Saints 1-2 Hull - Match Thread

[Winnersaint]

Just now, obelisk said:

I thought the plan was to win the game in hand. Oh well.

All part of a cunning plan to lull Leeds and Ipswich into a false sense of security

 

 

[Colinjb]

We clearly prefer to be chasing the top two positions. That must be it.

[Mr X]

Utterly outplayed from the first kick 

[SNSUN]

3 minutes ago, Saint Billy said:

Brooks and Fraser on the bench, pure madness.

This. We also miss Downes and Bree and have done since they both got injured. Even Che has been a miss.

[Sheaf Saint]

Can't even get a lucky break from a loose ball cos Hull are getting to every one of them.

[Saint NL]

Rothwell having an absolute 'mare

[Saint86]

Rothwell again in midfield ffs.

Just too many changes and tactically awful with no anchor in midfield. So disjointed and easy to play through. Martin needs to make serious changes second half.

[Chez]

should have been 3.  If we get something from this game, that miss will be crucial.

[adrian lord]

Rothwell needs to go off. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

That was a decent passing move, with Bedders doing well to wait for the right angles. Quite a long pass from deep, and Rothwell loses possession. So it's Hull again.

Booked KWP a frustrated figure.

[igsey]

Hull have had 11 shots. We're very lucky only 4 of them have been on target.

[Scoobysaint]

It almost needs five changes at half time they’ve been so bad. Could be Manning, Rothwell, Mara, Smallbone, Arma, Edozie. Take your pick. We need Brooks and Fraser on ASAP.

[Galway saint]

We seem to have no control at all in the game - from WBA to this is inexplicable. 

 

[bpsaint]

This is worse than the first half against Hudds, and that was bad enough. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Edozie gets a corner. But he's taking on 3 or 4 players.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Assume everyone still wants Leeds to win on Friday?

[Chez]

Just now, Saint86 said:

Rothwell again in midfield ffs.

Just too many changes and tactically awful with no anchor in midfield. So disjointed and easy to play through. Martin needs to make serious changes second half.

I did wonder if he might make changes after half an hour as we looked so poor.

[Sheaf Saint]

Just now, adrian lord said:

Rothwell needs to go off. 

Never mind goung off. He needs to go back to Bournemouth if this is the kind of performance he's going to put in regularly.

[gio1saints]

My bloody unlucky saints sweatshirt! 😡This is worse than Huddersfield. Worse than Gillingham. Worst first half seen at SMS all season.Fans v angry. Ugly atmosphere . 

[Saint86]

1 minute ago, Scoobysaint said:

It almost needs five changes at half time they’ve been so bad. Could be Manning, Rothwell, Mara, Smallbone, Arma, Edozie. Take your pick. We need Brooks and Fraser on ASAP.

It needed two at 30min. and it was obvious. One of smallbone/rothwell off for an actual anchor man, and manning...

[Winnersaint]

 Rothwell doesn't do it for me. Either Stu or him not both. That said. I think we’re running on empty. 

[Saint86]

Easiest away 45 Hull have had all season i reckon.

[obelisk]

90 seconds of the half left and the ball gets played back FFS!

[adrian lord]

Radical surgery needed at half time Russell.

[Micky]

1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Assume everyone still wants Leeds to win on Friday?

Don't think it makes a blind bit of difference to be honest.  We are playoff bound, both Leeds and Ipswich will be in front of us. 

[Saint86]

1 minute ago, Winnersaint said:

 Rothwell doesn't do it for me. Either Stu or him not both. That said. I think we’re running on empty. 

Hull have had a day less rest than us...

Edited 20 February, 2024 by Saint86

[Sheaf Saint]

2 minutes ago, Scoobysaint said:

It almost needs five changes at half time they’ve been so bad. Could be Manning, Rothwell, Mara, Smallbone, Arma, Edozie. Take your pick. We need Brooks and Fraser on ASAP.

Can't really blame the front players. They're feeding off scraps from the utterly dreadful midfield.

[Block41 Saint]

HT. Being soundly beaten and Martin is being outclassed. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Bedders giving Manning a few harsh words after another given away.

We at least got an attack there. Stu doing well. AA couldn;t get it through to Mara, who was a littel wider anyway.

[SNSUN]

It's not like we won't get play offs... I just really wanted autos as a guarantee of going up. Leeds are relentless, Leicester have the points and even Ipswich aren't going away. Play offs though is such a lottery and we've shown that we can be got at. It's not over yet but this last week has been an eye opener.

[CB Fry]

For a team who are supposedly going to be winning the league in a few weeks time, we've been absolutely fucking done over here.

[sfc4prem]

Oh.

[Saint86]

Absolute dog turd.

[badgerx16]

Are the HT boos justified tonight ?

 

We look like a team threatened by relegation rather than one pushing for promotion.

[Saint NL]

Shocking half.

Leeds must be laughing, we look so weak defensively and offer nothing going forward. Shambles so far, major changes needed in the second half.

[verlaine1979]

Rothwell and Manning abject, and the rest not much better.

[obelisk]

Getting overrun in midfield. Not for the first time.

[ally_uk]

Crap 1st half the amount of times we gave the ball away..... 

Midfield easily bypassed./ powerpuff...

2nd half Fraser and Brooks on from the get go.... 

[Farmer Saint]

Anyone think we might be missing Downes? 

[Disco Stu]

Well and truly outplayed. Where's Aribo? Where's Brooks? And why have we reverted back to the system that failed against Bristol? Without Downes, Stephens providing extra cover without the ball seemed the next best thing. We're getting ripped to shreds again tonight. We'll be playing this lot in the playoffs and I'm not looking forward to it.

Edited 20 February, 2024 by Disco Stu

[saintant]

That was nothing short of embarrassing and it's all on RM's stupid midfield selection. He should have seen it was totally wrong and changed it after 20 minutes but now the damage is done. With zero bite or cover in midfield we have made them look like prime Man City while we are left chasing shadows. Don't think there's any way back into this because they are no mugs and have us well sussed.

[Sheaf Saint]

Just now, badgerx16 said:

Are the HT boos justified tonight ?

For that performance, yes. That was worse than Huddersfield.

What on Earth does RM see in Rothwell? He's having an absolute shocker- surely he's got to sub him off at HT. 

[LGTL]

Good god. Don’t understand why the fuck Martin is waiting until half time to sort that out, should have been done after 10 minutes. Rothwell and Smallbone are a disaster pair, A Armstrong and Mara pointless, and the less said about Manning, the better. 

Brooks has to start in this team and so does Adams. And when Downes is injured, Aribo. 

Edited 20 February, 2024 by LGTL

[Saint86]

6 minutes ago, Chez said:

I did wonder if he might make changes after half an hour as we looked so poor.

Ditto chez. As far as i can tell he did absolutely nothing before they eventually scored No.2. Really worrying. Maybe he thought we could hold on till half time and he could give them a proper reset, but i was also thinking we absolutely had to drag off manning for stelphens and rothwell/smallbone for Charles at 30min... was so obvious.

Edited 20 February, 2024 by Saint86

[saintquin]

Not going well then!

[obelisk]

Ok we might make the play-offs but this sort of stuff won't see Saints in the Wembley final.

[Convict Colony]

Feel sorry for rothwell, he's more of a S Armstrong not a Downes but is trying to do a job and the risks that he and Stu take up the pitch dont work when your running at your own goal.

S Armtrong/Smallbone and Rothwell is 3 attack minded players playing at defending, they are basically doing a manning.

Too many players not being "brave" and passing it back to gav all the time, bascially its ping pong and doesnt get to the forwards at all.

KWP the 1 man outball we have.

Hull playing very well

[badgerx16]

1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

Anyone think we might be missing Downes? 

No team should be so dependent on one player.

[coalman]

Rothwell scored two cracking goals the other week, but.... 

[saintant]

18 minutes ago, adrian lord said:

No energy.

It's not that it's down to team selection today.