FarehamSaintJames Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 34 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Can't think any more than 1 game at a time. Beat Cardiff and see where we are. This entirely. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Looks good though. Sky remembered we exist too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 8 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Looks good though. Sky remembered we exist too. We shouldn't really be anywhere near the top 3 teams... the fact we are is just testement to how much they messed up. Getting beat by Ipswich when we were so dominant really grates on me looking at the table. We'd be 3rd now with a game in hand and probably more likely favourites for the run in with the momentum. Edited April 17 by SaintsFan86 . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, SaintsFan86 said: We shouldn't really be anywhere near the top 3 teams... the fact we are is just paramount to how much they messed up. Getting beat by Ipswich when we were so dominant really grates on me looking at the table. We'd be 3rd now with a game in hand and probably more likely favourites for the run in with the momentum. Four very good teams all messing up a different times of the season. We did our howlers in Sept and Feb, they are doing theirs now. I think you meant testement rather than parmount 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, SaintsFan86 said: We shouldn't really be anywhere near the top 3 teams... the fact we are is just paramount to how much they messed up. Getting beat by Ipswich when we were so dominant really grates on me looking at the table. We'd be 3rd now with a game in hand and probably more likely favourites for the run in with the momentum. Actually we should. In any normal season being in the high eighties or low nineties usually gets you automatic promotion. We're on 84 with four games left, so certainly in that ball park. The other teams, apart from Leicester, haven't really messed up. They've just had peaks and troughs in form across the season, much like we have. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Reading the Leicester, Ipswich and Leeds forums, a lot of fans are doubting their own team finishing top 2. We’re still outsiders and it’s possible our goal difference could count against us but we definitely seem to have shaken the top 3 teams’ fans up with the recent wins. Even if we fall short we’ll be in good form heading into the play-offs. Beat Cardiff and we go into the Leicester game with serious confidence, I just hope Martin plays his best team… yesterdays. What a League this season though. To think first place going into the last day could potentially finish 4th. Glad we’ve been a part of it even if we’ve had a couple of bad spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) Crazy that everyone plays twice before Ipswich next kick a ball. Edited April 17 by Sunglasses Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 It's quite a simple equation now - win our 4 remaining games and, unless Ipswich win their 3 games, we are promoted automatically (Ipswich could equal our 96 points with 2 wins and a draw but if we get 4 wins it is highly probable our goal difference would be superior). It's obviously a very tough ask but confidence should be flowing after last night's performance and the other 3 teams seem to be extremely nervy right now. One game at a time so on to Cardiff and we all hope another massive effort from the team will result in a victory. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Reading the Leicester, Ipswich and Leeds forums, a lot of fans are doubting their own team finishing top 2. We’re still outsiders and it’s possible our goal difference could count against us but we definitely seem to have shaken the top 3 teams’ fans up with the recent wins. Even if we fall short we’ll be in good form heading into the play-offs. Beat Cardiff and we go into the Leicester game with serious confidence, I just hope Martin plays his best team… yesterdays. What a League this season though. To think first place going into the last day could potentially finish 4th. Glad we’ve been a part of it even if we’ve had a couple of bad spells. It's highly unlikely that goal difference will count against us. If we gain enough points to overhaul Ipswich then it is almost certain we'll have overtaken their goal difference because we'll have won our final 4 games. If we drop any points we won't be going up unless via the play-offs. I'm fairly relaxed about the goal difference issue as I can't see it being a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 that bank holiday weekend. Middlesbourghs late equaliser, Ipswich late winner, we'd be on 87 points with Ipswich and Leeds now with a game in hand on them both. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: that bank holiday weekend. Middlesbourghs late equaliser, Ipswich late winner, we'd be on 87 points with Ipswich and Leeds now with a game in hand on them both. “Wenn das Wörtchen wenn nicht wär, wär mein Vater Millionär“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 If we win our last 4 we'll be up, I'm pretty sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm waldron Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 21 minutes ago, saintant said: It's highly unlikely that goal difference will count against us. If we gain enough points to overhaul Ipswich then it is almost certain we'll have overtaken their goal difference because we'll have won our final 4 games. If we drop any points we won't be going up unless via the play-offs. I'm fairly relaxed about the goal difference issue as I can't see it being a factor. I can't believe (after the Easter games) that we've managed to get back in with a chance of top 2, but I'm not so confident that goal difference is unlikely to be an issue. Ipswich are quite capable of - say - putting 5 past Huddersfield on the last day of the season as they seem to bounce back from adversity quite well. Where would that scenario leave us? Maybe still needing to win asll 4 and needing both Leicester and Leeds to stumble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinR Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 20 minutes ago, Turkish said: that bank holiday weekend. Middlesbourghs late equaliser, Ipswich late winner, we'd be on 87 points with Ipswich and Leeds now with a game in hand on them both. Many have spoken about the Ipswich winner...I'm most annoyed about the Blackburn game. The players and manager had all but given up and the performance and result reflected that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 12/04/2024 at 14:08, swannymere said: No Chance. Still correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 It’s actually a plus now that we still have to play Leicester and Leeds….! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 4 hours ago, SW5 SAINT said: It’s actually a plus now that we still have to play Leicester and Leeds….! Agree. Two incredibly tough games but if we could somehow beat them both we're reducing the ultimate number of points they can amass. They'll be equally nervous and will be concerned by the fact that we are currently in better form than they are. Edited April 17 by saintant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 i can imagine a scenario now where we go into the Leeds game top only needing to avoid defeat to go up only for us to lose and come fourth 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, Sunglasses Ron said: Crazy that everyone plays twice before Ipswich next kick a ball. Think we play 3 as Ipswich late game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm waldron Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 21 minutes ago, Turkish said: i can imagine a scenario now where we go into the Leeds game top only needing to avoid defeat to go up only for us to lose and come fourth Is there a scenario where both Leeds and us only need a point each to guarantee automatic promotion? If so it would make last nights Preston team look like the hardest working side in European football.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 5 minutes ago, malcolm waldron said: Is there a scenario where both Leeds and us only need a point each to guarantee automatic promotion? If so it would make last nights Preston team look like the hardest working side in European football.... Very much in the style of the 1982 World Cup Group Stage stitch up. To be fair we could aimlessly knock it about not threatening their goal for an hour and the authorities would not suspect a thing. Edited April 17 by CB Fry 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, Turkish said: that bank holiday weekend. Middlesbourghs late equaliser, Ipswich late winner, we'd be on 87 points with Ipswich and Leeds now with a game in hand on them both. If only we hadn't lost any game this season we would have been promoted weeks ago. We just have to accept that in a 46 match season there will be disappointing matches. All teams can come out with "if onlys" at this stage of the season. eg Ipswich lost to Cardiff despite being in the lead after 95 minutes. Leeds lost last week to Blackburn . Leicester lost to relegation threatened QPR and Plymouth. Lets look forward with no regtets. . L 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, Tamesaint said: If only we hadn't lost any game this season we would have been promoted weeks ago. We just have to accept that in a 46 match season there will be disappointing matches. All teams can come out with "if onlys" at this stage of the season. eg Ipswich lost to Cardiff despite being in the lead after 95 minutes. Leeds lost last week to Blackburn . Leicester lost to relegation threatened QPR and Plymouth. Lets look forward with no regtets. . L conceding in the 7th minute of injury to lose against your promotion rivals after leader though........... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 If we win on Saturday, we could have the chance to go top of Tuesday if Leicester and Leeds do not take full points over the weekend and Monday. Ipswich game is off, so we could be top by a point with Ipswich having the game in hand. All those say if we had done this and if we had done that, all the other teams at the top will be saying the same. We had late winners at Millwall and Hull, and at home to Huddersfield, Sunderland and just at the weekend against Watford. It is all part of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I remember thinking that a point at Ipswich didn’t matter and it was win or nothing, funny how quickly it changes 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: I remember thinking that a point at Ipswich didn’t matter and it was win or nothing, funny how quickly it changes I was thinking the Blackburn game did not matter, so I was not bothered about the result as it was all about the playoffs. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 hours ago, malcolm waldron said: Is there a scenario where both Leeds and us only need a point each to guarantee automatic promotion? If so it would make last nights Preston team look like the hardest working side in European football.... We would need; - Leeds to win against QPR and Boro - putting them on 93 points - Us to beat Cardiff, Leicester and Stoke, putting us on 93 points - Leicester to draw with WBA, lose to us and draw with Preston - putting them on 90 points - Ipswich losing one and drawing one of Coventry and Hull - putting them on 90 points Never going to happen! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 5 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: We would need; - Leeds to win against QPR and Boro - putting them on 93 points - Us to beat Cardiff, Leicester and Stoke, putting us on 93 points - Leicester to draw with WBA, lose to us and draw with Preston - putting them on 90 points - Ipswich losing one and drawing one of Coventry and Hull - putting them on 90 points Never going to happen! Imagine it though, At the end Both sets of fans singing in unison " we are premier league " would be some celebration in Leeds that day/evening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 7 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: “Wenn das Wörtchen wenn nicht wär, wär mein Vater Millionär“ Ich stimme dir zu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Went to leeds forum, they are already looking on the bright side that they are in the play offs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 7 hours ago, Tamesaint said: If only we hadn't lost any game this season we would have been promoted weeks ago. We just have to accept that in a 46 match season there will be disappointing matches. All teams can come out with "if onlys" at this stage of the season. eg Ipswich lost to Cardiff despite being in the lead after 95 minutes. Leeds lost last week to Blackburn . Leicester lost to relegation threatened QPR and Plymouth. Lets look forward with no regtets. . L Absolutely this. If only we'd have kept Lavia or JWP. If we'd won against Rotherham and Millwall and Hull... let's stop with the what ifs! Edited April 17 by sfc4prem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) . Edited April 17 by sfc4prem Posted in error! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Simon Jordan is tipping us for automatic promotion now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chownie20 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 After all the "if we win all our games we will go up" narrative, I hadnt quite twigged that that isnt the case, is it? If we win all our matches, and Ipswich/Leicester dont drop any points (Except Leicester losing to us) we are still a point shy? Or have I got that wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 33 minutes ago, chownie20 said: After all the "if we win all our games we will go up" narrative, I hadnt quite twigged that that isnt the case, is it? If we win all our matches, and Ipswich/Leicester dont drop any points (Except Leicester losing to us) we are still a point shy? Or have I got that wrong? Correct. Ipswich 98 Leicester 97 Saints 96 Leeds 93 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Not holding out for the draw at Ipswich could cost us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chownie20 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Ipswich have two very tough away games coming up and are not exactly in top form. Albeit they will have had a 2 week break.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 55 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said: Correct. Ipswich 98 Leicester 97 Saints 96 Leeds 93 Yeah it still seems very unlikely for us to get automatic, need too much to go our way still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 5 minutes ago, JRM said: Yeah it still seems very unlikely for us to get automatic, need too much to go our way still And for us to not fuck it up, but..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 29 minutes ago, chownie20 said: Ipswich have two very tough away games coming up and are not exactly in top form. Albeit they will have had a 2 week break.... A 2 week break isn’t always a good idea as it can break momentum and focus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 21 hours ago, malcolm waldron said: Is there a scenario where both Leeds and us only need a point each to guarantee automatic promotion? If so it would make last nights Preston team look like the hardest working side in European football.... I remember a season in the 90s (I think when Graham Souness was our manager) when we played at Villa on the last day. We needed a point to stay up and Villa needed a point to guarantee a European spot. Everyone said they would play out a stale 0-0 but of course we still managed to lose it 1-0 and only stayed up because other results went our way. Edited April 18 by mikec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 17 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said: We would need; - Leeds to win against QPR and Boro - putting them on 93 points - Us to beat Cardiff, Leicester and Stoke, putting us on 93 points - Leicester to draw with WBA, lose to us and draw with Preston - putting them on 90 points - Ipswich losing one and drawing one of Coventry and Hull - putting them on 90 points Never going to happen! I wouldn’t say never considering how results have gone recently. It would be absolutely hilarious. I'm still expecting play offs so anything else is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Sorry if it's old news. facebook_1713430508751.mp4 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Best case outcome would mean promoted 29 April (2 days after Stoke game, with Leicester failing to win at Preston) champions the next day - with Ipswich failing to win at Coventry Saints receive a sporting round of applause from all sides of the stadium as they present the trophy to the crowd in advance of the Leeds away fixture. COYR 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 3 hours ago, Stud mark of doom said: Best case outcome would mean promoted 29 April (2 days after Stoke game, with Leicester failing to win at Preston) champions the next day - with Ipswich failing to win at Coventry Saints receive a sporting round of applause from all sides of the stadium as they present the trophy to the crowd in advance of the Leeds away fixture. COYR Like fuck would the fans do that. 🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 12 hours ago, chownie20 said: After all the "if we win all our games we will go up" narrative, I hadnt quite twigged that that isnt the case, is it? If we win all our matches, and Ipswich/Leicester dont drop any points (Except Leicester losing to us) we are still a point shy? Or have I got that wrong? You are perfectly correct but it also works the other way. We could draw a couple of matches yet still get automatically promoted if Leicester and Leeds continue to drop points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 5 hours ago, Stud mark of doom said: Best case outcome would mean promoted 29 April (2 days after Stoke game, with Leicester failing to win at Preston) champions the next day - with Ipswich failing to win at Coventry Saints receive a sporting round of applause from all sides of the stadium as they present the trophy to the crowd in advance of the Leeds away fixture. COYR Guard of honour from the Leeds players as we run out, surely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve green Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 47 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Guard of honour from the Leeds players as we run out, surely. Oh god, please, please please. I'll chop me knob off for that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 9 hours ago, Master Bates said: Sorry if it's old news. facebook_1713430508751.mp4 I’ve watched this 57,000 times this week already and Ron’s face still makes me laugh every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Well that result surely stops the "what ifs". Prep for the playoffs. WBA be afraid. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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