbish when you consider this is international level football. it's like playing with 10. He's not offering anything defensively, keeps giving it away going forward and has no positional sense. They've all been shit but for me he's been a waste of a shirt in both games
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Trent is the Scouse Jermaine Wright. Got to get him in somewhere. If we're talking about shoehorning, I would honestly rather see Jack Stephens out there instead of TAA.
SNSUN Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Same old shite. How can the fans see what we saw on Sunday and then the manager names the same side? Best players on paper don't always equal the best team! 1
James Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 1 minute ago, Turkish said: it's like playing with 10. He's not offering anything defensively, keeps giving it away going forward and has no positional sense. They've all been shit but for me he's been a waste of a shirt in both games It is mind blowing we are persevering with this at an International tournament. It’s the kind of thing you’d try in the first round of the League Cup against a lower league side. 4
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Currently we look one of the worst sides I've watched at this tournament. They gifted us our goal and we've done nothing other than that. Making Hjobjerg look cultured. 2
James Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 1 minute ago, saintant said: Currently we look one of the worst sides I've watched at this tournament. They gifted us our goal and we've done nothing other than that. Making Hjobjerg look cultured. Wouldn’t go that far. The midfield is so unbalanced. If we fix that then we should look a lot better. 1
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Just now, James said: Wouldn’t go that far. The midfield is so unbalanced. If we fix that then we should look a lot better. Just my opinion based on what I'm seeing. This is walking football at its worst with no passion, urgency or dynamism. Driving me mad and the BBC panel agree.
benjii Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 (edited) That's a mess from England. Second best team in this match so far. All over the place in defence. Shapeless. No intensity. "Trent" isn't a midfielder. Trippier isn't a left back. Foden all over the shop. Crap. Pretty inexcusable to be that messy. Edited 20 June, 2024 by benjii 1
Midfield_General Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 36 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: He keeps giving it away (TAA) ‘The best passer of the ball in the world’ 🤣🤣🤣 1
James Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Panel blaming Kane for the goal when Trent is just standing there with his hands in his pockets…
Turkish Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 5 minutes ago, James said: It is mind blowing we are persevering with this at an International tournament. It’s the kind of thing you’d try in the first round of the League Cup against a lower league side. what has he done to be starting in that position? I know there is a lot of hype around how brilliant he is but has he ever had a good game in that position for England? I cant remember one. 1
Bob60 Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 One word passive, and that is down to Shutgate, is it possible to sack him mid tournament.
James Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Just now, Turkish said: what has he done to be starting in that position? I know there is a lot of hype around how brilliant he is but has he ever had a good game in that position for England? I cant remember one. It’s because Liverpool play a system where he steps out into midfield and can play passes from there. How that qualifies you to start in that position for England is beyond me? I read somewhere that he started 3 games for Liverpool in centre mid…
East Kent Saint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Pretty poor from England , they don't have any control in midfield, Denmark have been given the space to come forward at will.
coalman Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: what has he done to be starting in that position? I know there is a lot of hype around how brilliant he is but has he ever had a good game in that position for England? I cant remember one. Has he had a good game there for Liverpool? This is a player considered a liability in his natural position. Yet somehow he's such a genius he can stroll around and do whatever he feels like. Given how conservative Southgate is this feels particularly mental.
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 No movement off the ball, nobody attempting to take up positions between the lines, big spaces left by Denmark but nobody bothers to move into them, giving Denmark all the time and space on the ball - if this continues we'll lose this game. Southgate needs to make massive tactical changes to get this team playing because right now we look pathetic - not sure Southgate has the nous.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 1 minute ago, Turkish said: what has he done to be starting in that position? I know there is a lot of hype around how brilliant he is but has he ever had a good game in that position for England? I cant remember one. - Ensure there are no strong contenders for the position. Who gave Phillips his gateway mars bar? Who told Henderson that the LGBT community would be fine with his move? Now you know. - Establish yourself in an attacking role, in an attacking team. The media love an attacking full back - Make the attacking team one that the media fawns over for 50 years. - Even better if managed by bestest manager ever. Who could doubt his tactical genius? - With the above in place, when you're found out in your original position, it's hard to be dropped. Suggest a move to an injury ridden part of the team.
Midfield_General Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 I’ve tried to give Southgate the benefit of the doubt, I really have, but with the bizarre forcing into the side of TAA and the way they drop back, become passive and stop pressing every single time they score, against the most average of opposition - it’s becoming very difficult to see what he’s trying to do at this point.
Turkish Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 1 minute ago, coalman said: Has he had a good game there for Liverpool? This is a player considered a liability in his natural position. Yet somehow he's such a genius he can stroll around and do whatever he feels like. Given how conservative Southgate is this feels particularly mental. he plays well against the crap teams but soon as you put him up against a decent side he gets exposed. Oh look he's coming out for the second half. jesus wept.
saintant Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 Body language not great as players come up the tunnel.
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 6 minutes ago, James said: Panel blaming Kane for the goal when Trent is just standing there with his hands in his pockets… Trent is beyond reproach- the pundits just keep giving him a free pass. He’s crap always has been in any other position than wing back.
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 June, 2024 Posted 20 June, 2024 2 minutes ago, Midfield_General said: I’ve tried to give Southgate the benefit of the doubt, I really have, but with the bizarre forcing into the side of TAA and the way they drop back, become passive and stop pressing every single time they score, against the most average of opposition - it’s becoming very difficult to see what he’s trying to do at this point. He doesn’t know - he’s a defender doing defensive things.
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