The Euro 2024 Thread

[St.Jeweller]

Needs a Mike Bassett HT team talk here.

[SNSUN]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:42, Southner said:

Just an Emo would scare Slovakia's defence more. 

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Even Emu would be better than this lot.

[adrian lord]

Passes over-hit time and time again 

No movement 

No guile 

No pace or passion

 

[Challenger]

You can imagine the WAGS excitedly sat in the stands with the " on the beach" website already up on their phones.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Passing it back and across. Fine, because it drew them out. Good pass through the midfield. Going well. Got to Foden, who could have gone out into the space. But he automatically cuts in and back it goes.

Southgate 45 mins from the end of his time. I think he was going to choose to go anyway at the end of the tournament. But to go out with a whimper is poor. And to go out because you didn't have Shaw, Maguire and Henderson covering up basic gaps is pretty grim.

[Lighthouse]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:42, SNSUN said:

Yet we still got promoted so there's hope for England yet I suppose. If only England had Adam Armstrong...

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As much as people liked to moan, we were rarely this bad. Our possession football usually yielded an average of two goals and two points per game. England this tournament have been what we were in September. The difference is this squad wasn’t thrown together two months ago after all England’s best players signed for Tajikistan.

[egg]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:39, adrian lord said:

So many key players off form.

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They're in a badly coached and managed team, with instructions to play the way we do. They're probably almost as fucked off as the fans. 

[OttawaSaint]

Ref is way too liberal with the yellow cards.

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[SNSUN]

Abysmal is the word. Effort has been there perhaps but that's it.

[Sunglasses Ron]

That was a horrible watch.

Bellingham, Foden, Kane, Saka all absolute gash (as they’ve been for most the tournament).

[Sheaf Saint]

That's up there with the worst England performances I've ever watched.

[whelk]

Remember it’s Lineker’s fault

[James]

Don’t have any faith in Southgate to change this. How he has watched the first 3 games and served up shite like this with no changes is ridiculous. It’s actually impressive that he’s made a team this talented look this bad.

[trousers]

What a load of old w***. Someone remind me how much these lazy f***ers are paid?

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[egg]

This Mainoo lad is a conundrum. Can look amazing at times, then goes missing, and often seems to be hiding rather than finding space. He's got something though. 

[SaintsBarry74]

Just to remind you the oppositions national sport is ice hockey.

Ice hockey.

[Toadhall Saint]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:46, Lighthouse said:

As much as people liked to moan, we were rarely this bad. Our possession football usually yielded an average of two goals and two points per game. England this tournament have been what we were in September. The difference is this squad wasn’t thrown together two months ago after all England’s best players signed for Tajikistan.

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There was a star that saints averaged 15 shots per game. I’m struggling to understand why England haven’t had that in total this tournament with the talent we have.

[whelk]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:50, James said:

Don’t have any faith in Southgate to change this. How he has watched the first 3 games and served up shite like this with no changes is ridiculous. It’s actually impressive that he’s made a team this talented look this bad.

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Exactly- he is the problem and seams to have no tactical nous whatsoever. 

[James]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:50, whelk said:

Remember it’s Lineker’s fault

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Imagine someone having the balls to say out loud what we can all see. Maybe Southgate should spend less time dismissing it and more time actually listening.

[trousers]

Silver lining: Southgate's last game in charge

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[Sheaf Saint]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:49, OttawaSaint said:

Ref is way too liberal with the yellow cards.

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Only with players who haven't already been booked. He's set a bar but refused to meet it for a few fouls from players already on a yellow.

[SNSUN]

Shame we can only make 5 subs really. 

If Southgate doesn't make any half time subs he's going to want to stay in Germany forever. 

[S-Clarke]

The worst of the bunch from this tournament. I honestly don't think any changes fix this, the entire team and squad is disjointed and unbalanced. The coaching is utterly horrific. No tactical understanding of the modern game from any of them. They can throw on Palmer and Gordon, but if they follow the same horrendous coaching instruction then it's just pointless.

Every single game we've played this entire calendar year has been absolutley inept. It's all broken quite deep and 'tweaks' in a single game at HT aint fixing this rabble.

[Micky]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:52, trousers said:

Silver lining: Southgate's last game in charge

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He won't get sacked, probably allowed to leave, 'mutually agreed' and all that...!

[HarvSFC]

Very reminiscent of us under Selles. A lot of pointless passing between the backline, a lot of aimless punts being soaked up by the opposition defence when it does go forward. Only real threat looks from a set-piece and nobody's working hard to put pressure on the opposition when we don't have the ball. 0 shots on target and nothing clear cut being created. Only this England team is a lot more talented than that Saints one, which makes it all the more impressive from Southgate.

[CB Fry]

Southgate resigning tomorrow won't be great for Sunak trying to land his last minute campaign messages.

[S-Clarke]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:53, Micky said:

He won't get sacked, probably allowed to leave, 'mutually agreed' and all that...!

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Lee Carsley lined up for his replacement apparently, the FA have a hard-on for promoting from within. Not sure anything changes even if Southgate goes.

[trousers]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:53, Micky said:

He won't get sacked, probably allowed to leave, 'mutually agreed' and all that...!

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Don't care how he goes, as long as he does...

[AlexLaw76]

He has changed Gallagher for Mainoo. That is it!

not changed anything else. What is he thinking!!!!

[The Kraken]

Beyond awful.

If Shaw is halfway fit he’s got to come on and give us at least a tiny bit of something down the left. Foden having a stinker but it’s all so predictable down there, Trippier is only going to cut in each time. Probably have TAA on for Walker too, get some width from the full backs.

Then take your pick for the other 3 subs.

[stknowle]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:53, S-Clarke said:

The worst of the bunch from this tournament. I honestly don't think any changes fix this, the entire team and squad is disjointed and unbalanced. The coaching is utterly horrific. No tactical understanding of the modern game from any of them. They can throw on Palmer and Gordon, but if they follow the same horrendous coaching instruction then it's just pointless.

Every single game we've played this entire calendar year has been absolutley inept. It's all broken quite deep and 'tweaks' in a single game at HT aint fixing this rabble.

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Agree, It’s just a total mess from front to back. Southgate is just feckin’ useless.

[trousers]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:55, The Kraken said:

If Shaw is halfway fit he’s got to come on

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Why on Earth is he even in the squad if he's not an option...?

[SNSUN]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:55, AlexLaw76 said:

He has changed Gallagher for Mainoo. That is it!

not changed anything else. What is he thinking!!!!

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But keeping the line up as similar as possible will work at some point... right?

[egg]

Neville saying it as it is. Apart from the 'Trent' love in, he's right. 

[Maggie May]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:50, SaintsBarry74 said:

Just to remind you the oppositions national sport is ice hockey.

Ice hockey.

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Southgate’s on the phone to Ralph Krueger right now.

[SNSUN]

Would this be a worse defeat than Iceland? I feel like it could be bearing in mind how better this team is on paper.

[whelk]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:58, egg said:

Neville saying it as it is. Apart from the 'Trent' love in, he's right. 

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At least TAA tries to make things happen. These cunts are creating nothing

[striker]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:55, AlexLaw76 said:

He has changed Gallagher for Mainoo. That is it!

not changed anything else. What is he thinking!!!!

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LOL - I thought Mainoo was one of the few bright spots. What about Bellingham, why is he out there?

[adrian lord]

You get the distinct impression that some of these players detest one another.
 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:42, SNSUN said:

Yet we still got promoted so there's hope for England yet I suppose. If only England had Adam Armstrong...

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Martin always had the goal of trying to move opponents, allowing passing opportunities at pace. We got to see the best and worst of that developing.

It doesn't seem as though Southgate really knows what the outcomes of trying that approach are, or how to get there. Trusting far too much on individuals in a system that requires teamwork to be effective. Then hampering it further by putting in players who aren't good fits to the system.

Foden/ Trippier mentioned a lot. But setting up to move opponents, and not doing it to support Saka, who is keen to get behind has been very frustrating.

[whelk]

  On 30/06/2024 at 17:00, adrian lord said:

You get the distinct impression that some of these players detest one another.
 

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They showed them arriving at the n changing room and all looked very miserable with none of them speaking t9 each other

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 30/06/2024 at 17:00, adrian lord said:

You get the distinct impression that some of these players detest one another.
 

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Quite a bit of hands in the air at each other. But they've all had their moments of doing statue imitations.

[egg]

  On 30/06/2024 at 16:59, whelk said:

At least TAA tries to make things happen. These cunts are creating nothing

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True. I'd bring him on though. Him and Palmer could be superb down the right, and TAA would be better placed than Walker to supply and support Palmer. 

[gio1saints]

  On 30/06/2024 at 17:00, adrian lord said:

You get the distinct impression that some of these players detest one another.
 

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Agree. Dont think Jude is as popular as some make out for example. 
No shots on target first half with the quality of forward players we have is poor. 
 

[whelk]

No fucking subs?!!!!

[Micky]

No subs....!!!?

[whelk]

I fucking hate Southgate

[AlexLaw76]

No changes

what a wanker!!!

[Sheaf Saint]

  On 30/06/2024 at 17:03, egg said:

True. I'd bring him on though. Him and Palmer could be superb down the right, and TAA would be better placed than Walker to supply and support Palmer. 

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Walker has been very poor. I'd happily put TAA on in his place.

[SaintsBarry74]

The last run we had in the Euros was a joke: all games at Wembley, barely any opposition fans, and a dodgy penalty gifted in the semi-final. At some point, Southgate's luck must run out.