OttawaSaint Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 FT 4-2. But now a 20 day break. Ludicrous! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 FT. Bang average for most of the game, punctured with moments that were good. another 2 goals shipped against what was a terrible side on the day. For the love of god, please can the idiot we have as a manager drop the shoe-horning of Stephens in the side. We won largely because our players are much better than theirs. I am sure we will hear Martin (again) saying something was his fault. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 All over. A win. Strange performance, should have been out of sight, suddenly crumbled but managed to pull it back. Oh well, three points and a few goals. Can't complain but need to play better against other teams, Sunderland were poor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Decent day is Hull hold on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Saints win. Ipswich lose and Leicester draw. Nearly a perfect afternoon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 A much needed win, but are we fully happy with that? Effectively ends 2-0 and at home to a very poor Sunderland. Don’t blame the players - all down to the Manager and his selection. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Just now, Saint NL said: All over. A win. Strange performance, should have been out of sight, suddenly crumbled but managed to pull it back. Oh well, three points and a few goals. Can't complain but need to play better against other teams, Sunderland were poor. Sunderland may have been poor but They still managed to score two cracking goals against us, we can't buy a clean sheet at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Leicester draw, great day all round really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNewForest Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 7 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: FT. Bang average for most of the game, punctured with moments that were good. another 2 goals shipped against what was a terrible side on the day. For the love of god, please can the idiot we have as a manager drop the shoe-horning of Stephens in the side. We won largely because our players are much better than theirs. I am sure we will hear Martin (again) saying something was his fault. Shoehorning Steohens into the side ... we looked wobbly before he came back in. Bree isn't fully fit. Kwp is injured. Who would you pick instead? But again, blaming Stephens being shoehorned in is the popular opinion right now. Aside from that, a wins a win. I'm not fussed how we get it. UTFS. Edited March 9 by SaintNewForest 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 We win another high scoring game and gain ground on both Ipswich and Leicester. I still think we can get top 2 IF he spends the next 20 days working out that we need to revert to the solid defence we had before he started fucking about with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 8 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: FT. Bang average for most of the game, punctured with moments that were good. another 2 goals shipped against what was a terrible side on the day. For the love of god, please can the idiot we have as a manager drop the shoe-horning of Stephens in the side. We won largely because our players are much better than theirs. I am sure we will hear Martin (again) saying something was his fault. We won. What more do you want 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, SaintNewForest said: Shoehorning Steohens into the side ... we looked wobbly before he came back in. Bree isn't fully fit. Kwp is injured. Who would you pick instead? But again, blaming Stephens being shoehorned in is the popular opinion right now. If Bree isn’t fully fit Stephens at right back. He’s played there before he’s not great but can do a job, you don’t take your best centre back out of position and make two changes when you only need to make one. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 I’ll take the 3 points by fuck me do we make things hard for ourselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Great set of results today! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Just now, Totton Saint said: We won. What more do you want Not to concede 5 goals in 2 games against two utter shite teams? 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said: Shoehorning Steohens into the side ... we looked wobbly before he came back in. Bree isn't fully fit. Kwp is injured. Who would you pick instead? But again, blaming Stephens being shoehorned in is the popular opinion right now. The point is, if you are going to ‘shoehorn’ Stephen’s into the team, then not at the expense of breaking up our best CB pairing. He is better than Manning, so put him there. Edited March 9 by Gingeletiss 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, stknowle said: We win another high scoring game and gain ground on both Ipswich and Leicester. I still think we can get top 2 IF he spends the next 20 days working out that we need to revert to the solid defence we had before he started fucking about with it. Surely it won't take 20 days to work out that round pegs fit into round holes whereas square pegs fit into square holes. This is a conundrum that 18 month old babies can solve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) Positives - Rothwell added a lot when he came on. - Manning was better than normal. - Adams did well against a big CB. Negatives - More missed chances, especially from AA who's finishing is largely poor. - This Stephens love affair needs to end now. Play the players in their natural positions. - Sulemena was a collosal waste of money. Edited March 9 by Harry_SFC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 5 minutes ago, washsaint said: I think you are in a minority on this one. How e paid 23 million for this guy is beyond belief. He has shown no improvement since he joined us and his decision making is non-existent. Gets the ball and runs and typically ends up giving it away. I just don't see how he is a better option than Dibling/SAA. I don't really worry what the `majority' think. I like him. I like watching him beat men for fun. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Given our game in hand, and matches against Ipswich and Leeds to come, we still technically have automatic promotion within our control... We just might need to beat Leeds 7-0 on the final day of the season to make up goal difference. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 15 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: FT. Bang average for most of the game, punctured with moments that were good. another 2 goals shipped against what was a terrible side on the day. For the love of god, please can the idiot we have as a manager drop the shoe-horning of Stephens in the side. We won largely because our players are much better than theirs. I am sure we will hear Martin (again) saying something was his fault. This guy 😂😂😂 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Just now, saintant said: Surely it won't take 20 days to work out that round pegs fit into round holes whereas square pegs fit into square holes. This is a conundrum that 18 month old babies can solve. You’d like to think so but he hasn’t worked it out yet so…… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Good to go into a 20 day break with the 3 points. We dominated the first half and were fine in the first 15 minutes of the second. All the usual hallmarks of the season. High possession, a decent number of chances and not as many goals as you’d think we’d get from them. Thy got 2 goals from their first 3 shots. We contributed quite a bit to both goals, in the way their player did for our first. Our decision making while playing MartinBall wobbled. We looked for passes under pressure when there were better options. We looked to hold when we should clear, and dispossessed (particularly for their second). Martin will be focused on tightening that up. Especially as it’s been happening for a little while. The first thing people will look at is pushing THB out to CB so that Stephens can play centrally. Martin’s looking for something a little more complicated there. THB having to move in when Stephens goes forward to support the midfield more directly. Manning, tucking in on the other side also gives us numbers in midfield to try and create from. No KWP so Stephens provides a body and support, while Smallbone is released more freely, knowing he also has Downes today. Both goals came after the Subs. Smallbone was a miss (everywhere again today), and Brooks is our Fraser, game changing, stand in. We did miss both of them going off. Martin was looking to use Sule’s pace, with deeper balls to him. He certainly got more of it today, but the outcomes aren’t there yet. On at least one occasion he waited for support. On another he though he had to wait for support but didn’t have to. On others he just made the wrong choice or it was sometimes blocked. We’re really looking to combine Sule’s pace with the finishing that Tella had at the start of the season. Pacey, but direct as well. He might have a lot to do to look convincing in other areas, but when the ball falls centrally just outside the box, Rothwell is the guy to dig us out a win. Lots of good play after we got over their second. Another hallmark of the team is that we will work to the end of the match, and once we pushed them back again, they didn’t have anything else in the tank. On our side AA was still putting in a real shift. Overall, high possession and dominance apart from a spell where we helped to give them 2 goals and a little wobble around then. But you can see where we went wrong. It’s not as though we couldn’t have done anything to stop them. Lots of energy in the opening 30 odd minutes, where once again we don’t put as many as we should away. But we are creating. Our passing was better today too, with lots of instinctive, well drilled movement. Downes is a massive plus to have back. A lot of the usual frustrations for Martin, but he’ll have plenty of pluses to more than balance that out today. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 12 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said: Shoehorning Steohens into the side ... we looked wobbly before he came back in. Bree isn't fully fit. Kwp is injured. Who would you pick instead? But again, blaming Stephens being shoehorned in is the popular opinion right now. Aside from that, a wins a win. I'm not fussed how we get it. UTFS. You should be concentrating on your warm down Jack. Not on the phone. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, stknowle said: You’d like to think so but he hasn’t worked it out yet so…… He'll probably be focusing on a potential shootout in the playoff final and all training will be centered around his 5 kickers, Manning, Stephens, Sulemana, Smallbone, and Bree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 9 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said: Shoehorning Steohens into the side ... we looked wobbly before he came back in. Bree isn't fully fit. Kwp is injured. Who would you pick instead? But again, blaming Stephens being shoehorned in is the popular opinion right now. Aside from that, a wins a win. I'm not fussed how we get it. UTFS. Fuck me does a narrative grow legs in here. Bristol City took us to the cleaners a few weeks ago. Centre back pairing that night? Bednarek and THB. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 12 minutes ago, Turkish said: If Bree isn’t fully fit Stephens at right back. He’s played there before he’s not great but can do a job, you don’t take your best centre back out of position and make two changes when you only need to make one. You have a point, but Stephens is really not good at right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 All I can say is that, if we do end up in the play-offs, it won't be for the feint-hearted thanks to the way we let in so many soft goals. These will be huge games and it will be a big gamble to rely on us outscoring whoever we come up against either in the semi-final or the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway saint Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 5 goals conceded against two poor sides tells us its own story. we’re not beating the better sides if we continue like this. I’m losing a bit of faith in RM. We win these games because we have much better players and the team is clearly less than the sum of its parts. I wish he’d ditch the aimless passing crap in our own half but he’s not going to 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Automatics now just about technically back in our own hands, albeit it needs wins away against Ipswich, Leeds and Leicester, as well as a hefty (but not impossible) swing in goal difference with Leeds to take it out of their hands. EDIT: As NewYorkSaint had already pointed out above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 3 minutes ago, saintant said: All I can say is that, if we do end up in the play-offs, it won't be for the feint-hearted thanks to the way we let in so many soft goals. These will be huge games and it will be a big gamble to rely on us outscoring whoever we come up against either in the semi-final or the final. It sure won't, and if teams press us, I worry whether we have it in us to win those games, but the goals today weren't terribly soft (compare them to our first) and I am not sure they were even down to our style of overplaying and passing in dangerous areas to keep possession at al costs. Manning and Sulemena possibly could have hoofed for the first, not sure who or what to blame for the second? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Conceding 5 against two of the worst teams this league has to offer is extremely concerning. No need to move THB to right back, it’s just ridiculous. Stephens can play RB if he must, but we literally have Bree sat on the bench. Mind blowing. Winning was the least we could do today, they were absolutely woeful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Chez said: You have a point, but Stephens is really not good at right back. Neither is THB and he is a far superior Centre back 2 changes in a back 4 is completely stupid. Edited March 9 by Turkish 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 6 minutes ago, Galway saint said: 5 goals conceded against two poor sides tells us its own story. we’re not beating the better sides if we continue like this. I’m losing a bit of faith in RM. We win these games because we have much better players and the team is clearly less than the sum of its parts. I wish he’d ditch the aimless passing crap in our own half but he’s not going to Agree, I worry how we will fair against the four or five teams around us in the run in and play offs, but he/we ain't changing now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, Turkish said: Neither is THB and he is a far superior Centre back he's a little more mobile...that's perhaps RMs thinking. We need KWP back ASAP and to tighten up forwhen we play the better sides. The break we have is timely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 27 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: FT. Bang average for most of the game, punctured with moments that were good. another 2 goals shipped against what was a terrible side on the day. For the love of god, please can the idiot we have as a manager drop the shoe-horning of Stephens in the side. We won largely because our players are much better than theirs. I am sure we will hear Martin (again) saying something was his fault. Don't agree,, Stephens added much needed strength to the side. He was one of the better players. Saints are better with him in the side imo. THB had a very iffy day and yet he escapes criticism. Saints were fine until the substitutions. Taking Smallbone off was an error. He had a good game and the team lost its shape when he went off. I thought Adams was off his game today, he needs to hold the ball up and struggled with that today. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, macca155 said: Don't agree,, Stephens added much needed strength to the side. He was one of the better players. Saints are better with him in the side imo. THB had a very iffy day and yet he escapes criticism. Saints were fine until the substitutions. Taking Smallbone off was an error. He had a good game and the team lost its shape when he went off. I thought Adams was off his game today, he needs to hold the ball up and struggled with that today. THB had an iffy day? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Just now, stknowle said: THB had an iffy day? Really? Yes, he played the majority of the game at RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 This place never fails to deliver, tremendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4 minutes ago, macca155 said: Don't agree,, Stephens added much needed strength to the side. He was one of the better players. Saints are better with him in the side imo. THB had a very iffy day and yet he escapes criticism. Saints were fine until the substitutions. Taking Smallbone off was an error. He had a good game and the team lost its shape when he went off. I thought Adams was off his game today, he needs to hold the ball up and struggled with that today. The facts say otherwise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 I enjoyed that. Sure, there were errors but scoring 8 goals in 2 games and getting 6 points is great as far as I'm concerned. One of my favourite things is when everyone starts getting all annoyed about us passing around the back and then we score a goal because we were doing it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, The Cat said: One of my least favourite things is when everyone starts getting all annoyed about us passing around the back and then they score a goal because we were doing it needlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4 minutes ago, macca155 said: Don't agree,, Stephens added much needed strength to the side. He was one of the better players. Saints are better with him in the side imo. THB had a very iffy day and yet he escapes criticism. Saints were fine until the substitutions. Taking Smallbone off was an error. He had a good game and the team lost its shape when he went off. I thought Adams was off his game today, he needs to hold the ball up and struggled with that today. We were cruising at half time. If it ain't broke.... Must admit, also thought Stephens was ok today, but surely THB and Bednarek have to be the centre back pairing. Downes certainly makes a difference. Missing KWP and Wee man and frankly anything but a win today would have been a travesty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 6 minutes ago, stknowle said: THB had an iffy day? Really? I thought he put in some great tackles. He's never a right back though. It's crazy that he's being asked to play there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 32 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: A much needed win, but are we fully happy with that? Effectively ends 2-0 and at home to a very poor Sunderland. Don’t blame the players - all down to the Manager and his selection. Agree no fault of the players who are following Martin’s self-serving instructions. He’s more interested in a reputation for possession football than allowing his players the freedom to show their technical quality. Too often playing back into their own half to keep the ball instead of playing forward to the strikers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 26 minutes ago, Chez said: Fuck me does a narrative grow legs in here. Bristol City took us to the cleaners a few weeks ago. Centre back pairing that night? Bednarek and THB. He’s started the last 4 games at centre back we’ve conceded 11 goals. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4-2 , 4-2 , 4-2 , 4-2 , etc etc 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 It will be interesting once KWP is fit again. He won’t drop THB will he, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, LGTL said: It will be interesting once KWP is fit again. He won’t drop THB will he, surely? It wouldn’t surprise me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: He’s started the last 4 games at centre back we’ve conceded 11 goals. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence In fairness, one of those goals was against 10 men - unfair advantage to the other team etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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