Saint Garrett Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 Seems like it's pretty much a done deal and deserves a thread of his own... Another city youth player, but I remember him from the u18s cup final at St Marys and he looked unbelievably dominant in the middle of the pitch. Big, Strong, and looks a proper player. Reminds me of Rodri. Spending £11m on an unproven player also suggests we aren't skint. Would certainly like to see a few out the door and links to some slightly more experienced players though. Obligatory YT video below... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 Looks a sensible replacement for Lavia. Him, Downes and 1 other (preferably a little older with more experience) would be 3 solid CM/DM options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 City sent a few players down to the Championship last season, who did well: Muric, Steffen, Harwood-Bellis, both Doyle's and McAtee, so hopefully the Championship is a bit more forgiving on this policy than the Premier League was. Also, a potential cost of £15m. That's surely dependant on promotion, but that's up there with the record Championship transfers of Ruben Neves and Britt Assombalonga, both also £15m. So, a big outlay for a Championship club. Again, it's down to hope that Wilcox knows he's a future star and has orchestrated a good deal for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 37 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Seems like it's pretty much a done deal and deserves a thread of his own... Another city youth player, but I remember him from the u18s cup final at St Marys and he looked unbelievably dominant in the middle of the pitch. Big, Strong, and looks a proper player. Reminds me of Rodri. Spending £11m on an unproven player also suggests we aren't skint. Would certainly like to see a few out the door and links to some slightly more experienced players though. Obligatory YT video below... He was immense in that U18 final and played like he was a couple of years older than the others on the pitch. I'm pretty excited by this signing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 20 minutes ago, The Cat said: He was immense in that U18 final and played like he was a couple of years older than the others on the pitch. I'm pretty excited by this signing. If we sign Fonte then he will also be able to play like he's a couple of years older than the others on the pitch. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 Spending £11million on an unproven player doesn't prove we're not skint, it just proves we're still going to gamble with our season. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 Very highly rated by Northern Ireland fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 Was always on my Man City shopping list and I'm pleased to see it might happnen. I know it's lazy using players who have been linked, but Charles (plus Downes & Grimes) would be a pretty handy triangle of options covering an awful lot of Russell Martin tick-boxes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 1 hour ago, positivepete said: Very highly rated by Northern Ireland fans Indeed. Although our results have been poor since he's come into the team (and since Michael O'Neill returned), he's looked very accomplished in DM and has stood out in a team with some experienced lower half PL and Championship players around him. Similar to Lavia, he doesn't panic and is very good at creating space when under pressure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 (edited) Wrong thread Edited 7 July, 2023 by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 Impressive at youth level. Looks pretty big and powerful in the video, which will help make an immediate impression at senior level. If he can replicate that dominance at senior level, we will have a proper player on our hands. It will be interesting to see how Winks goes at Leicester over the next couple of seasons, as they are similar transfer fees (and obviously signed this summer in the championship), all be it Winks may be on bigger wages. If he is going straight into the side, let's hope he can shone like Lavia, all be it at a lower level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribtickler Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 This lad reminds me of a sturdy wooden door, no one is getting past that thing without a chainsaw. Welcomed signing with Lavia off to graze on the wild pastures of Premier football. That's all i will say on the matter. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ribtickler said: This lad reminds me of a sturdy wooden door, no one is getting past that thing without a chainsaw. Welcomed signing with Lavia off to graze on the wild pastures of Premier football. That's all i will say on the matter. That seems quite a heavy handed approach to wooden doors - I just open them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 5 hours ago, positivepete said: Very highly rated by Northern Ireland fans Bazunu is highly rated by Republic of Ireland fans. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 Very excited about this signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 11 minutes ago, Turkish said: Bazunu is highly rated by Republic of Ireland fans. Man of the match in last game for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 53 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: Very excited about this signing. Insane signing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 7 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: Seems like it's pretty much a done deal and deserves a thread of his own... Another city youth player, but I remember him from the u18s cup final at St Marys and he looked unbelievably dominant in the middle of the pitch. Big, Strong, and looks a proper player. Reminds me of Rodri. Spending £11m on an unproven player also suggests we aren't skint. Would certainly like to see a few out the door and links to some slightly more experienced players though. Obligatory YT video below... If he's any good why are City letting him leave? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 2 hours ago, Ribtickler said: This lad reminds me of a sturdy wooden door, no one is getting past that thing without a chainsaw. Welcomed signing with Lavia off to graze on the wild pastures of Premier football. That's all i will say on the matter. Am I the only one who hasn't a clue what you're talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Box Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 6 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: Am I the only one who hasn't a clue what you're talking about? Nope😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 9 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: If he's any good why are City letting him leave? Ridiculous comment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 26 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Ridiculous comment. Follows the line of the many other ridiculous comments from Charlie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 42 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: If he's any good why are City letting him leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Ridiculous comment. It was surely satire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 2 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: If he's any good why are City letting him leave? Always a concern, not being good enough for the best team in Europe doesn't mean he wouldn't be good enough for us. If there is no pathway, they can't just hoard him. The buy back clause means he will be there should they need him. Also, they let Lavia leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 This is a gamble, an educated gamble but a clear gamble. Lavia worked last year, Edozie and Bazunu didn't. It's a sign that despite prior mixed results, the board are keeping faith with their own ideas. So, either they are not learning, or they are not learning and believe the coaching clusterf*ck of last season masked their own genius. I am cautiously..... not optimistic. Well, i'm cautiously nervous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball boy Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 Some gambles on the city academy will make it as we’ve seen. I think this one will make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 As long as his vision is better than his great uncle Ray... 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 2 hours ago, Colinjb said: This is a gamble, an educated gamble but a clear gamble. Lavia worked last year, Edozie and Bazunu didn't. It's a sign that despite prior mixed results, the board are keeping faith with their own ideas. So, either they are not learning, or they are not learning and believe the coaching clusterf*ck of last season masked their own genius. I am cautiously..... not optimistic. Well, i'm cautiously nervous. Or its a sign that Jason Wilcox has recruited a player that he knows extremely well and thinks will be well suited to our needs. A player who is well versed in the style we will be adopting and has senior Intl experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dusic said: Or its a sign that Jason Wilcox has recruited a player that he knows extremely well and thinks will be well suited to our needs. A player who is well versed in the style we will be adopting and has senior Intl experience. I respect your optimism. May it not be misplaced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brissysaint Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 4 hours ago, Colinjb said: Lavia worked last year, Edozie and Bazunu didn't. Edozie clearly showed talent in his stints just lacked the finishing touch, which our whole squad did tbf so I’m not going to judge him on that shit season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 7 hours ago, OttawaSaint said: As long as his vision is better than his great uncle Ray... and as good as his other uncle John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 2 hours ago, rooney said: and as good as his other uncle John. And as good as his great grandfather, Alf https://www.saintsplayers.co.uk/player/alf-charles/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 On 07/07/2023 at 11:39, Saint_clark said: Spending £11million on an unproven player doesn't prove we're not skint, it just proves we're still going to gamble with our season. We have plenty of money. Charles isn’t a gamble. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 23 minutes ago, manji said: We have plenty of money. Charles isn’t a gamble. THE GREATEST ERA IN OUR HISTORY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Brissysaint said: Edozie clearly showed talent in his stints just lacked the finishing touch, which our whole squad did tbf so I’m not going to judge him on that shit season. Despite being labelled a Sports Republic fan boy ,last season was a clusterfuck and again Joe Shields really did mess things up.Not entirely on him but a major factor. Slovak has already mentioned in an interview that he didn’t get involved enough in decisions but he won’t let that happen again. I might be a saddo but I’ve watched a lot of his TV interviews he has a commanding presence.Not to be fucked with and massively successful in every business venture so far.There’s a load of shit going down in Serbia and he’s seriously taking on the government. im not trying to be clever I just have had a lot of time on my hands. Temporary health reasons. As for Rasmus his job is ( as it was supposed to be last season) is building up SRs club rosta. Bohemians next apparently, which is only going to benefit Saints. Again Dragan has money put aside for the other clubs he won’t be spending money meant for Saints on them. let’s be honest any Saints fan has literally been traumatised by last season. We have majorly shuffled the board. I’m hugely impressed with Wilcox and Martin in particular . Be patient just because we’ve signed some youngsters doesn’t mean that is our only transfer policy. Im remain confident we will lose our first game ( it’s tradition) and their will be a complete meltdown on here but it’s a long old season and it will make a nice change not expecting to lose our next game all the time. it’s a new Dawn ( yeah OK I said that last season ) enjoy it. Edited 8 July, 2023 by manji 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 I like solidity of his build and looks like a proper athlete with it. Means Lavia move imminent I reckon. Wilcox will know him well, add Flynn Downes to the mix next week hopefully and CM department improving. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 On 08/07/2023 at 10:27, Fitzhugh Fella said: And as good as his great grandfather, Alf https://www.saintsplayers.co.uk/player/alf-charles/ Lets hope he's got better vision than his great uncle, Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 Bros Shea is a baller he will cook in the championship 🥘🧑🍳⚽️⚽️⚽️ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 On 08/07/2023 at 10:27, Fitzhugh Fella said: And as good as his great grandfather, Alf https://www.saintsplayers.co.uk/player/alf-charles/ Or Great Uncle Bob, the part time Docker and Car dealer!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Bros Shea is a baller he will cook in the championship 🥘🧑🍳⚽️⚽️⚽️ I wish I was a little bit taller. I wish I was a baller. I wish I had a girl - if I did I would call her. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 Looks like a decent acquisition and for that money I would imagine he’s been told he’ll be a first team starter meaning Lavia is definitely off. However, from the UT clips he’s not as good as Lavia and that in itself gives me a little cause for concern. Unless other positions are strengthened we will once again find the overall squad quality diluted a little more and that’s something we cannot afford to happen if promotion is a serious aspiration. Last seasons squad was a mess irrespective of the league we were in - what’s not certain is how much of that was due to such poor and inconsistent team management/coaching. I’m hoping a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 On 07/07/2023 at 18:33, Charlie Wayman said: If he's any good why are City letting him leave? IF Lavia was any good why did they let him leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 19 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Looks like a decent acquisition and for that money I would imagine he’s been told he’ll be a first team starter meaning Lavia is definitely off. However, from the UT clips he’s not as good as Lavia and that in itself gives me a little cause for concern. Unless other positions are strengthened we will once again find the overall squad quality diluted a little more and that’s something we cannot afford to happen if promotion is a serious aspiration. Last seasons squad was a mess irrespective of the league we were in - what’s not certain is how much of that was due to such poor and inconsistent team management/coaching. I’m hoping a lot. Were you seriously expecting us to sell Lavia and then replace him with someone just as good? I think you'll be disappointed if that's your attitude this summer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 Well yes and no. Clearly the squad last season was awful - bloated with mediocrity, unbalanced and devoid of quality, with the exception of Lavia perhaps but even he had some bad games. My point is that the squad needs a major overhaul and extra quality brought in to be in with a shout of success, rather than any further dilution. Sure, it will be difficult to find a direct Lavia replacement and this guy might be the best we can get, but that just serves to emphasise the need for major overhaul and quality improvement without which this season will be a lot more difficult than some seem to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Were you seriously expecting us to sell Lavia and then replace him with someone just as good? I think you'll be disappointed if that's your attitude this summer. Not expecting to replace Lavia and JWP with someone just as good, but would be nice to think we can replace some of the other dross with better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 6 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Not expecting to replace Lavia and JWP with someone just as good, but would be nice to think we can replace some of the other dross with better Well possibly with some of them but the players that top clubs want are not going to be replaced with better. I thought that was obvious but it seems not to some. The key is to get a team together that is maybe better than the sum of its parts that can win promotion. That's it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 July, 2023 Share Posted 10 July, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Well yes and no. Clearly the squad last season was awful - bloated with mediocrity, unbalanced and devoid of quality, with the exception of Lavia perhaps but even he had some bad games. My point is that the squad needs a major overhaul and extra quality brought in to be in with a shout of success, rather than any further dilution. Sure, it will be difficult to find a direct Lavia replacement and this guy might be the best we can get, but that just serves to emphasise the need for major overhaul and quality improvement without which this season will be a lot more difficult than some seem to think. You said yes and no but clearly it's unrealistic to expect us to sign someone as good as Lavia in our current position. Where we are currently should be an improvement on last year given that as it stands we have Tino and Tella and an extra year of development for the likes of Bazunu, Edozie etc. We also have a manager whose intention is to play a style which has had some success in the championship in the past and who isn't Nathan Jones and we currently have some players with prior championship experience in Armstrong, Adams and Tella. Now obviously much of that is going to change but we will clearly bring in some decent names to replace the ones who leave and that should have an effect of refreshing the squad. I'm optimistic despite the awfulness of last year. Edited 10 July, 2023 by hypochondriac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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