The Premier League Thread - 2024/25

[Saint86]

Any recommendations for overseas coverage providers (that may or may not be accessible over a VPN, not in anyway suggesting i would make use of such a thing 😇)

[Tommy Mulgrew]

http://www.fawanews.com/

[Saint Matty 76]

Zaha to Leicester on loan.

Twat but a good signing. 

[S-Clarke]

The Chelsea 'zero strategy' bandwagon carries on. Someone has got to put a stop to them surely?

Now going for Felix, who has already had a stint there which was a bit of a fail. They have no idea what they're doing, and you do have to feel somewhat for their fans as it's a hollow club. It's like a mega version of the WHU Transfer tombola.

[CSA96]

6 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

The Chelsea 'zero strategy' bandwagon carries on. Someone has got to put a stop to them surely?

Now going for Felix, who has already had a stint there which was a bit of a fail. They have no idea what they're doing, and you do have to feel somewhat for their fans as it's a hollow club. It's like a mega version of the WHU Transfer tombola.

Just theorising here but are they now taking Joao Felix just because he is a Jorge Mendes client and Mendes got them Neto ahead of the likes of Arsenal and Spurs who were supposedly also interested? Now the Omorodion deal has fallen through they need someone else from the Atletico squad to balance up the fees for the Gallagher deal to do their little FFP fiddle, and Felix wants out of Atletico and supposedly enjoyed his loan spell with Chelsea (even though at the time they didn't keep him on permanently)

Edited 12 August, 2024 by CSA96

[Dark Munster]

8 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

The Chelsea 'zero strategy' bandwagon carries on. Someone has got to put a stop to them surely?

Now going for Felix, who has already had a stint there which was a bit of a fail. They have no idea what they're doing, and you do have to feel somewhat for their fans as it's a hollow club. It's like a mega version of the WHU Transfer tombola.

In the last couple of decades they've literally won every trophy imaginable, many more than once. So sorry, my sympathy for their fans can be found somewhere between shit and syphilis.

[Kristian Loekkegaard]

On 30/07/2024 at 17:55, Suhari said:

When is the decision/ruling on Leicester points reduction?

Good question. Unfortunately still undecided, I guess. 

[HarvSFC]

No more Garth Crooks team of the weeks. Not that it was actually him picking the team and writing up the articles, just something created to get clicks. It's now being associated with one of the biggest egos in the game - Troy Deeney. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn5r72k2z44o

[goodymatt]

https://www.fotmob.com/en-GB/topnews/14119-season-preview-southampton

Someone has predicted us to avoid relegation.

[goodymatt]

On 09/08/2024 at 20:36, Saint86 said:

Any recommendations for overseas coverage providers (that may or may not be accessible over a VPN, not in anyway suggesting i would make use of such a thing 😇)

I may or may not also be interested in any reliable, paid for services that people may or may not be considering using for the upcoming season.

Edited 13 August, 2024 by goodymatt

[Mr Nimbus]

If you can be bothered with the rigmarole of changing your app store over, signing up and streaming it from your phone, Peacock is a good option.

You pay $5 a month and can watch every game.

Allegedly.

[S-Clarke]

Just seen that Chelsea have given Cole Palmer a contract until 2033. 8/9 year deal?. I think those sorts of contracts are stupid.

Chelsea are breaking football, something needs to be done about how they're doing transfers and contracts.

[sfc4prem]

4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Just seen that Chelsea have given Cole Palmer a contract until 2033. 8/9 year deal?. I think those sorts of contracts are stupid.

Chelsea are breaking football, something needs to be done about how they're doing transfers and contracts.

Agreed

[AlexLaw76]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

Just seen that Chelsea have given Cole Palmer a contract until 2033. 8/9 year deal?. I think those sorts of contracts are stupid.

Chelsea are breaking football, something needs to be done about how they're doing transfers and contracts.

Why can’t they give as long of a contract as they like?

[Kristian Loekkegaard]

13 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

No more Garth Crooks team of the weeks. Not that it was actually him picking the team and writing up the articles, just something created to get clicks. It's now being associated with one of the biggest egos in the game - Troy Deeney. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn5r72k2z44o

No more Garth Crooks ("The Fish")??? He always irritated the majority of Saints fans with his PL team of the week rubbish.
Troy Deeney (currently out of jail) is more likeable - and was a great co-pundit at the championship play off final.

[suewhistle]

11 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Why can’t they give as long of a contract as they like?

They obviously have. I'll leave it to someone with more patience and energy than me to explain the implications to you.

[AlexLaw76]

31 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

They obviously have. I'll leave it to someone with more patience and energy than me to explain the implications to you.

No, go on. 

[V.Johnathan.Wilson]

5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

No, go on. 

I think its to do with the player purchase amortisation model, something to do with financial calculations for PSR based off of the initial sale divided by the contract length for each year the contract is valid. For example say Arsenal buys a player for 40 m on a four year contract, the expenses written in the book for that player purchase is 10 m spread across four financial years, Chelsea also buy a player for 40m but on an 8 year contract, they only have to write down 5 m for that player purchase expense essentially cutting their expenses in half in the accounts despite buying a player for the same price that Arsenal bought their player and that's where I assume the point of contention lies in setting their crazy long contracts.

Its also the reason why Loaning Aaron Ramsdale would be extremely difficult for us financially just by being on a wage around the 100k a week bracket, because it would be the equivalent of us paying for a 20.8m player on a four year contract and that's not taking into account potential loaning fees.

[AlexLaw76]

3 minutes ago, V.Johnathan.Wilson said:

I think its to do with the player purchase amortisation model, something to do with financial calculations for PSR based off of the initial sale divided by the contract length for each year the contract is valid. For example say Arsenal buys a player for 40 m on a four year contract, the expenses written in the book for that player purchase is 10 m spread across four financial years, Chelsea also buy a player for 40m but on an 8 year contract, they only have to write down 5 m for that player purchase expense essentially cutting their expenses in half in the accounts despite buying a player for the same price that Arsenal bought their player and that's where I assume the point of contention lies in setting their crazy long contracts.

Its also the reason why Loaning Aaron Ramsdale would be extremely difficult for us financially just by being on a wage around the 100k a week bracket, because it would be the equivalent of us paying for a 20.8m player on a four year contract and that's not taking into account potential loaning fees.

That is Ramsdale's issue if he does not want to play football, surely?

I am sure that amortisation is now limited to 5 years, regardless if you give a player an 8 year deal?

Edited 14 August, 2024 by AlexLaw76

[V.Johnathan.Wilson]

Well if nobody wants to pay 30m or his wages for those gunning for a loan, then he'll probably be forced to take a salary cut in order to get a move if he desires it. I presume that if we still want to get Ramsdale this window then this is what we are banking on.

Edited 14 August, 2024 by V.Johnathan.Wilson

[goodymatt]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5695430/2024/08/14/southampton-tactical-guide-premier-league/?source=ukfreedailyemail&campaign=711528&userId=5527189

Athletic article on our tactics ahead of the new season. Let me read it without a subscription so thought I’d share.

[Saint_Ash]

2 hours ago, V.Johnathan.Wilson said:

I think its to do with the player purchase amortisation model, something to do with financial calculations for PSR based off of the initial sale divided by the contract length for each year the contract is valid. For example say Arsenal buys a player for 40 m on a four year contract, the expenses written in the book for that player purchase is 10 m spread across four financial years, Chelsea also buy a player for 40m but on an 8 year contract, they only have to write down 5 m for that player purchase expense essentially cutting their expenses in half in the accounts despite buying a player for the same price that Arsenal bought their player and that's where I assume the point of contention lies in setting their crazy long contracts.

Its also the reason why Loaning Aaron Ramsdale would be extremely difficult for us financially just by being on a wage around the 100k a week bracket, because it would be the equivalent of us paying for a 20.8m player on a four year contract and that's not taking into account potential loaning fees.

Surely this is when the player signs for a club? Cole Palmer is signing his second contract with Chelsea after agreeing a 7 year contract last year. This is an additional two years so has nothing to do with the initial phasing of the transfer. So after the first contract this is just tying the player down for longer. 

[Ex Ringwood Saint]

 

Probably posted elsewhere but mildly amusing and ultimately true...

 

[AlexLaw76]

Still doing this nonsense

[HKsaint]

 

Tall Paul our 32, our saviour!

[goodymatt]

35 minutes ago, HKsaint said:

 

Tall Paul our 32, our saviour!

Slightly different profile to our last no.32!

[Suhari]

40 minutes ago, HKsaint said:

 

Tall Paul our 32, our saviour!

Telling that he is the only one without a posed photo.

I hope he stays and becomes a success.

 

[AlexLaw76]

Made me chuckle

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/kTmeeFeN4E6Ygo84/?mibextid=UalRPS

[saintant]

16 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Still doing this nonsense

Yeah, high time it was dropped.

[23rdSaint]

A low bar, but this is the most informed league prediction I've seen so far: https://www.betsson.com/en/blog/the-lars-resort/pl-preview-1-the-relegation-battle/

[Dman]

18 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Still doing this nonsense

It was notable when they done this shit last time that Smallbone wouldn't. Good on the lad, I wonder if the pressure of the PL will lead him to do it this time round... 

[Saint86]

Not sure if this link will work, but interesting if that much is going on in the background - the article gives previous few details.

https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/article/why-this-could-be-the-most-absurd-premier-league-season-yet-xrff5q50p

https://archive.ph/KDBJS

Edited 16 August, 2024 by Saint86

[Holmes_and_Watson]

I think banishment is that they can only play football in car parks outside football stadiums. 🙂

[Whitey Grandad]

32 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I think banishment is that they can only play football in car parks outside football stadiums. 🙂

Behind closed gates?

It seems only fair.

[hypochondriac]

Watched some of the Oxford Coventry game and the Fulham United game. The first game was about a million times better. I'm not sure why any neutral woukd want to watch the prem trash given the choice. 

[kjurwi]

Watching Ipswich pre match commentary, Kieran McKenna looks like Nigel Adkins without glasses. 

[OttawaSaint]

Liverpool missed a few sitters so far...

[OttawaSaint]

But not this time. 1-0!

[Saint_clark]

On 14/08/2024 at 16:41, AlexLaw76 said:

Still doing this nonsense

That'll solve it.

[OttawaSaint]

Salah, 2-0. New record for scoring in season openers.

[LeBizzier69]

Liam Delap’s looked half decent, the little he’s had of the ball.

[OttawaSaint]

6 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

Liam Delap’s looked half decent, the little he’s had of the ball.

Replaced by Szmodics.

[Turkish]

The wankfest has started already. “Trents” pass, Sakas goal. Saw them both on MOTD this morning having heard the reports about how unbelievable both things were I was very underwhelmed. Good pass yes, good goal but was hearing it was the sort of stuff only they could, unreal etc FFS

[Saint NL]

 These are the goal animations for each team when they score in televised games.

Ours looks pretty good, hopefully it won't be long before we can see it 👍

 

[Give it to Ron]

Interesting chat here about Leicester and possible 2 x6 point deductions

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZGe3C834c/

[Sheaf Saint]

Everton down to the bare bones already...

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/czjyv9jpky3o

[sfc4prem]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Everton down to the bare bones already...

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/czjyv9jpky3o

I'll get the miniature violin out for you, Sean.

In all seriousness, Everton can fuck right off down the drain. A club that's been spending way above its due for far too long.

[JRM]

9 hours ago, Give it to Ron said:

Interesting chat here about Leicester and possible 2 x6 point deductions

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZGe3C834c/

Is this going to drag on all season? 

[JRM]

I found this interesting explaining some of the spending restrictions 

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24537013.premier-league-profit-sustainability-works-means/

[OttawaSaint]

BHA 2-1 Man U. With a last second headed winner.

United had a goal disallowed when Fernandes' open goal bound shot was ajudged to have hit an offside Zirkzee's knee just before the line. Zirkzee was sliding in and unable to get out of the way.